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ammad2006

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28 May 2009 at 23:22 - 1

In the olden days of Guild Wars prestige armor used to mean something. It meant you were rich and skilled enough to farm the harder Prophecies areas. But, now, because of power creep, farming has become easier and easier. This came apparent to me when I taught my 6 year old sister how to smite in a 600 team. She was addicted to it for about 2 hours, got me around 80k,(child labor

) and then got bored.

If a 6 year old can make 80k in 2 hours, this truly shows have worthless elite armor is. I am proposing a new type of armor. It can be as expensive as obsidian but the defying factor is that it requires skill to get it. Like if you had to pass some "tests" based on your profession. IE a ranger would have to prove their interupting skills and maybe a warrior his knocklocking. There could also be a predetermined build to prevent gimmicks. The armor would have to be hard to get and flashy, to show that you are not just mindless farmer, you are also skilled.

Now I know people will say that it's not fair and everyone can't be skilled enough. That is the whole point. You don't need the armor. It is to prove you ARE skilled enough. What do you guys think?

MarkusParkus

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29 May 2009 at 00:02 - 2

Well I Still Think Prestige Armor Is Well 'Elite'.... Maybe Thats Cuz I Dont Have Much Money Lol!

And Im Pretty Sure Even If There Was A New Kind Of Armor With Your Suggested 'Tests' So Get It There Would Be Suitable Builds On Pvx Wiki Within About 5 Mins Of Launch, So It Wouldnt Be That Hard !

If You Want Proper Elite Go Obsidian

Lol
Just My 2Cents...
Markus.

jackhawkins13

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29 May 2009 at 00:50 - 3

i think this is an amazing idea! i remember when playing this game had a point and pvp was fun and people had to do things with parties of other people. now its just "hey ill go solo every enimy in GW at one time and make infinity money!" and i RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing hate pvx wiki. i hate all the wiki builds in pvp. sorry i strayed from the topic its just my ranting. but yeah i definately think there should be a new armor like you mentioned

MithranArkanere

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29 May 2009 at 01:57 - 4

Letting anyone use your account breaks the rules, also, the game must not be plaid by children under 13 years old. Please report yourself to NCSoft Support.

Now, there are several places like the ones you ask:
- Gamer title. Shows skills in areas that have fixed builds.
- Dwarven Brawling
- Polymock. AAAAll about interrupting skills.

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

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29 May 2009 at 02:00 - 5

meh.

People would manipulate matches to get it.

/notsigned

HawkofStorms

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29 May 2009 at 02:09 - 6

Isn't this kinda what we already have?
To get Elite Canthan armor, you have to beat Factions, etc etc etc

No test would be unfarmable.

Plus, armor was never really elite. Guys who go "LOL I'm rich and you aren't noob" never proved anything.

Masmar

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29 May 2009 at 02:20 - 7

Itll still be easy to get,
And do you have to put capitals at the start of every word Markus? makes painful reading

gameshoes3003

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

29 May 2009 at 02:39 - 8

I'm not sure your idea will work.
There are builds that can easily achieve what you have posted.
Plus with things for like the interrupt suggestion, some people lag enough to where they can't do it.
This essentially cuts off people who can't spend lots of money on a computer or internet, you've slashed many players in the face.
I can relate to this because I have nearly a constant 250 ms ping on Guild Wars (networking issue). It's incredibly hard to interrupt with a quarter second delay, and one of my friends who loves this game has the crappiest computer known to man, he has to deal with frame by frame playing (can't interrupt, KD, or chain with now can you?) but he still likes it.
Now why would anybody want to support an idea that totally isolates many players? That's just not cool.
/notsigned

MagmaRed

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29 May 2009 at 05:05 - 9

First, I don't like the idea, if you want to know why, read what the others have already said.

Second, it is WAY too late to be asking for something like this. Anet has MINIMAL resources on GW1, and armor takes a LOT of time from the devs to get done correctly. Even if they added new armor (which they won't) they would need to program your 'test' and test it for bugs.

Armor is a PERSONAL goal. People who want armor to impress OTHER people are wasting their time. Should be getting armor that impresses yourself, and forget what other people think about it.

rick1027

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

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29 May 2009 at 06:39 - 10

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagmaRed

First, I don't like the idea, if you want to know why, read what the others have already said.

Second, it is WAY too late to be asking for something like this. Anet has MINIMAL resources on GW1, and armor takes a LOT of time from the devs to get done correctly. Even if they added new armor (which they won't) they would need to program your 'test' and test it for bugs.

Armor is a PERSONAL goal. People who want armor to impress OTHER people are wasting their time. Should be getting armor that impresses yourself, and forget what other people think about it.

well said and ive always did exactly what you said i only buy armor i like the look of it being its elite or isnt no need for any new armor

Marty Silverblade

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Join Date: Jun 2006

29 May 2009 at 06:43 - 11

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagmaRed

Armor is a PERSONAL goal. People who want armor to impress OTHER people are wasting their time. Should be getting armor that impresses yourself, and forget what other people think about it.

I agree with this statement. It's like titles, if I ever bother to vanquish Joko's Domain (never tried it) and so get Legendary Vanquisher, I'll be really satisfied. However, I couldn't care less what other people would think if I was to show it, especially since there isn't a way to tell whether I actually got it myself or paid for it.

Sub-Zero

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30 May 2009 at 04:21 - 12

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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

Letting anyone use your account breaks the rules, also, the game must not be plaid by children under 13 years old. Please report yourself to NCSoft Support.

Now, there are several places like the ones you ask:
- Gamer title. Shows skills in areas that have fixed builds.
- Dwarven Brawling
- Polymock. AAAAll about interrupting skills.

are u being serious O.o

Pleikki

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30 May 2009 at 10:08 - 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkusParkus

And Im Pretty Sure Even If There Was A New Kind Of Armor With Your Suggested 'Tests' So Get It There Would Be Suitable Builds On Pvx Wiki Within About 5 Mins Of Launch, So It Wouldnt Be That Hard !

Yeah but what if those tests would actually recuire skill. builds doesnt have anything to do with skill. by skill its right timing, teamplay, focusing etc. not pushing skills 1,2 & 3

Chocobo1

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30 May 2009 at 11:39 - 14

Heh, It's not like elite armor means anything to me anymore. I've seen enough copycat monks with Ecto gloves and obsidian armor that I want to see in my lifetime. (Isn't that the most dull combination ever? Jesus talk about a waste of money <_<;).

I like the idea, but theres too many constraints, and elitism is something is something we could use less off.

/notsigned sorry : (.

ShadowsRequiem

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30 May 2009 at 16:30 - 15

the games 4 years old... what do you want?

you SHOULD have fow by now

Raccoon

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30 May 2009 at 16:43 - 16

Before I'd want Anet to even consider new armor, they need to fix all the glitches with the current armors.

/notsigned

lorazcyk

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30 May 2009 at 16:48 - 17

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Originally Posted by ShadowsRequiem

the games 4 years old... what do you want?

you SHOULD have fow by now

Hmm.. I've played the game for 2 hours a day for 4 years, and trough my FoW/UW adventures, I have had a total of 1 ecto and 1 shard. I got so tired of looking at them alone in my storage, that I just sold them to the Mat trader.

I'm no where near getting FoW. I really just want the Rit teapot headpiece. :P I can live with the rest of the cheap armor. But I can't really afford the tea pot anyway.

That said, I don't mind the armor being expensive as it is. It makes getting FoW armor an interesting journey.

crazybanshee

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30 May 2009 at 23:44 - 18

Meh, I disagree. Prestige armor is still prestige. Even if you buy all the mats, you still have to GO to fow and get the armor, which is sorta like what you're saying, and if they're gonna add new armor quests and stuff the armor would have to be REALLY cool (not another boring reskin) but if they're gonna spend the time doing that, there's more important things to do.

glacialphoenix

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31 May 2009 at 02:24 - 19

Quote:

The armor would have to be hard to get and flashy, to show that you are not just mindless farmer, you are also skilled.

Now I know people will say that it's not fair and everyone can't be skilled enough. That is the whole point. You don't need the armor. It is to prove you ARE skilled enough. What do you guys think?

...I can just imagine people demanding that you display x set of armour just like you display LB in DoA or the various GWEN titles in the appropriate areas. I personally think it'd kill the whole point of armour being just for looks. I know GWEN armour requires you to get r5 in the relevant title, but at least you can achieve that just by playing through the game, if armour's all you're going for.

Quote:

the games 4 years old... what do you want?

you SHOULD have fow by now

Assuming you want it - I don't like FOW armour.

BadgerznPie

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Mo/

31 May 2009 at 02:33 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagmaRed

Armor is a PERSONAL goal. People who want armor to impress OTHER people are wasting their time. Should be getting armor that impresses yourself, and forget what other people think about it.

QFT

I have a friend on Guild Wars who recently got chaos gloves on a male warrior. He told me to be completely honest about what I thought. I said that it just didn't match, but that it was just my opinion. He just couldn't believe that I didn't think it looked good just because it was expensive

I personally can afford elite armors but I have 1k sets on some characters just because I like the look better.

Highlander Of Alba

Wilds Pathfinder

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31 May 2009 at 10:41 - 21

Personaly as with others...Its what you like

Dont know how often i hear this in towns..whats the best armour and a flood of replies come

I always come back with,,,there no best max is max and then add tell me the differece between 5k and 150k as stats are the same

The elitism of some guys lol as i have 3 accnts and can tell you I choose what fits my char whether it be a 5k one or whatever.

Ok I agree with the point some guys farm to obtain gloves obi ect...

It makes not one bit of difference to me or would say mosst guys..its just epeen of some who think to get is a big deal its not..its only in the eyes of the beholder it is

Goddess Of Defense

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2009

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31 May 2009 at 13:24 - 22

/notsigned

Sorry, I just would rather to see them update current prestige armours, and add a few new ones that can just be farmed for; I.E: Luxon & Kurzick Dervish/Paragon armours; maybe another 120ecto&120shard armour type but only gotten from Underworld.

Sai Rith

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31 May 2009 at 18:17 - 23

Many people ebayed back then as well.

headlesshobbs

Krytan Explorer

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01 Jun 2009 at 12:08 - 24

Elite armor used to have value till an update changed everything and people started farming 100k+++. I'd like to see a new type of armor be worth more, but to make any sense of it, it has to be beside the point of money and "earned" by real players... NOT farmers.

refer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2009

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01 Jun 2009 at 14:11 - 25

You want something that is really elite? Make an armor that can only be obtained by vanquishing an area without any healing/stances/enchants and you can't wear any armor while doing it. And you must kill a foe every 1 minute or you have to start over. And if you die once you have to start over as well.

Also an armor where if you ever equipped Shadow Form or Ray of Judgement or made an imbagon on your account (you or heros, even if you didn't use any of them) you can't get it, you have to make a new account.

ShadowsRequiem

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01 Jun 2009 at 15:44 - 26

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Originally Posted by lorazcyk

Hmm.. I've played the game for 2 hours a day for 4 years, and trough my FoW/UW adventures, I have had a total of 1 ecto and 1 shard. I got so tired of looking at them alone in my storage, that I just sold them to the Mat trader.

I'm no where near getting FoW. I really just want the Rit teapot headpiece. :P I can live with the rest of the cheap armor. But I can't really afford the tea pot anyway.

That said, I don't mind the armor being expensive as it is. It makes getting FoW armor an interesting journey.

2 hours a day over four years? and you're saying you can't get anything done? LOL wow you could easily get a set of fow if you wanted... instead of "saying jeez I never get anything."
Just because you can't farm the mats in 1 day doesnt mean its impossible to get... you atleast have to put some kind of work in. Its not going to just fall into your lap.

draxynnic

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02 Jun 2009 at 05:08 - 27

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowsRequiem

2 hours a day over four years? and you're saying you can't get anything done? LOL wow you could easily get a set of fow if you wanted... instead of "saying jeez I never get anything."
Just because you can't farm the mats in 1 day doesnt mean its impossible to get... you atleast have to put some kind of work in. Its not going to just fall into your lap.

Agreed. At the point where I decided I was going to seriously go for FoW armour, it took me two-three months of fairly casual play to actually get there (made the commitment right after the Canthan new Year, got it on the weekend of the April update). I started off with about half the wealth required to get it, but that extrapolates to about half a year.

And that's without going into FoW or the UW directly (don't like permasins and the guild isn't exactly the most active in the game nowadays) except for the trip in which I actually acquired the armour (in which I then proceeded to clear it).

My average daily playtime during those months was probably less than two hours.

You just have to keep down your expenses in the meantime, engage in reasonably lucrative activities (I swear I heard a "What? YOU AGAIN?" when the Zaishen bounty for the Darknesses rolled around...), set reasonable "buy under" price limits for shards and ectos and drop into the trading districts occasionally to see if anyone is selling for under those prices.

ac0okiemonst3r

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02 Jun 2009 at 16:59 - 28

i still think custom insignias(designs on the armor, not insignias as they are now) would be a great idea. formatted the same way as designing a cape. and there should be certain design unlocks for either a title track or type of armor (elite, faction, title-based, 1k, etc.)

genofreek

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02 Jun 2009 at 18:34 - 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by ac0okiemonst3r

i still think custom insignias(designs on the armor, not insignias as they are now) would be a great idea. formatted the same way as designing a cape. and there should be certain design unlocks for either a title track or type of armor (elite, faction, title-based, 1k, etc.)

The days of "prestige" armor are pretty much behind us. I agree with the rest of the thread about picking the armor that looks right for you, elite or not... but this is an interesting idea. A few pieces of male armor (derv norn, warrior platemail) have goofy-looking animal faces on the chest. I wouldn't mind being able to put a different design on instead.