Zaishen coins for stylist credits?

headlesshobbs

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

Making as poll here, don't close if topic was already discussed.

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

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An in-game way of obtaining makeover credits would be the biggest possible push towards playing certain content.
While more storage is good - I've just yesterday discovered a different way of dealing with the crap I have.
I trash stuff.


So /sweet baby Jesus singed!

Kerwyn Nasilan

Kerwyn Nasilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2007

WHERE DO YOU THINK

W/

It sadly will not happen and if it does it will be so expensive coin wise that it would most likely be easier to go make $10 and then buy a make over credit.

but /signed at a reasonable price.

Icy The Mage

Icy The Mage

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Canada

E/

/Signed for a reasonable value

I'd much rather have a makeover on some of my characters than this stupid heavy-equipment pack, but if it's something obscene like 100 gold coins then whatever...

Neo Atomisk

Neo Atomisk

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2008

State College, Pennsylvania, United States

Zealots of Shiverpeak [ZoS]

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/notsigned, we already ask a-net for so much, and you still want to eat away at their funds?

Eragon Zarroc

Eragon Zarroc

Atra estern?? ono thelduin

Join Date: Jan 2008

Madness Incarnate

[Duo]

W/P

if u don't like how ur character looks, pay to have it look different. otherwise, deal with the way it looks because u are the one that made it look that way in the first place.

alluring athena

alluring athena

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2009

The choice to either pay $10
or
trade X Gold coins

easily implemented

/signed

Gift3d

Gift3d

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Las Vegas

Enraged Whiny Carebears [oR]

W/E

yes.

lol @ people saying no with no real reason.

Shursh

Shursh

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2008

KaVa

N/

/signed

but in the interest of ANET still being able to make money, have the option to buy makeover with gold coins, somewhere around 20-25 gold coins for makeover.

that way people are still tempted to just pay the 10 bucks, but have the option to get it "for free".

lewis91

lewis91

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2008

Wales

Order of the Azurelight[OA]

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I'd like a second way to obtain a makeover yes. But also i don't mind anet reaping in money for other projects.

If they'd give a few screenshots or something to show where all this money, time and effort is going. Then id be content with just paying.

MarkusParkus

MarkusParkus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2008

Plymouth, Uk

[TPoN]

A/P

/ Signed For Zcoins

Think It Would Be A Good Idea For Those Players With A Lack Of RL Funds....

But Then Anet Could / Should Go The Route Of Lettin Us Pay4 Stylist With In-Game Gold Or Maybe Even A Series Of Elite Content Missions!
Markus

EinherjarMx

EinherjarMx

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Mexico

La Legion del Dragon [LD]

E/

yeah, make it happen for like 150 gold zcoins

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gift3d View Post
yes.

lol @ people saying no with no real reason.
LOL at people saying "yes" with no thought of how Anet will make money.

I propose letting people BUY zcoins with real money, and then expanding zcoins to purchase menagerie unlocks and stylist unlocks.

That way Anet will still get money (I will spend REAL money for Large Equipment pack), but there will still be a way to get stuff WITHOUT spending real money as well.

Win win.

master of puppets

master of puppets

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2009

UK (home of wet n' windy)

E/Mo

/signed sounds like good idea for ppl who dont wanna spend rl cash for in- game stuff

Enon

Enon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Taking a dip at Nundu Bay

All though I do find this a great idea, I still have to vote no. People already spend money on their makeover packages. It wouldn't be fair if other people would get them for free*.

*Free meaning you don't need real life money.

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enon View Post
All though I do find this a great idea, I still have to vote no. People already spend money on their makeover packages. It wouldn't be fair if other people would get them for free*.

*Free meaning you don't need real life money.
They were able to get rid of the fug a few weeks sooner than everyone else.
Also - there is no reason to remove it from the store.

Add a makeover option for some 20 gold coins. Given the price - I can see a lot of people just paying for it, instead of farming their asses off.

SimplyAmazing

SimplyAmazing

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

Cho's Estate

Agents Of Indecision

Rt/

/signed

but for a large amount so that having to buy is still a viable option.
also for Name changes!

everyone says anets needs to make money, they make TONS of money, do you realize how many people play gw? and bought all campaigns, bmp, char slots, pvp packs, etc etc etc, not too mention all of the other games anet makes. they have money. i understand it costs money to maintain, but the prices of these are pretty high, name change 15$?... 5$ max should be the price. i've personally spent over 300$ in the game, as i have more than one account, which lots of people have multiple or alternate accounts, AND i've bought a name change and make over already. The money is not a problem, but zdailies are getting old quick, can only have so many heavy packs.......fireworks, and leet tomes? nothanx.

Trylo

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

[Here] | CKOD

E/R

is this even realistic? the makeover credits are linked to your account, not to a character. they are not inventory items. that makes me think that it would be impossible to trade coins for them, but i do not know how easily implemented this would be in a computer programming sense.

Antares Ascending

Antares Ascending

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2008

E/

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I love 'polls' like this....its called a push poll. Make the second choise something like NO..ANet/GW needs to be profitable to continue. No profit = no GW. We have already gotten more than the initial purchase promised.

Not signed!

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

Do we really want anet to establish equivalence between cash and grind? That's called skill unlock pa... I mean, RMT.

king swift

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

Kamadan AD1

Zealots Of Shiverpeak [ZoS]

D/A

/signed

Anet is raping us with this micro charges

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

Makeovers should have costed ingame gold - an awesome gold sink, but ZCoins would be perfectly fine aswell.

If a makeover costed like 5 gold coins and extreme 20 or 25 gold coins then people wouldn't stop paying $$$ for them if they aleady did pay for something like that.

/signed, more options is good here. Even if it was a limited offer of 1 per account or something.

jimme

jimme

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Netherlands

Mo/

Yes please. I can't even buy stuff from the NCstore / in-game store.
/signed

ajc2123

ajc2123

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

North of the wall

Me/

Biased poll is biased

/Request poll change
/notsigned due to people already buying them.
/laughs at it never happening even with over 9000 votes for yes

Baden Mac Corvin

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2007

The Iron Horde (IRN)

N/Me

You people need to notice that arena net is in the gaming industry to make money like every other type of business. Like what was said by many of the developers on the live team this is something that takes some doing to accomplish. We have been given more than our original investment and arena net needs to make money to fuel their other projects and keep guild wars alive. so in other words for those of you who whine and complain to make it clear /not signed

ajc2123

ajc2123

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

North of the wall

Me/

btw, the ingame option to do makeovers is called buy new armor.

Solved.

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Baden Mac Corvin View Post
You people need to notice that arena net is in the gaming industry to make money like every other type of business. Like what was said by many of the developers on the live team this is something that takes some doing to accomplish. We have been given more than our original investment and arena net needs to make money to fuel their other projects and keep guild wars alive. so in other words for those of you who whine and complain to make it clear /not signed
So you are telling me you'd rather pay for something you didn't have to?

ajc2123

ajc2123

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

North of the wall

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by upier View Post
So you are telling me you'd rather pay for something you didn't have to?
No, he's saying we already got so much that we SHOULD have paid for and didn't.

Makeovers are a luxury and should be treated as such. Name changes could be a way out of getting banned, but other then that, also a luxury.

Micro transactions are a good thing.

Bob Slydell

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo Atomisk View Post
/notsigned, we already ask a-net for so much, and you still want to eat away at their funds?
You are right about us asking anet for a lot, but has 3/4's of that stuff even been added or answered to? Not really. Instead we got something we didn't even see coming, concise skill descriptions (back when more then half the GW population originally asked for makeovers at the time they added those descriptions) which took up the oh so "precious time" of the devs that would have also been the same amount of time to add the makeover system.

Time Taken to add Consice Skill Descrptions on all of the 1319 skills (not to mention for all supported languages PLUS the bork bork bork language) in the game > Time taken Adding char makeover system.

-I only brought that up because im still shocked from the day that happened. lulz.

I signed for the lulz as its such an easily added implementation theres already MMO's that let you buy char makeovers for cheap in-game gold.

Heres one crazy thing to off balance the cost though, your gonna love this....

Implement Z Coins for makeover while you can now buy Z-Coins for real life money on the in-game store. LOL

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

The price would have to bee incredibly high to make sure people still consider paying as an option. Smething in the lines of... 100 Gold.

Cargan

Cargan

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2007

Scotland

[ESP]

W/

definitely /not signed. do you even remember the crap that came up over the BMP? Something people had to purchase stuff in the ingame store to acquire during a limited time, only for it to be purchasable at a cheaper price at a later date? That was a big arguement between 2 lots of customers who PAY for additional optional content.

Now consider this. Customers who pay for OPTIONAL/LUXURY privelidges will continue to pay for things they want, like name changes and makeovers. Yes, the customers who generate the most revenue for Anet. If they go and make something like this free ingame after the customers who generate the most revenue have paid for it then they're just pissing off those customers.

so, Anets options:

1. don't make it available without real money transactions thereby maximising profit and keeping the paying customers happy. Also generating more revenue for them now, and in the future.

2. make it availabe ingame without any real money payments to stop freeloaders moaning on guru, pissing off the paying customers who have already paid and losing a lot of revenue for themselevs now, and in the future. Also ensuring that no-one buys anything from the ingame store again as they'll be expecting that to be free ingame at a later date too.


...and don't start with the pointless arguement that you've paid for the game to start with and are a paying customer for that reason. You paid for the content available in the game at the time. You haven't paid for luxuries like name changes and makeovers.

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

What a lovely poll... The first option makes the implication that the current method of getting makeovers is unfair. NEWS FLASH: Leaving aside the monetary exchange rates for different RL currencies (whole other can of worms) used by GW player, the method of getting makeovers is fair. In the U.S., for example - it costs the same for you...me...them...everybody. Don't have $10 (or whatever it is)? Go earn it!

The second option insults anyone who would consider opposing the suggestion of the OP.

The bottom line is that it's a very biased poll. It's also very hypocritical -OP seeks what he/she calls "fairness" by using an unfair poll? PFFT!

/not signed.

dusanyu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

Illusion of skillz [Iz]

W/E

What you think running Game servers is free ? There is not a new Expansion Coming to sell for a while anet needs the money to keep the lights on.

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrisworld View Post

I signed for the lulz as its such an easily added implementation theres already MMO's that let you buy char makeovers for cheap in-game gold.

And are those MMOs free to play?

Hey, doesn't WoW charge for their makeovers AND charge a monthly fee to boot?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrisworld View Post
Heres one crazy thing to off balance the cost though, your gonna love this....

Implement Z Coins for makeover while you can now buy Z-Coins for real life money on the in-game store. LOL
That's not crazy. It's a good idea, in fact, I suggested it on page 1.

I want to BUY a Large Equipment pack, and Anet wants my money. Win-win.

Solas

Solas

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ireland

Currently LF Active HA Guild, Glad 2, Comm.3, R2

E/

Fair Poll-.-
Imo it's void, with your choice of words it is obviously partial to option 1.

they should reconsider the prices of the name change and toon change. but bring an in game way aswell? nope one or the other as it's already in the store.

/not-signed

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mordakai
I want to BUY a Large Equipment pack, and Anet wants my money. Win-win.
Yeah but then we really are moving into item shop territory.
I'd say a nice number of players would leave straight out if that happened.

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

Quote:
Originally Posted by ajc2123 View Post
No, he's saying we already got so much that we SHOULD have paid for and didn't.

Makeovers are a luxury and should be treated as such. Name changes could be a way out of getting banned, but other then that, also a luxury.

Micro transactions are a good thing.
While I agree that makeover are not something core, thus they are the perfect material to charge for IF they choose to do so - I would still primarily want them to be free.

That is why I support this idea, despite not really caring that they charge real money for it. Plus, I wouldn't mind changing a few of my guys. And I know I won't be paying for it.

genofreek

genofreek

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Jenova's Apocolyptic Remains [JAR]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kook~NBK~ View Post
What a lovely poll... The first option makes the implication that the current method of getting makeovers is unfair. NEWS FLASH: Leaving aside the monetary exchange rates for different RL currencies (whole other can of worms) used by GW player, the method of getting makeovers is fair. In the U.S., for example - it costs the same for you...me...them...everybody. Don't have $10 (or whatever it is)? Go earn it!

The second option insults anyone who would consider opposing the suggestion of the OP.

The bottom line is that it's a very biased poll. It's also very hypocritical -OP seeks what he/she calls "fairness" by using an unfair poll? PFFT!

/not signed.
Quoted for go red engine truth right there. Anet is a company, they're here to make money, and that doesn't make them evil. And frankly, I can get $10 (for five regular makeovers, even!) a whoooole lot faster than I can farm whatever insane amounts of gold Z coins they'd ask if this became an option.

Phoenix Tears

Phoenix Tears

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2007

/signed

had really pissed me off, that the stylist is so, like it is at the moment with these heavyreal money costs...


there needs to be an alternative way for all thoses players, which simple dont want or better said CAN'T pay the stylist with real money, like for example preteen kids in most of all cases, which makes the whole feature unfair and not well thought out.

With a Zaishen Coint Solution, the problem would be perfectly solved.

Say an amount of xx Gold Coins for a Gender Change and xx Silver Goins for Face/Hair Style Changes as like for Heigth Chances of the Character.

For example 25 Gold Coins for a gender change

25 Silver Coins for face/hair style/hegth changes or instead 2 Gold Cons and 5 Silver

should be imo a fair price...players which want the feature for free would have to work for it ingame, while players who want it have quick have to pay for it !!

Xyon the Greatest

Xyon the Greatest

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2009

Random Arenas

Mo/W

money is different from imaginary game items.

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

Zcoins sounds pretty fair so long as you get the numbers right. I'm thinking a few silver for a basic change and gold for a gender or name change.