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Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2009

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Take a look at these two links
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10378698
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Wayward_Wand_(unique)

Both items have the same stats and skin
Wayward Wand from Endgame factions can easily be bought for ~5k
why is it that the gold version (non unique) is worth 100k +?
What causes the great price difference, The ability to change mods?

any answer appreiciated

Oo Beast Oo

Oo Beast Oo

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

TIME

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Well I would say this is because of the Gold version being very rare in the game and is basically a collectors item. The Green version can easily be bought or exchanged as the end-game reward (Factions).

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

Because the gold one is rare, so there are certain idiots who will pay a lot more for it.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

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Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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Because you can mod the other one.

If I can choose between an inscribed item and a green with fixed properties, I'll choose the one I can mod, just In case I want to modify it later.

Ah, and some people consider its rarity something important. I only pay for usefulness, though.

riceangel

riceangel

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2008

Floirda

[ASH]IGN: Tokyo Hina

W/E

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Originally Posted by Oo Beast Oo View Post
Well I would say this is because of the Gold version being very rare in the game and is basically a collectors item. The Green version can easily be bought or exchanged as the end-game reward (Factions).
This, same cant be applyed to endgame proph and nf becuz they are common/easily obtained.

Ratson Itamar

Ratson Itamar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere View Post
Because you can mod the other one.

If I can choose between an inscribed item and a green with fixed properties, I'll choose the one I can mod, just In case I want to modify it later.
QFT. The posts above MithranArkanere's one are moronic and hateful for no apparent reason. You can mod it to 20/20 which is the main type of wand that I use in PvP (90+% of the time). Moreover, you can dye it. Just a little bonus.

Nay of the Ether

Nay of the Ether

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2009

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Its not worth 100k. Go into any town and do a PC. Anyone that would pay that much for one of these deserves to throw away 100k. Yes it will be worth more than the green, mainly for some of the reasons already listed. Also, one of your links is dead

False Maria

False Maria

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2009

Legendes Infernales

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Pfft. I wouldn't pay 100g for that thing, let alone 100k. Its godawful to look at (it looks like something out of Neverwinter Nights), and the stats are as common as dirt.

jimmyboveto

jimmyboveto

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

US

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I would actually agree that it is just the rarity factor. People with nothing left to do in the game like to have the rarest stuff. The type of people that are like Mithran that simply care about functionality would opt for a cheaper skin if they wanted to be able to switch mods. I find it hard people would justify spending 100k more on an item to just be able to modify it.

[DE]

[DE]

Hugs and Kisses

Join Date: Oct 2005

Scars Meadows

+5e while health above 50% is shit, being able to mod a gold one to 20/20 is not.

jimmyboveto

jimmyboveto

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

US

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I see that, but I think that even if the green was 20/20, the price difference would be the same. Just look at how cheep the end game GWEN greens are.

Nay of the Ether

Nay of the Ether

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2009

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Originally Posted by jimmyboveto View Post
I see that, but I think that even if the green was 20/20, the price difference would be the same. Just look at how cheep the end game GWEN greens are.
That's mainly because they are hideous skins. I've seen better looking stuff drop from undead in gates of kryta in NM

Misa

Misa

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Right next to the armor crafter.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by MithranArkanere View Post
Because you can mod the other one.

If I can choose between an inscribed item and a green with fixed properties, I'll choose the one I can mod, just In case I want to modify it later.

Ah, and some people consider its rarity something important. I only pay for usefulness, though.
the one on the pc thread is NOT inscribable

Ratson Itamar

Ratson Itamar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

"Flame Shield On!"

I for one, think that that this is one if not the most beautiful skin for a necro wand. Maybe there're better options for other classes so the price isn't justified for them.

@ Misa ... The people at that thread probably skipped the uninsc part, because it's the same as the green's one. Thus, making it very cheap has the only advantage is being able to dye it and it's not that noticeable anyway.

Longasc

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

There is a certain collector's attitude at work here that only counts rarity. Beauty and style is definitely not in the eye of the beholder there or of any importance at all.

Looks, stats or in this case the fact that there is a green duplicate do not count so much. In fact a non-inscribable (spelling? I have seen too many to tell the correct one) weapon/shield with good stats costs much more than a perfect inscribable weapon.

Same for perfect purples and perfect golds - you have trouble to sell a flawless r9 max stats inscription slots item if it is purple.

This is also the reason how the hooded black obsidian clown came into existence. I suggest selling such stuff here on Guru or in the US districts to fetch higher prices, even if you are playing in Europe normally.

Nihilim Dhiamara

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2008

belgium

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they aren't that rare... very common drop in the deep, the price probalby comes from the perfect mods?

LicensedLuny

Badly Influenced

Join Date: Dec 2005

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Originally Posted by Ratson Itamar View Post
The people at that thread probably skipped the uninsc part, because it's the same as the green's one. Thus, making it very cheap has the only advantage is being able to dye it and it's not that noticeable anyway.
I'm sure the PC responders noticed the wand was uninscribable.

The non-insc. stuff with max and good mods is expensive because
1) it's rare for things to drop with good, max inherent mods, not to mention how rare it is for those inherent mods to match the item's requirement
2) enough people with money like the stuff.

So if the supply of these kinds of "old school" items is low and enough players want them/are willing to pay for them then the price goes up.

The green ones, as stated, come from a well-known source and are pretty easy to get.

Also realize that when talking about the player-to-player "price" of items, it's not fixed. Some people do a lot of trading in GW, and they try to give price checks based on what they've seen in the past. If the current owner decides to sell it, the final "price" will be what the new owner gives him for it. He could list it and take offers. If no one wants to pay him what he believes it's worth, then it won't sell. Those PC responses are people's best guesses as to how much money the owner might get for it. It still requires a buyer willing to pay that much.

To answer the OP's question, it's simply that while easily obtained with green text this wand with gold text is very hard to find. The wand in the thread you listed cannot be modified. Functionally, they're the same. Why would someone pay 100k+ for the gold one when it works just like the green one, you ask? Well, why would someone buy 15k armor when it works just like 1.5k armor? This is a game. We're talking about pixels and monopoly money. It's just a matter of personal tastes.

ogre_jd

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2008

Canadia

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Originally Posted by LicensedLuny View Post
To answer the OP's question, it's simply that while easily obtained with green text this wand with gold text is very hard to find. The wand in the thread you listed cannot be modified. Functionally, they're the same. Why would someone pay 100k+ for the gold one when it works just like the green one, you ask? Well, why would someone buy 15k armor when it works just like 1.5k armor? This is a game. We're talking about pixels and monopoly money. It's just a matter of personal tastes.
Except that the 15k armor, in many cases, looks a lot different (whether better or not is subjective, of course) than the 1k armor (or the 10k armor). This is not the case with the weapons in question, which only differ in the color of their name & tooltip text (neither of which anyone but their user will ever see unless they can find people willing to look at it in the trade box) and origin (again, only the user will know except in the abformentioned situation, and if someone in the field happens to ask what weapon it is). World of difference.

Helix Dreadlock

Helix Dreadlock

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2009

Imperial Sanctum

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Originally Posted by Nay of the Ether View Post
Its not worth 100k. Go into any town and do a PC. Anyone that would pay that much for one of these deserves to throw away 100k. Yes it will be worth more than the green, mainly for some of the reasons already listed. Also, one of your links is dead
None of the links are dead

Nay of the Ether

Nay of the Ether

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Join Date: Jun 2009

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Yeah its working today. Wiki must have been down or glitching last night cause I tried it at least 4 times.

LicensedLuny

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Originally Posted by ogre_jd View Post
Except that the 15k armor, in many cases, looks a lot different (whether better or not is subjective, of course) than the 1k armor (or the 10k armor). This is not the case with the weapons in question, which only differ in the color of their name & tooltip text (neither of which anyone but their user will ever see unless they can find people willing to look at it in the trade box) and origin (again, only the user will know except in the abformentioned situation, and if someone in the field happens to ask what weapon it is). World of difference.
Yeah, I know 15k armor can look different than 1.5k armor. But it does work the same. The gold wand looks different to the owner, and any of his/her friends they show it to. To some people, the difference justifies the extra money; to others, it does not.

That's my point - Enough people put a premium on that gold text to make the prices a lot higher. Just about anyone buying the wand in question understands few or no other players will ever know the difference. Whether it makes sense to the rest of the playerbase or not, some people have the money to spend and want the gold letters, "old school" perfect stats, etc.

I'm not passing judgment. I don't care what weapons and armors and such anyone else uses. But the OP asked why the price difference, so I was trying to explain.

Pleikki

Pleikki

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Join Date: Nov 2006

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Umm. As some ppl speaking about gold being modable. Fire requirement Gold wayward wand cannot be modded as it only excist non insc. ..

Toxic OnyX

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2009

Atreia

The answer your looking for is... Rarity

For Instance

Q9 Strength Gloom Shield Inscribable -5/20 +30 hp = 10-15k max
Q9 Strength Gloom Shield Un-Inscribable -5/20 +30 hp = 100k+ Ecto

Why?

Because ANYONE can make an inscribable shield to any stats they want, but a perfect uninscribable drop is extremely rare

I Collect Canthan Staves for most professions and am happy to pay the cost for a q9 20/20 or 20/10 purely for the reason that it a perfect rare drop, yet I could buy a perfect stat staff for any char for 1-5k max, why do I and others do this?

Rarity, weapon snobbery, call it what you will.

Some ppl do this and some don't, the choice is upto each person.

Lummy

Lummy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nay of the Ether View Post
Its not worth 100k. Go into any town and do a PC. Anyone that would pay that much for one of these deserves to throw away 100k. Yes it will be worth more than the green, mainly for some of the reasons already listed. Also, one of your links is dead

put simply it is worth more than 100k, i will glady pay 100k for that exact item

ign Lummy goes ele, feel free to hit me up for 100k if u youve got the wand