Hi i was recently looking at pets and saw panda as one that was removed and it said this "The panda was removed from the game prior to release because of local laws: in China you are not allowed to depict the death of an endangered species (such as the panda) in a video game".
But that got me thinking if they have removed this why havnt they also removed Polar Bears and white tigers as they are also indangered in the wild.
It just sounds a little silly why panda is the only pet taken away.
Tell me your opinions guyes
Why Isn't The Panda Charmable?
chris1234565
Stolen Souls
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Hi i was recently looking at pets and saw panda as one that was removed and it said this "The panda was removed from the game prior to release because of local laws: in China you are not allowed to depict the death of an endangered species (such as the panda) in a video game".
But that got me thinking if they have removed this why havnt they also removed Polar Bears and white tigers as they are also indangered in the wild. It just sounds a little silly why panda is the only pet taken away. Tell me your opinions guyes |
Because Polar Bears and White Tigers (not positive about the tigers...maybe I'm wrong...too lazy to wiki) are not from China, so that law doesn't apply to them. Thats my guess anyway.
BenjZee
Symbol of china
attacking panda = attacking china too...
^^sums it up. My grammars not perfect but atleast i make sense in my thread titles.
attacking panda = attacking china too...
^^sums it up. My grammars not perfect but atleast i make sense in my thread titles.
chris1234565
I see what you guyes are saying but polars and white tigers are also ######### to kill they may not be the symbol animal off a country but its still a law
and anyway i though china had 12 symbol animals 1 for each year
and anyway i though china had 12 symbol animals 1 for each year
Snow Bunny
Because China says so.
I mean, you can debate the semantics of it all you want, but some PRC outlet requested ArenaNet remove it and they did.
I mean, you can debate the semantics of it all you want, but some PRC outlet requested ArenaNet remove it and they did.
Archress Shayleigh
White Tiger and Polar Bears aren't from china.
Helix Dreadlock
China says so. If they control the Stock market, they control your minds >
Bob Slydell
That is ridiculous. Its a digital animal.
Xsiriss
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Why Isnt The Charmable Pandas
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Anyway, pretty sure it was like the fern lizard and had something to do with animal protection, dam hippies.
Evil Eye
Hippo was also taken out.
poasiods
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I see what you guyes are saying but polars and white tigers are also ######### to kill they may not be the symbol animal off a country but its still a law
and anyway i though china had 12 symbol animals 1 for each year |
Bob Slydell
I am even more appalled then my previous post.
So how long till rangers Beast Mastery is removed from the game? ..lol
So how long till rangers Beast Mastery is removed from the game? ..lol
chris1234565
So from what ppl are saying i think china have the final words on it and i dont think anet can do nothing.
But what is stupid why they banned it coz they though ppl would kill it in game lol.
How rediculas would you be to just kill pandas on the map
But what is stupid why they banned it coz they though ppl would kill it in game lol.
How rediculas would you be to just kill pandas on the map
Bob Slydell
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So from what ppl are saying i think china have the final words on it and i dont think anet can do nothing.
But what is stupid why they banned it coz they though ppl would kill it in game lol. How rediculas would you be to just kill pandas on the map |
Oh also.. did my ranger lose his factions tiger from shing jea? I death leveled that thing for like 2 hours if its gone im deleting my ranger.
chris1234565
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For the rare chance of phat lewts. Comon thought dude its a digital polygon with a panda jpeg skin on it....
Oh also.. did my ranger lose his factions tiger from shing jea? I death leveled that thing for like 2 hours if its gone im deleting my ranger. |
why you taking this so seroisly i just wanted to know why 1 endangered pet is taken out and certain others kept in
Reverend Dr
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Symbol of china
attacking panda = attacking china too... |
exploiter
would like to see what'd China do of they added charmable "China rice farmers"
trankle
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Oh also.. did my ranger lose his factions tiger from shing jea? I death leveled that thing for like 2 hours if its gone im deleting my ranger.
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"The panda was removed from the game prior to release because of local laws: in China you are not allowed to depict the death of an endangered species (such as the panda) in a video game".
Factions was released on April 28, 2006. The panda was removed prior to that date, over three years ago.
Anet is not removing pets from the game. The sky is not falling. It'll be OK.
Island Guardian
china said it was a violent act against them
chris1234565
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china said it was a violent act against them
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and Killing a Polar Bear would be against certain Preserves
Shadowhaze
I find it pretty ridiculous. Interesting how killing animals in games is not ok, but killing people is. Stupidity.
Taixen
China say jump, people tend to say how high.
Killing a virtual panda is too bad for China, suprised that the Sunspear's were allowed to rally against Varesh.
Killing a virtual panda is too bad for China, suprised that the Sunspear's were allowed to rally against Varesh.
Spiritz
Please use logic .
China has a law about pandas - so technically they have the power to ban games as they wish if they feel it goes against their beliefs/laws.Unless your racist you want your game to be available in all countries for sales and money making purposes.
China bans gw game and thats quite a few potential customers and cash gone
Say gw decided to have it where a primary quest involves say pigs being cooked and eaten by that player - now thats the jewish people and muslims removed from guildwars .
Pandas you always think of as being cute - polar bears/tigers you know are predators but have a slight cuteness when cubs. But to portray a panda as being a killing machine would offend a lot of people even tho its just a game.
Game companies have to view what can be alowed in all countries rather than get their games banned .
I also think they have to watch exactly what the game goes into - govt dont like games which can become a politcal issue. I do remember a playstation game that got banned in several countries - Thrill Kill .. but i also recall its 'engine' was used for a Wu Tang Clan game which played similar but without the violence ( thrill kill relied on violence and graffic wounds ).
The end of the day it boils down to image - you keep a gd image with a country and they allow the games but do something that can show them ( eg chinese looking factions chr killin a panda ) doing an act thats against their rules and you portray them as being that.
China has a law about pandas - so technically they have the power to ban games as they wish if they feel it goes against their beliefs/laws.Unless your racist you want your game to be available in all countries for sales and money making purposes.
China bans gw game and thats quite a few potential customers and cash gone
Say gw decided to have it where a primary quest involves say pigs being cooked and eaten by that player - now thats the jewish people and muslims removed from guildwars .
Pandas you always think of as being cute - polar bears/tigers you know are predators but have a slight cuteness when cubs. But to portray a panda as being a killing machine would offend a lot of people even tho its just a game.
Game companies have to view what can be alowed in all countries rather than get their games banned .
I also think they have to watch exactly what the game goes into - govt dont like games which can become a politcal issue. I do remember a playstation game that got banned in several countries - Thrill Kill .. but i also recall its 'engine' was used for a Wu Tang Clan game which played similar but without the violence ( thrill kill relied on violence and graffic wounds ).
The end of the day it boils down to image - you keep a gd image with a country and they allow the games but do something that can show them ( eg chinese looking factions chr killin a panda ) doing an act thats against their rules and you portray them as being that.
Evil Eye
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Does this mean we'll never have charmable Mohammads?
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Banane-O-Man
You can use the textmod to make your polar bear look like a panda.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Guide...Panda_Bear_Pet
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Guide...Panda_Bear_Pet
FlamingMetroid
China got butthurt, it isn't smart to make your future overlords butthurt
Shadowhaze
It's against the law to kill people too in most places isn't it? lol.
There is flawed logic somewhere there.
And in the end, it's all about money. That's all most companies care about...profit.
There is flawed logic somewhere there.
And in the end, it's all about money. That's all most companies care about...profit.
Enon
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Originally Posted by Spiritz
Please use logic .
China has a law about pandas - so technically they have the power to ban games as they wish if they feel it goes against their beliefs/laws. |
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But to portray a panda as being a killing machine would offend a lot of people even tho its just a game.
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Oh by the way - I love killing Elonian players because they're dark skinned. Hate crime ftw. Can you see where I'm going with this? :-)
englitdaudelin
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So last time I checked pretty much every country has a law against killing humans. What exactly is the difference between killing an animated panda and killing an animated human?
I'm offended by the killing machine called White Tiger. Oh by the way - I love killing Elonian players because they're dark skinned. Hate crime ftw. Can you see where I'm going with this? :-) |
Anyway, all the answers already explained it. While tigers and polar bears are endangered, they are not the "national symbol" of a potentially huge market for the game company.
It's fine to offend tree-huggers, just not fine to offend a massive section of the market.
MMSDome
Charming and endangered species would just be flat out cruel!
Kerwyn Nasilan
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Originally Posted by Evil Eye
Hippo was also taken out.
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lxl James lxl
from wiki "in recent decades the Giant Panda has also served as an emblem for the country" problem solve =p it is like saying that...oo every1 China doing the dumb law cause they dun let Panda put in game because of endanger...well...what about this...why don't Anet put in "Bald Eagle" and kill it and cap it? o wait...bald eagle is represent U.S.A...so now I hope u see why the reason they have to right to not put in the Panda...Panda is like represent of China...so show some respect...
Miss Puddles
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Hippo was also taken out.
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HawkofStorms
Do you want A.net to be sued? It's a rather minor change that they implemented and it is better to do that then risk getting into trouble over. Preventative lawyering at its best.
Hyperventilate
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So last time I checked pretty much every country has a law against killing humans. What exactly is the difference between killing an animated panda and killing an animated human?
I'm offended by the killing machine called White Tiger. Oh by the way - I love killing Elonian players because they're dark skinned. Hate crime ftw. Can you see where I'm going with this? :-) |
Lhim
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I find it pretty ridiculous. Interesting how killing animals in games is not ok, but killing people is. Stupidity.
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But anyway, it was the right thing to do from Anet's side. Quite a large portion of the market might have been lost otherwise.
Chicken Ftw
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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny
Because China says so.
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Dawn Angelheart
Quoting Snow Bunny "Because China said so"
Something else.
China's the only country to complain about animals. No1 else did. So nothing else was taken out. Simple as.
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Originally Posted by Chicken Ftw
End of discussion, really. Nothing more needs to be said.
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China's the only country to complain about animals. No1 else did. So nothing else was taken out. Simple as.
Sun Fired Blank
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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
The panda is another issue: We wanted to have a panda pet, particularly in Factions. However, we were looking towards the first level of testing in China at that time, and in China, you are not allowed to even depict the death of an endangered species, such as the panda, in a video game. This caused us to decide that we must remove the panda from the pet list, for it was not appropriate or offer it in other regions and not in Asia, or specifically in China. http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Talk:...d_Panda_Pet.3F
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