Viewing other's missions

NocturnalLunacy

NocturnalLunacy

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2009

The Shadows of the Cornfields Nebraska

TruE

Rt/N

What if we were able to watch other players as they do their missions? As if we were watching alliance battles.

gerlin

gerlin

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

W/

Over 9000 metadata stored on the server causing massive lag and slowing down the game in general. Thousands of videos watching people running discord or sabway with H&H and seeing pugs fail....

/not signed

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

Why would anyone want to sit around watching others do missions? If you want to learn how to do them, there's wiki. If you want to see how runners do missions, pay the runner. And, as gerlin said, it would be a massive resource hog. This is NOT an "Awesome idea."

/not signed

Elephantaliste

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2008

adblockplus.or

Actually it could be a good idea if it works like for PvP : 3 Best times to clean an elite zone for exmaple.

Raccoon

Raccoon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

Me/A

Because servers are just endless reels of power that can fully support such a concept.

no

/notsigned

stanzhao

stanzhao

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2008

the concept would be amazing. imagine the amount of laughs you would get watching people fail and call each other names in PuG groups. people raging and seeing some of the most f'd up builds being played badly.

but the practical side of it is not worth the effort. but god damn it would be funny

KoKoS

KoKoS

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

aBove Empress Amarox xP

KDT

Mo/E

/notsigned

it would make the game really slow..

NocturnalLunacy

NocturnalLunacy

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2009

The Shadows of the Cornfields Nebraska

TruE

Rt/N

And that's why there should be servers set up just for this. DUH. You wouldn't run this on the same servers as the actual game play. There would be a time difference between actual play and watching. How is that so hard. There are games that do it all the time. And I'm sure that people would be watching to learn how to do certain things, but mainly just to watch. It's the same as watching alliance battles or something. Just actual game play instead of a special battle. Why is that so hard?

The Arching Healer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2006

Super Kaon Action Team [SuKa]

Observe mode shouldnt be there in the first place.

ImhotepVT

ImhotepVT

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

Netherlands

Last Chance to See [DNA]

P/W

I like it! Just grab a beer and laugh your head off ;-)

(or feel really sorry for yourself, 'cause the other bloke is truly awesome)

Kerwyn Nasilan

Kerwyn Nasilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2007

WHERE DO YOU THINK

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by NocturnalLunacy View Post
And that's why there should be servers set up just for this. DUH. You wouldn't run this on the same servers as the actual game play. There would be a time difference between actual play and watching. How is that so hard. There are games that do it all the time. And I'm sure that people would be watching to learn how to do certain things, but mainly just to watch. It's the same as watching alliance battles or something. Just actual game play instead of a special battle. Why is that so hard?
Where would this magical new server come from?

MirkoTeran

MirkoTeran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Slovenia

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kerwyn Nasilan View Post
Where would this magical new server come from?
Make it pay-per-view?

j/k .. its a bad idea.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

Actually, it be interesting and enlightening to see vids of top three times of each mission/vq ever.

MirkoTeran

MirkoTeran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Slovenia

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by zwei2stein View Post
Actually, it be interesting and enlightening to see vids of top three times of each mission/vq ever.
Only if it was associated with some kind of reward. If not its going to be as popular as challenge missions are now.

Scary

Scary

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

Uhmmmm??

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by stanzhao View Post
the concept would be amazing. imagine the amount of laughs you would get watching people fail and call each other names in PuG groups. people raging and seeing some of the most f'd up builds being played badly.

but the practical side of it is not worth the effort. but god damn it would be funny
Indeed

but still notsigned

[Morkai]

[Morkai]

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2007

Heroes of Elonia [HE]

W/Rt

Fraps. .

Kattar

Kattar

EXCESSIVE FLUTTERCUSSING

Join Date: Mar 2007

SMS (lolgw2placeholder)

Me/

Quote:
There are games that do it all the time.
Name me an MMO that does.

Archress Shayleigh

Archress Shayleigh

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2009

Guild Hall

R/

mega lags... /not signed
also u can go to youtube

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Although it could be somehow good for some players to learn some things, the pros don't compensate for the cons.

In PvE:
- People wanting other to see what they do should use things like Youtube.
- People wanting to see others playing should join in their parties.

The only exception I could add is some solo missions, like Polymock or the Norn tournament. But not as observers, but as 'spectators', with their skills disabled and where other spectators or the referee are.

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

The only way I could see this happening is to add an option to the party window to add spectators, with a limit of how many spectators there could be. That way, people could be watching how people do farms or runs or just generally play in PvE, but not get in the way, and it's not necessary to save videos of players playing these areas.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke View Post
The only way I could see this happening is to add an option to the party window to add spectators, with a limit of how many spectators there could be. That way, people could be watching how people do farms or runs or just generally play in PvE, but not get in the way, and it's not necessary to save videos of players playing these areas.
Well, that can be already done:
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Sacrifice
Enter, die, click on the guy you want to follow.

But there's the thing of gaining death counts that way, though.

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

E/

/signed for elite mission only.

reasons:
1) good for players who has never play an elite area before.
2) if server is the worry, can always impose a limited viewers number thing to prevent too many players using up all the server. eg: maximum spectator has reached, please try again later.
3) only show the best few.

Doc Zenith

Doc Zenith

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

what happened to the privacy? if you dont want to share something with everyone else you shouldn't need to period.

Bristlebane

Bristlebane

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

Mo/

/not signed,

but if it worked in real-time like when you're dead and clicking a party member, sure why not. Then it could work like this:
- Member in party does a /invite Player X.
- Player X accepts, loading screen and can then observe as a 'dead' player.

smilingscar

smilingscar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

Frontline Legion

Me/

It would be incredibly awesome if it were just two videos or so. One of the best times for a mission (with bonuses) and one for the worst (for laughs/lessons on what not to do). If it was restricted to elite areas and two videos per area per day, that would be 26 videos to observe per day. You could cut it down to 12, if you only count DoA and Slaver's as one area and perhaps rotated which sub-area was viewable each day. For that matter, you could just show one video per area and trim it down to 6!

I'm all for for it. It would be good for players who are PvE competent but don't quite know the tricks of the trade concerning elite quests and missions. Perhaps we could finally see the slow death of group failure due to someone taking the wrong quest or attacking the wrong foe (ahh mister wailing lord...why must you be so deliciously killable?).

Wouldn't this also help to bridge the gap from PvE to PvP as well? It would familiarize the PvE population with observer mode, and teach them to learn from the examples of better players.

/Signed: It's not feasible for every mission, but it would be a great asset for elite missions. And it also makes sense in of pve leading to pvp.

REDdelver

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

Girls Pee Pee When They See [ME]

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elephantaliste View Post
Actually it could be a good idea if it works like for PvP : 3 Best times to clean an elite zone for exmaple.
/never-sign

It would not be a good idea. Observer mode has brought META-MEDIOCRITY to this game, which most old-head pvp'ers truly believe has been the true downfall of GvG and HA. It never "worked" for pvp.

Observer mode has been nothing but a bad virus that won't go away unless they drop Observer mode for good. We certainly dont need it in the easiest part of the game....pve. Copy/paste ...copy/paste....copy/paste = crap learning curve = typically bad play.

Zzes Tyan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2009

Florida

[Play]

D/

i want to lol at fail pugs fail....

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

no. Theres currently enough useless crap *cough cough hero battles* on my observer mode as it is, much less a bunch of random people running around in pve...

DarkFlame

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2005

Ascalon

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by NocturnalLunacy View Post
And that's why there should be servers set up just for this... Why is that so hard?
And money grows on trees, right?

You can already find plenty on Youtube. No need for Anet to bankrupt itself to fund this massive and pointless endeavor.

crazybanshee

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Look out!

E/

Ugh, notsigned. Most are irrelevant to watch anyway, as they're pugs or fails or average. The truly outstanding ones are posted on youtube. Enjoy.