I don't know if this is new but someone in LA tried to sell me a Keg of Aged Hunter's Ale with only 1 use remaining........I want to report him to ArenaNET but I think he will get away with it because "technically" he did submit an offer of a single Keg of Aged Hunter's Ale in the trade window for the agreed upon price in our chat
stupid me......I didn't ask how many uses were left
Keg of Aged Hunter's Ale Scam
kenshin_
Will Holden
Its really your own fault for not paying attention, a lesson learnt.
Massive Impulsa
Technically, he has done nothing wrong, he sold u a Keg of Aged Hunter's
Altough - thx for warning the rest here - i'll double check next time i buy 1
Altough - thx for warning the rest here - i'll double check next time i buy 1
Shayne Hawke
Sheesh, people'll try anything these days, won't they?
therangereminem
always check your trade window, all i have to say
Puddin Cheeks
I saw someone a while back trying this with perfect salvage kits as well. 1 use left, for 1k ea.
Saph
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Originally Posted by therangereminem
always check your trade window, all i have to say
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Helix Dreadlock
I always double check
The Arching Healer
lol owned???
MithranArkanere
Hm... they could change their name color to prevent that...
- 50 uses : Gold
- 49..25 : Silver
- 24..1 uses : Cooper.
Hm... I wonder if items can change their names like that...
- 50 uses : Gold
- 49..25 : Silver
- 24..1 uses : Cooper.
Hm... I wonder if items can change their names like that...
Archress Shayleigh
lol ur fault
Unknown Duli
sucks, but thanks for the warning. Im sure not many peeps were looking at the uses remaining.
Fril Estelin
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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
Hm... they could change their name color to prevent that...
- 50 uses : Gold - 49..25 : Silver - 24..1 uses : Cooper. Hm... I wonder if items can change their names like that... |
http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Common_scams
I'm sure I can come up with general, easy to remember rules for not being scammed. But people would read them and forget them a little while after!
lodgeinator
if anyone has ever played in pre for a length of time will have come across this befor, with charr salvage kits.
tcratty
reminds me of the time a guy said he was selling gifts of the traveler then he tried to sell me gifts of the huntsman i told him lol nice try but i have a pre character also
makosi
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Originally Posted by Saph
Ditto that. 99% of scams happen because people werent paying attention to what they were buying/selling.
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poppu16
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Originally Posted by kenshin_
I don't know if this is new but someone in LA tried to sell me a Keg of Aged Hunter's Ale with only 1 use remaining........I want to report him to ArenaNET but I think he will get away with it because "technically" he did submit an offer of a single Keg of Aged Hunter's Ale in the trade window for the agreed upon price in our chat
stupid me......I didn't ask how many uses were left |
nkuvu
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Originally Posted by makosi
But 100% of scams happen because there's an asshole trying to take advantage of another guy.
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I've made mistakes when putting things into the trade window before. For example, I had several Charr Salvage Kits in pre-searing. One had only one use left, but I had three full ones. Someone wanted to buy a full one. I put the near-empty one up for trade, but caught the mistake as soon as I'd pressed submit offer. Changed to the full kit, and everyone went home happy. But it's perfectly possible to make mistakes like this and not catch them -- and have the other person think you're trying to scam.
I'll agree that the vast majority of problem trades come from someone trying to take advantage, but not all.
pinguinius
This is a really obvious scam and I immediately knew what it was going to be before I clicked the thread. Also the OP didn't seem to actually get scammed, so I'm failing to see the point here, aside from a warning to an imaginary population of overly stupid individuals who also want Kegs of Aged Hunter's Ale.
Gummy Kitty
Anet could make it that if you use the Keg it becomes customized to you, thus when you try to sell it it gives the warning to the other player that the item is customized. But can still can be sold and used by another player.
Kendel
I think Anet need to do absolutely nothing and that people should look at what they're actually buying. Yes he's an asshole for doing it, he never forced you to click accept though. If you don't assume everyone is out to scam you and make damn sure you check trade you deserve everything you get.
sosycpsycho
its the same as the middleman scam. Where one guy says WTB: Stupid Item Nobody Has 140e! and then another guy is trying to sell same one for 100e
it saddens me to think that people buy it trying to play the "middleman" when these two people could have easily talked to each other and made a sell, if it was not a scam.
I think the real problem is a/nets policy on Scammers is ill defined. in the case of what you have there is not much to be done. But I everyday see very obvious scams occurring in open chat, and honestly there should be no defense for people who do these things and much of the problem could be fixed if they would added some better reporting features.
it saddens me to think that people buy it trying to play the "middleman" when these two people could have easily talked to each other and made a sell, if it was not a scam.
I think the real problem is a/nets policy on Scammers is ill defined. in the case of what you have there is not much to be done. But I everyday see very obvious scams occurring in open chat, and honestly there should be no defense for people who do these things and much of the problem could be fixed if they would added some better reporting features.
Floski
That's not a scam, that's you fulfilling the role of a retailer.
pinguinius
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Originally Posted by sosycpsycho
its the same as the middleman scam. Where one guy says WTB: Stupid Item Nobody Has 140e! and then another guy is trying to sell same one for 100e
it saddens me to think that people buy it trying to play the "middleman" when these two people could have easily talked to each other and made a sell, if it was not a scam. I think the real problem is a/nets policy on Scammers is ill defined. in the case of what you have there is not much to be done. But I everyday see very obvious scams occurring in open chat, and honestly there should be no defense for people who do these things and much of the problem could be fixed if they would added some better reporting features. |
Also I don't know what seedy back alleys of Guild Wars you patrol, but I never see "obvious scams," I only see people spamming their misguided hearts out trying to sell/buy things for prices no one will ever go for.
Martin Alvito
How is this not a scam?
Functionally, the player is not selling you the keg. He's selling you the the right to consume (or resell) the remaining uses in the keg.
If he's trying to sell you one use at the well-accepted market price of 50 uses, he's scamming. You'd call selling 50 spiked eggnogs and putting 1 in the trade window a scam, right?
Just because the 50 use item and the 1 use item are labeled the same does not absolve this guy of scamming.
Functionally, the player is not selling you the keg. He's selling you the the right to consume (or resell) the remaining uses in the keg.
If he's trying to sell you one use at the well-accepted market price of 50 uses, he's scamming. You'd call selling 50 spiked eggnogs and putting 1 in the trade window a scam, right?
Just because the 50 use item and the 1 use item are labeled the same does not absolve this guy of scamming.
batno_mercy
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I think Anet need to do absolutely nothing and that people should look at what they're actually buying.
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AmbientMelody
Technically speaking, it's not a scam since you buy what you buy. Pay attention to what you are buying, mate, people like that are everywhere (especially outside virtual life if you get the point). It would be a scam if on item trade window it clearly stated it's item Y but after successful transaction you would get item X. Then, it would involve use of some kinds of hacks, not a foul play and would deserve Anet action.
PS. Just ask yourself why in 'report' button there is no such a sub-option as 'scam'.
PS. Just ask yourself why in 'report' button there is no such a sub-option as 'scam'.
Johny bravo
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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
Hm... they could change their name color to prevent that...
- 50 uses : Gold - 49..25 : Silver - 24..1 uses : Cooper. Hm... I wonder if items can change their names like that... |
We have all done it, I miscalculated when selling broken stacks but I haven't asked ANET to install a calculator in the trade window.
If you are smart enough to check, then it is your fault. You weren't scammed you were careless.
On a side note I feel the same way about warning labels for ridiculous stuff such as Hair dryers - do not use in shower. Seriously if you are using a hairdryer in the shower you should probably be removed from the gene pool anyway
paddymew
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Originally Posted by nkuvu
I wouldn't say 100%.
I've made mistakes when putting things into the trade window before. For example, I had several Charr Salvage Kits in pre-searing. One had only one use left, but I had three full ones. Someone wanted to buy a full one. I put the near-empty one up for trade, but caught the mistake as soon as I'd pressed submit offer. Changed to the full kit, and everyone went home happy. But it's perfectly possible to make mistakes like this and not catch them -- and have the other person think you're trying to scam. I'll agree that the vast majority of problem trades come from someone trying to take advantage, but not all. |
Kook~NBK~
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PS. Just ask yourself why in 'report' button there is no such a sub-option as 'scam'.
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But yeah, This is another case (aren't they all) of "PAY ATTENTION TO THE TRADE WINDOW AND THE DESCRIPTION OF THE ITEM(S) IN IT!" If you're expecting 50 uses from the keg your buying, make use it says "50 uses remaining." (or however it's worded in the item description)
nkuvu
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Originally Posted by paddymew
A scam is, by definition, when someone tries to trick someone else into doing a deal that is worse than what they agreed upon. If it's a mistake, it is NOT a scam, it's a mistake. You don't say that dogs don't bark because your cat didn't... :P
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But people would still call it a "scam."
Targren
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That's not a scam, that's you fulfilling the role of a retailer.
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Riiight...
Stolen Souls
I don't really see it as a scam. You wanted to buy a keg, he was selling a keg. Unless it was made clear that you wanted one with 50 uses, or he said he was selling one with 50 uses, you got what you paid for...a keg. Just one of those times where you have to check before accepting.
The Scorpion Knight
New items cause for new scams, thanks for the heads up though.
poasiods
This is a scam. The guy should know that anyone would reasonably expect a full keg of ale instead of a keg with only one use left. Yeah, no one said it, but it goes against the general public expectation and clearly has intent to deceive. Whisper the seller, and if he/she doesn't respond or says something like, "lmao retard," Anet/Support his ass. Imagine a guy selling you a car that he knows will die after one week's use for 4,000 dollars without mentioning anything. No, you didn't ask, but both of you knew you were expecting a car that would last way more than 1 week. Otherwise, it's the seller's duty to inform the buyer.
If I recall correctly, I do remember seeing someone post here about writing to support about a leecher during a run. Apparently, he got a response saying that the leecher was temporarily banned.
If I recall correctly, I do remember seeing someone post here about writing to support about a leecher during a run. Apparently, he got a response saying that the leecher was temporarily banned.
Burst Cancel
I guess people need to start putting up disclaimers on their sell spam. "ITEMS ARE SOLD AS-IS, WITH NO EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES FOR FITNESS FOR ANY PARTICULAR PURPOSE."
And here I thought that was pretty much the default condition.
And here I thought that was pretty much the default condition.
talon994
Its your fault for not looking at it....common sense
Hanging Man
Yeah always make sure you check the trade window
I got this req 10 dwarven axe I think, and didn't even notice it wasn't max damage.
DUH
I got this req 10 dwarven axe I think, and didn't even notice it wasn't max damage.
DUH
Massive Impulsa
Anet Shouldnt use time on modding stuff like this, just use common sense...
Anet have better things to do..
Anet have better things to do..
Arkantos
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Originally Posted by nkuvu
I wouldn't say 100%.
I've made mistakes when putting things into the trade window before. For example, I had several Charr Salvage Kits in pre-searing. One had only one use left, but I had three full ones. Someone wanted to buy a full one. I put the near-empty one up for trade, but caught the mistake as soon as I'd pressed submit offer. Changed to the full kit, and everyone went home happy. But it's perfectly possible to make mistakes like this and not catch them -- and have the other person think you're trying to scam. I'll agree that the vast majority of problem trades come from someone trying to take advantage, but not all. |
Anyways, depending on how he advertised it, I wouldn't call this a scam. If he said he was selling a keg and he sold you a keg, then you bought what he was advertising. If he said he was selling you a full keg and he sold you one with less than 50 uses, then he scammed you. But as others have said, if you use common sense you won't get scammed.