10 Jun 2009 at 18:23 - 8
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Do you think people doing raptors take leachers for the company? No. it is because the raptor cave has party scaled drops and when people come to get points and stay out of range you get their gold drops.
stop spreading the lie that leechers cause more drops. the party scaleing drops only works if they are in your radar.
10 Jun 2009 at 18:31 - 9
I agree with Lodge, I raptor farm on events and have taken groups and done solo and have had the same rate of drops. Doing it solo however gets rid of the headache of dealing with others that don't like to listen.
10 Jun 2009 at 18:38 - 10
yeh and when you solo leechers cant map out when you get 5 golds+black dyes 
10 Jun 2009 at 18:52 - 12
It's summer time, the birds have molted and all their feathers are gone! OHNOES!@
Seriously though, I've tried this run in NM and it's not as profitable with drops or feathers as it is in HM. In HM I run smite/600 with the double SB deal happening and Radiation Field... birds die super fast and feathers drop in numbers of 19-27 per bird.
Good luck to you guys.
10 Jun 2009 at 18:53 - 13
OMG no more feathers what will we do.
10 Jun 2009 at 18:56 - 14
Well I am in Tyria bird farming and running into no problems 70-100 feathers a run. If there is a farm code then you need to clear the pipes and do something else for a while. I would not be surprised. But GW would be sooo boring if we ever did know everything
10 Jun 2009 at 19:25 - 15
Its been said time and time again - dont over farm a zone .
1. Farm target zone for several runs
2. Go for either an alternate farm for a few zones or do a short run - say marketplace to kaineng ( some reason it treats it like being elsewhere between zones ).
3. return to original farm for a few runs.
I gather with all the people who shout "xxxxx farms been nerfed" only use 1 chr for farming - i farm feathers on 5 diff chrs who i alternate and if theres been a nerf it must have slipped past me as none of them have had seriously bad drops.
Its bad luck your having - same as i have bad luck with gok and bergen for dust - 3x done gok mission and had a grand total of zero dust tho slightly more orr embs than usual - but thats just luck.
And yes anet stated antifarm code dont exist but if you have never understood what it was - from what i was told when overfarmed you actually had a message of sorts come thru , you can always ask any 4yr players about this.
Anet stated they dropped it and replaced with loot scaling - any person with logic would work out you get good drop and bad drop days and if you overfarm you get more junk - a majority of players have already said this as well as evidence from the mass amount of "xxx been nerfed" posts for almost every zone going at some stage.Also tho anet never verified how the drops change due to over farming as when loot scaling was dropped on us we still had a huge amount of bots doing repetative farming.
How does anets code deiferentiate between Joe bloggs farming Gok everyday for 4 hrs and a bot doing the same ? If it was that easy then gw would be bot free totally.
The cry used to be constantly said about Uw and ectos .
If you farm one place for a month and nowhere else on that chr - then its your fault the drops decreased badly.
The issue isnt leechers nor were they in the op post so can we be without them - leechers have had their own posts for arguing on.
10 Jun 2009 at 19:32 - 16
Hve done a few runs in Jaya 2day, its perfectly fine, between 70-120 feathers a run
10 Jun 2009 at 19:58 - 17
after too many runs at same place you start getting absolutely crap drops..no zone has been "nerfed" no matter who says what.
10 Jun 2009 at 21:01 - 18
I 600 rit/smite Jaya Bluff fine in HM and get anywhere from 150-220 feathers a run. No nerf at all. Just a bad run.
10 Jun 2009 at 21:31 - 19
my 5 skill any/rit build gave my 116 feathers in 2 runs(small 8 min runs)
so looks ok
11 Jun 2009 at 03:29 - 20
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Originally Posted by Anori Sakaii
Ok, so I have been farming feathers for over a month at Jaya Bluffs. Been making really good money until yesterday... I had the worst run ever, 4 feathers and 5 feathers crests  . I thought that it was just the run. Then today, 2 bad runs. Then I asked my friend who showed me the build and taught me the farm. She said that the place was nerfed and that there are new builds and new places to farm them.
I was just wondering if this is true. And if anyone else was getting crap drops.
In my almost 2 years farming feathers in Jaya Bluff I have never experienced nor heard of anyone having such bad hair days, lol. I did a run today because of what the OP said, and got a gold, 22 crests and 60 feathers. No nerf at all. It will be highly improable for Anet to nerf a farming spot when the prices of feathers is shooting through the roof. If that happens, then we will see feathers being priced at 15k a stack.
Sometimes I do get players asking for like 12 stacks feathers after selling them all I had. 2 days solid farming to get those without experiencing anything like what OP said. If I do experience low drops (nothing like the OP) maybe like 10 crests and 30 feathers and no golds, I will farm elsewhere or do some other stuff. The drops will improve over time, and I do this because, yes, I do think drops does get better. I could be wrong though. Furthermore, I also believe that slower kills begets more drops but again that is my opinion and my experience. I don't believe in antifarming code as I also do Raptors, Vaettirs, Hydra, Queen Kephket, Shreador, Pongmei, Tsumei Valley, Kryta mission, Kryta Province, Bergen etc, solo and have no problems with drops.
11 Jun 2009 at 06:59 - 21
Farmcode doesn't exist anymore. I've played since the start of GW, and all of you ppl who say that farmcode still exists haven't experienced it tbh. There's just good luck and bad luck, during events if I rezone to kill vaettirs 30 times I could get 2 black dyes and 4 golds on the last run, just hope you get some good luck and if you're pissed cause you ain't getting anything just try again later. Off-topic, leechers do NOT increase drops, some of my guildies have maxed their title with this and they all said they wouldn't get any extra stuff, so stop QQing about it, just take leechers for faster rezone.
11 Jun 2009 at 10:11 - 22
What the entire gw community could do with is 1 simple answer to a question from anet
Does overfarming a zone give less drops over time?
Surely anet can answer this question as were not asking for game secrets but an answer to something we all want to know.I doubt if they answer they will lose players or even affect gameplay - it will clear up probably one of the oldest debates going and put players to ease.
Regina if you do read this thread please can you find out and post a reply as im sure the gw community would appreciate it greatly.
11 Jun 2009 at 10:50 - 23
anet has said there is no anti farming code (only loot scaleing) so from this can can say that drops will not get worse over time.
11 Jun 2009 at 12:29 - 24
I farm Nebo terrace all the time, sometimes i get lots and sometimes i get little.
11 Jun 2009 at 15:22 - 25
My friend said the new place to farm is Nahpui, but she doesnt have build. Someone pinged me a Rit build, but i dont got a rit.
11 Jun 2009 at 22:51 - 27
ANet say alll sorts of things, many proven to be false. Certainly Anti-farm code in it's old form was removed, but there is a boddy of evidence to suggest that if you hit a zone a lot then eventually it turns to crud. Raptors are now worthless to me, I get about 1 gold in every 6 runs, that's not luck, that's something in the game.
12 Jun 2009 at 12:52 - 28
I've done 4 runs the other day and I got over 100 feathers each run. Try farming elsewhere for a day or two.
12 Jun 2009 at 13:06 - 29
Most of the time i go do uwsc, but since I've been getting rly crappy drops and actually lose money, i decided to start feather farming again, and I can't see any problems with it:
I do the full run, in 13 minutes, and I've never got less than 50 feathers (feathers+salvaged crests), which is very low, but happens in 1 run in 20, and i usually get between 80 and 130, so I don't really believe that the area has been nerfed.
I also used to run bergen hot springs on my 55 monk (noob, i know ^^) and i had an average of 1k a run (merch food). The drops got slightly worse over time, but I spose it's just bad luck, since the difference isn't really big.
12 Jun 2009 at 18:36 - 30
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Originally Posted by Orange Milk
@ gw_poster Do the R/E build, it's faster.
What's the R/E build?
13 Jun 2009 at 00:20 - 31
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Originally Posted by aubee
13 Jun 2009 at 19:43 - 32
Ive changed mine Conly, 12 mins a run now for 16 mobs.
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that one there is the stuff. I'd type it all out but the BBcode is down so ireally wont matter.
15 Jun 2009 at 01:02 - 33
kk OJ!!! Hehe, but really, I found earth skills worked so well, the following build and 1/2 are dead after casting the elite:
[build=OgYTk4rhXarKXEHMVM1xVw344AA]
I take around 15-20 minutes a run, since I waste time ID/salvage and dropping... Inv space at a premium when items are 20g/each...
15 Jun 2009 at 09:50 - 34
Farming Code was removed, Loot Scaling is now how farming is "controlled".
With loot scaling, you get less drops while soloing, while killing multiple enemies at once with AoE damage, or out while in a party but out of radar range of other party members, with the exception of the following items:
Gold Items
Tomes (both regular and Elite)
Rare Crafting Materials (Shards, Ecto, etc.)
Event Drops (Clovers, Grog, Choc. Bunnies, Lunar Tokens, CC Shards, etc.)
Dye
(mebbe more, sue me for laziness @ 0430 hours in the effing morning)
Some runs you will get great returns, others, you won't (the longer you farm an area repeatedly, the more likely you are going to have a "meh" or worse, completely shitty, run) and the only thing you can do is go do something else for a while unless you are farming for items that are NOT affected by loot scaling (which you will still have "good" runs and "not so good" runs).
As far as Leechers having a damn thing to do with drops, see the above posted comment about loot scaling - nah, I'll post it again, bolded for all of you who swear by the logic of "Leechers = More Drops". With loot scaling, you get less drops while soloing, while killing multiple enemies at once with AoE damage, or out while in a party but out of radar range of other party members. When you bring Leechers, they stay out of radar range. Why? Because if they don't, the loot has a chance to be assigned to them when it drops, even if they didn't do a damned thing to the mob that coughed up the drop.
As such, since they are out of radar range, nothing that would have dropped for them is going to drop for you, UNLESS IT WASN'T AFFECTED BY LOOT SCALING IN THE FIRST PLACE - meaning IT WOULD HAVE DROPPED FOR YOU REGARDLESS OF IF YOU WERE SOLO OR IN A PARTY WITH EVERYONE OUTSIDE OF RADAR RANGE.
Anyone who says any differently had a "good" run rather than a "shitty" run while they happened to have Leechers with them.
I Raptor farmed from r4 to 3/4 of the way to r10 Asuran rep, I've done sets of runs with both Leechers and without Leechers (my runs take less than a minute, and if I took a Leecher or a few, I've always farmed at least an hour straight with them in my party - that's ~60 runs per hour, so don't say I haven't given plenty of time to run with Leechers), and there was NEVER a difference in the quality or quantity of drops with or without. I've had just as many really good (4-5 golds + 1-3 dyes) runs as I have really shitty (no golds, no dyes, maybe 1 or 2 drops total) runs while carrying Leechers as I have while not carrying Leechers.
Anyone who says Leechers effect drop rate is blowing smoke out of their ass. Period.
15 Jun 2009 at 09:50 - 35
Farming Code was removed, Loot Scaling is now how farming is "controlled".
With loot scaling, you get less drops while soloing, while killing multiple enemies at once with AoE damage, or out while in a party but out of radar range of other party members, with the exception of the following items:
Gold Items
Tomes (both regular and Elite)
Rare Crafting Materials (Shards, Ecto, etc.)
Event Drops (Clovers, Grog, Choc. Bunnies, Lunar Tokens, CC Shards, etc.)
Dye
(mebbe more, sue me for laziness @ 0430 hours in the effing morning)
Some runs you will get great returns, others, you won't (the longer you farm an area repeatedly, the more likely you are going to have a "meh" or worse, completely shitty, run) and the only thing you can do is go do something else for a while unless you are farming for items that are NOT affected by loot scaling (which you will still have "good" runs and "not so good" runs).
As far as Leechers having a damn thing to do with drops, see the above posted comment about loot scaling - nah, I'll post it again, bolded for all of you who swear by the logic of "Leechers = More Drops". With loot scaling, you get less drops while soloing, while killing multiple enemies at once with AoE damage, or out while in a party but out of radar range of other party members. When you bring Leechers, they stay out of radar range. Why? Because if they don't, the loot has a chance to be assigned to them when it drops, even if they didn't do a damned thing to the mob that coughed up the drop.
As such, since they are out of radar range, nothing that would have dropped for them is going to drop for you, UNLESS IT WASN'T AFFECTED BY LOOT SCALING IN THE FIRST PLACE - meaning IT WOULD HAVE DROPPED FOR YOU REGARDLESS OF IF YOU WERE SOLO OR IN A PARTY WITH EVERYONE OUTSIDE OF RADAR RANGE.
Anyone who says any differently had a "good" run rather than a "shitty" run while they happened to have Leechers with them.
I Raptor farmed from r4 to 3/4 of the way to r10 Asuran rep, I've done sets of runs with both Leechers and without Leechers (my runs take less than a minute, and if I took a Leecher or a few, I've always farmed at least an hour straight with them in my party - that's ~60 runs per hour, so don't say I haven't given plenty of time to run with Leechers), and there was NEVER a difference in the quality or quantity of drops with or without. I've had just as many really good (4-5 golds + 1-3 dyes) runs as I have really shitty (no golds, no dyes, maybe 1 or 2 drops total) runs while carrying Leechers as I have while not carrying Leechers.
Anyone who says Leechers effect drop rate is blowing smoke out of their ass. Period.
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