Update - Thursday, June 11

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

z-quests have changed from Jennur's Horde and Urgoz to Destructive Depths (again) and Mage of the Sands (again) post update.

Also... I thought the point of those res orbs in AB was to bring a shrine NPCs back to life. I mean, other then that those things are completely impratical (most players respawn by the time you can run into range and drop). I can't believe that was a bug.

And they said "they can't release info" not "there is no skill update planned." And everything is a sign GW is "dying" to you people. Shove it.

Apoc

Apoc

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Montreal, Canada

Quebekers Alliance [QKA]

W/

Yeah cool, I get to redo DD and that damn ele boss in Poisoned Outcrops.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

No April skill update, and now June's is delayed. If ANet have no clue when it will be released, I'm assuming it's not happening. Not a good way of pleasing the PvP community.

Taixen

Taixen

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

England

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by reaper with no name View Post
...



...That's it?


^
I think that sums up most people's feelings towards this update (if you can call it that).
This should be pasted under the initial post really, as it couldn't sum up the thoughts of this thread in a better way.

So, they've fixed a couple of bugs, and Budgered Budger? Poor Raptors.

mlandry

mlandry

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms View Post
z-quests have changed from Jennur's Horde and Urgoz to Destructive Depths (again) and Mage of the Sands (again) post update.

Also... I thought the point of those res orbs in AB was to bring a shrine NPCs back to life. I mean, other then that those things are completely impratical (most players respawn by the time you can run into range and drop). I can't believe that was a bug.
I know. Why even have them anymore?

Coraline Jones

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Modified Soul Society

Mo/R

I don't get how people were abusing rez orbs in AB. I mean, it's not like there's an infinite supply of them.

Since it got nerfed, can somebody explain to me how people were apparently churning out millions of free NPCs?

Martin Kerstein

Martin Kerstein

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zodiac Meteor View Post
So... RoJ bug is still untouched but the Ghost Bird farming got nerfed? Plus you don't know when a skill balance will be?

Shame...
We are looking at RoJ, we will change RoJ, and we also look at other skills at the moment - and when we say we cannot discuss time lines, than that is exactly what it means: we cannot discuss timelines.

The reason for this: Things change/ need a second pass/ need more QA

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos View Post
If ANet have no clue when it will be released, I'm assuming it's not happening.
Not disussing timelines in public is not the same as not knowing

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Apollo Smile View Post
ITT, uninformed people act surprised.
In this quote: Misinformed person trying to act smart.

If you're talking about the skill update, please tell me where Regina or anyone else informed us that the skill update was going to be delayed. Until then, I suggest you actually know what you're talking about before you try and be a smartass, thanks.

Quote:
Not disussing timelines in public is not the same as not knowing
Thought she meant that you can't discuss it because you guys didn't know when it would be released. Thanks for clearing it up, though.

Ec]-[oMaN

Ec]-[oMaN

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Ont.

[DT][pT][jT][Grim][Nion]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms View Post
And they said "they can't release info" not "there is no skill update planned." And everything is a sign GW is "dying" to you people. Shove it.
Info could also be seen as even pertaining to there BEING a balance update this month.
Regina still hasn't denied or confirmed one will take place.

God of Tempest

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2008

We The Forgotten Tryst [WTF]

A/

I'm getting pretty tired of not having a skill update without warning. This particular example, however, is much worse than the rest. No reason given, no expected date, nothing.

Puebert

Puebert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Kerstein View Post
We are looking at RoJ, we will change RoJ, and we also look at other skills at the moment - and when we say we cannot discuss time lines, than that is exactly what it means: we cannot discuss timelines.

The reason for this: Things change/ need a second pass/ need more QA



Not disussing timelines in public is not the same as not knowing
Eh, figured RoJ would.
...Why wouldn't you be able to discuss timelines?

mlandry

mlandry

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zodiac Meteor View Post
So... RoJ bug is still untouched but the Ghost Bird farming got nerfed? Plus you don't know when a skill balance will be?

Shame...
Oh, so the bug IS know. It happened to me twice in a row and no one in my alliance knew about it so I sent ANet an email about it a while back, support told me they would look into it but never got another response. Fighting Kuunavang and suddenly standing in a RoJ after a cutscene hurts (I assume that's what you mean by bug).

Hope it gets fixed, although I am done with HM Cantha.

Stolen Souls

Stolen Souls

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Pretty much exactly what I expected....minor tweaks here and there, no skill update, people that made themselves believe there'd be a skill update today complaining that there's no skill update. ^_^

FengShuiDove

FengShuiDove

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA]

A/

Kegs nerfed, HB farming nerfed.

Nooooot so excited about this one. Oh well, gives me the chance to break out A/Me perma again and still win Vaettirs (for now at least).

sup bruh its sam

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2009

Mo/A

what i think is really funny is they say they are going to do updates for pvp love, but yet not a single skill update, but just press b warriors running weaken knees. hmm not op? its like why do they even bother lying? I am really surprised they still have their jobs with the economy being so bad.

Ghost Dog

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

W/

Hmmmm I don't care I want them to work on gw2.

The shit isn't done yet, and when it is done you will all pick it apart and bitch all the same anyway why even bother anymore?

Honestly, some of you expect so damn much and yet I bet you aren't even the giving type.

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Puebert View Post
Eh, figured RoJ would.
...Why wouldn't you be able to discuss timelines?
They're working on stuff but they haven't committed to get it finished by X day because GW2 is more important.

Rasco

Rasco

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2009

Mo/

Here i repost: Wonder if Nicholas the traveller gifts were reset? I mean the zquests were.

Martin Kerstein

Martin Kerstein

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by sup bruh its sam View Post
what i think is really funny is they say they are going to do updates for pvp love, but yet not a single skill update, but just press b warriors running weaken knees. hmm not op? its like why do they even bother lying? I am really surprised they still have their jobs with the economy being so bad.
It might be possible that when Linsey says "we want to do PvP love" that she is talking about something that we want to do in the future/coming months. It does not mean "immediately"

Taixen

Taixen

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

England

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by mlandry View Post
Oh, so the bug IS know. It happened to me twice in a row and no one in my alliance knew about it so I sent ANet an email about it a while back, support told me they would look into it but never got another response. Fighting Kuunavang and suddenly standing in a RoJ after a cutscene hurts (I assume that's what you mean by bug).

Hope it gets fixed, although I am done with HM Cantha.
The bug is that enemies do not recognise it as AoE so will just stand around in it whilst they're killed.

Although the thing you mentioned about standing in a RoJ after the cutscene is fun.

MMSDome

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

No skill balance? Waste of update.

Chicken Ftw

Chicken Ftw

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Puebert View Post
...Why wouldn't you be able to discuss timelines?
Probably for one of two reasons: One, their best guess is a time far enough off to anger more players... or two, they just have no idea.

glacialphoenix

glacialphoenix

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2008

Singapore

Royal Order of Flying Lemmings [ROFL]

Mo/

Quote:
Res Orbs no longer res NPCs in Alliance Battles
I thought that was the POINT of Rezorbs...

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Kerstein View Post
We are looking at RoJ, we will change RoJ,
PvE/PvP split please.
The skill is to pretty to die.

Rasco

Rasco

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2009

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Kerstein View Post
We are looking at RoJ, we will change RoJ, and we also look at other skills at the moment - and when we say we cannot discuss time lines, than that is exactly what it means: we cannot discuss timelines.

The reason for this: Things change/ need a second pass/ need more QA



Not disussing timelines in public is not the same as not knowing
Lets hope shadow form is included and many more. Good sign. Ill take a delay for this.

sup bruh its sam

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2009

Mo/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Kerstein View Post
It might be possible that when Linsey says "we want to do PvP love" that she is talking about something that we want to do in the future/coming months. It does not mean "immediately"
i understand that things take time, but just press b, anet spent so much time nerfing reapers mark, but then they made a skill -5 degen 14 dmg every time you move for only 5 energy 10 sec recharge. Its just dumb, no wonder most of the people quit this game.

FengShuiDove

FengShuiDove

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA]

A/

P.S. What is the deal with late game items at the GToB Merch? Not seeing any change there.

Puebert

Puebert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chicken Ftw View Post
Probably for one of two reasons: One, their best guess is a time far enough off to anger more players... or two, they just have no idea.
I think people will be more pissed to find out the update isn't happening the day of instead of 1-2 weeks in advance.

Quote:
Originally Posted by FengShuiDove View Post
P.S. What is the deal with late game items at the GToB Merch? Not seeing any change there.
Means exp salvage id kit.

Use the edit button, don't double post.

Snograt

Snograt

rattus rattus

Join Date: Jan 2006

London, UK GMT??0 ??1hr DST

[GURU]GW [wiki]GW2

R/

Do me a favour - can you guys on the cutting edge of exploitment tell me what the next exploit farm will be? Every time I decide to try one of these things, they nerf it - I want to be bang on time for the next one

jimme

jimme

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Netherlands

Mo/

"Ehh guys, we messed up and didn't think about a skill balance..."
"Just tell them were doing back end stuff"

Tramp

Tramp

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2008

Mo/

I say nerf every skill until there are no more fun builds left. Omg...some people might actually have fun raping some monsters and getting some worthless golds?!?!? Silly times have arrive at gw. Who really cares if keg farming was going on? People were actually farming some craptacular 600g golds? Millionaires... all of them must be millionaires! After an hour of kegging I was so bored I never went back, but for the first hour I had a blast blowing the snot out of those things. Now just nerf ROJ and shadow form and cry of pain and {fill in the blank} so people cant get rich having fun with guildies doing other farming runs getting the 600g unid golds, onyx and diamonds out the whazoo, and other junky drops. Nothing is worth farming anymore really. At first I thought, they really should nerf some of these skills, now... a few months later, I feel who really cares. If people are having fun, let them do it. Its a game, people want to pwn some stuff. Who cares? I kind of feel sorry for new players in the game. Us old timers had some good times and made some money back when items were worth something. Now anet nerfs anything and everything and gives us z-grind for 20 slot bags at 2500 copper coins. My days of caring are gone, but I can understand any QQ that other people have.

ecro x

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2009

Gladiators Dawn [Pro]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghost Dog View Post
Hmmmm I don't care I want them to work on gw2.

The shit isn't done yet, and when it is done you will all pick it apart and bitch all the same anyway why even bother anymore?

Honestly, some of you expect so damn much and yet I bet you aren't even the giving type.


i hope you know there is a gw live team & a gw2 team, so i mean one set works on gw2 , one team is supposed to work on "balancing"/bugs gw

and yeah whats the point of the orbs in ab now? usless lol
keg farming was overpowered, gj finally nerfing it
thank god for The Treasure Hunter and Wisdom title now counting

mostly a pointless update to think we got new skills and z keys, i think anet is actualy trying to get people to quit gw

sup bruh its sam

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2009

Mo/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by ecro x View Post
i hope you know there is a gw live team & a gw2 team, so i mean one set works on gw2 , one team is supposed to work on "balancing"/bugs gw

and yeah whats the point of the orbs in ab now? usless lol
keg farming was overpowered, gj finally nerfing it
thank god for The Treasure Hunter and Wisdom title now counting

mostly a pointless update to think we got new skills and z keys, i think anet is actualy trying to get people to quit gw
my thoughts exactly, since there is no monthly fee, they try to ruin guildwars so less people per server=less they have to pay to maintain it.

Phenixfire

Phenixfire

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Malice Dedication Ambition [MAD]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tramp View Post
I say nerf every skill until there are no more fun builds left. Omg...some people might actually have fun raping some monsters and getting some worthless golds?!?!? Silly times have arrive at gw. Who really cares if keg farming was going on? People were actually farming some craptacular 600g golds? Millionaires... all of them must be millionaires! After an hour of kegging I was so bored I never went back, but for the first hour I had a blast blowing the snot out of those things. Now just nerf ROJ and shadow form and cry of pain and {fill in the blank} so people cant get rich having fun with guildies doing other farming runs getting the 600g unid golds, onyx and diamonds out the whazoo, and other junky drops. Nothing is worth farming anymore really. At first I thought, they really should nerf some of these skills, now... a few months later, I feel who really cares. If people are having fun, let them do it. Its a game, people want to pwn some stuff. Who cares? I kind of feel sorry for new players in the game. Us old timers had some good times and made some money back when items were worth something. Now anet nerfs anything and everything and gives us z-grind for 20 slot bags at 2500 copper coins. My days of caring are gone, but I can understand any QQ that other people have.
Wall of text crits you for 5325217325913510 dmg. Armor ignoring.





It's about game balance, your argument would go for gold farmers then, too.
Enhancing diversity, rewarding smart play style, erasing methods of getting the things you want too fast and keeping 'em playing that way. Only three arguments why to kill unbalanced stuff.

dusanyu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

Illusion of skillz [Iz]

W/E

nice to see Skill changes are being tested Well now i give back retracted icy points Please Spend more QA time on some of the updated Elites that have been added over the past Few months like WK (how that passed any QA is beyond me) movement Punishment is one thing but Topping that with Ungodly Degen and you have a broken skill. LC and a fewe more of the Hexes need a looking (the Strength of some of these hexes in dammage over time should come with a Per use Drawback like mirror Degen on the user or a Life Sac)

Professor K

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2009

Mo/A

Glad they have their sights locked on ROJ. Even if the skill balance is later, i'll be glad for it to be "adjusted".

Also lol keg bombing.

Axel Zinfandel

Axel Zinfandel

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Northeastern Ohio

LaZy

P/W

Forget these other people.... As long as you do a GOOD skill update, I'd RATHER you guys take more time in doing it at this point

and please for love of god do something about buffing ele nuking in endgame / HM

angelsarc

angelsarc

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos View Post
No one ever said the skill balance was going to be delayed, only the points.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...&postcount=122

I can't find any confirmation on her wiki page, though.

Helix Dreadlock

Helix Dreadlock

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2009

Imperial Sanctum

Legendary Drunken Masters [DUI]

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Black Metal View Post
Curious what 'late-game items' are, and how they are acquired

I believe the higher end salvage kits, and things only offered by merchs at areas like perdition rock

sup bruh its sam

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2009

Mo/A

IMO nerf/change: mantra of resolve(vor mesmers have a field day bcuz they can get everything off)
weaken knees (read the skill if you have any questions)
ether prism runners( press b if you have any questions)
mb eles (press b if you have any questions)
ganking in halls (basically the same as ladder manipulation)
bspike (so pvers cant get champ title for HoM)