Extreme Makeover: Include Name Change

Xitoahc

Xitoahc

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

NYC

Kingdom of the Sixth Aspect [KSA]

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It's a bit silly to be able switch your toons gender but be stuck with the old name, which most of the time would be unfitting for the changed gender. It currently costs 25$ if you decide to buy both the name change and makeover which is a bit extreme for just an aesthetic change.

Please bump up the cost to 15$(same as Name Change) and add this option to the 'Extreme Makeover' pack.

Evil Eye

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2007

P/Me

Or you could just be happy with your original character and stop bitching about everything.

Khyr Lord of Kaoz

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2009

Tasmania

House of Kaoz

N/R

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Originally Posted by Xitoahc View Post
It's a bit silly to be able switch your toons gender but be stuck with the old name, which most of the time would be unfitting for the changed gender. It currently costs 25$ if you decide to buy both the name change and makeover which is a bit extreme for just an aesthetic change.

Please bump up the cost to 15$(same as Name Change) and add this option to the 'Extreme Makeover' pack.
I agree with this. If you want to change gender, it should include a name change for the price as well. I don't think I'd like a female character named Khyr Lord of Kaoz. lol

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Originally Posted by Evil Eye View Post
Or you could just be happy with your original character and stop bitching about everything.
By this logic, Anet would have wasted a lot of money in the new upgrades, which people, apparently, DO use.

If you're a roleplayer, what your character looks and feels like can make a big difference to the game. You're happy with your character, that's great. But don't assume that everyone is, or everyone plays the same way you do. I think you'll find an awful lot of people have used the option to breathe new life into old characters. Not all players care, but there's nothing wrong with caring.

russiansteven

russiansteven

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Join Date: Jun 2008

In a chair

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Originally Posted by Khyr Lord of Kaoz View Post
By this logic, Anet would have wasted a lot of money in the new upgrades, which people, apparently, DO use.

If you're a roleplayer, what your character looks and feels like can make a big difference to the game. You're happy with your character, that's great. But don't assume that everyone is, or everyone plays the same way you do. I think you'll find an awful lot of people have used the option to breathe new life into old characters. Not all players care, but there's nothing wrong with caring.

Just ignore the other people who say "wow how stupid" or that other kind of stuff. Anyways, I also agree but how about the people who have already bought the extreme makeover pack, will they be able to get a name change as well?

gremlin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

GWAR

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Khyr Lord of Kaoz View Post
By this logic, Anet would have wasted a lot of money in the new upgrades, which people, apparently, DO use.

If you're a roleplayer, what your character looks and feels like can make a big difference to the game. You're happy with your character, that's great. But don't assume that everyone is, or everyone plays the same way you do. I think you'll find an awful lot of people have used the option to breathe new life into old characters. Not all players care, but there's nothing wrong with caring.
I agree if your of a roleplaying mindset then name and look does mean a lot.
It would make sense for the gender change to include a name change.

That said I really don't see why anyone would need some of these changes, I mean just how many hours play is needed to decide that the gender or name of the character is wrong.
I recon I restarted several characters within an hour at most because I didnt like the look of the character.

Hated male necro so went female that took me about 5 minutes, hated some of the dances and again restarted character.
Name changes well there I am fussy and take ages to pick a name so am usually happy.
But if you have a character well advanced in the game and now want to change then I understand your reasoning.

Hairstyle however I would want to do but its just not worth it when I will be moving to GW2 soon enough.

Fuzzie

Fuzzie

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Join Date: Jul 2008

Mo/

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Totally agree on this. Gender changes can be quite costly without it.
At least add a discount onto name changes.

Gender + name change pack-- 20$



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Originally Posted by Evil Eye View Post
Or you could just be happy with your original character and stop bitching about everything.
Don't feed the hungry trolls. v.v

Helix Dreadlock

Helix Dreadlock

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2009

Imperial Sanctum

Legendary Drunken Masters [DUI]

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Just buy both?

They gave us the option to get both, just buy both and quit QQ'ing, or make a new character, it's a pointless thread, really.

Fuzzie

Fuzzie

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2008

Mo/

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Originally Posted by Helix Dreadlock View Post
Just buy both?

They gave us the option to get both, just buy both and quit QQ'ing, or make a new character, it's a pointless thread, really.
Thanks for your opinion. But really its a suggestion thread, something we feel that should be implemented. More the less, every thread is a bunch of QQ.

johnny tutone

johnny tutone

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Join Date: Apr 2009

california

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Helix Dreadlock View Post
Just buy both?

They gave us the option to get both, just buy both and quit QQ'ing, or make a new character, it's a pointless thread, really.
uggh i remember i used to post in threads just to be a jerk...but wow am i glad i stopped this guy is quite annoying,, anywho id agree with this seeing as i have a female ele now named hard as can be lolol

headlesshobbs

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

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Originally Posted by Helix Dreadlock View Post
Just buy both?

They gave us the option to get both, just buy both and quit QQ'ing, or make a new character, it's a pointless thread, really.
My hate for these types is generally within reason and this is one of the best examples.

Fuzzie

Fuzzie

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Join Date: Jul 2008

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Originally Posted by headlesshobbs View Post
My hate for these types is generally within reason and this is one of the best examples.
Trolling is a easy way to gain attention without much reason or thought

anyways this thread is getting a lil off topic.

Anduin

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Join Date: Jul 2006

Ice Dragon Berserker Lodge

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He can't even be bothered to use real words (like crying). so why bother replying to him?

Kook~NBK~

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Join Date: Mar 2005

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It makes sense to me, as a player. I'll never change any of my characters, but it would be wierd having a male character named Chanti Beppu.

But it may not make the BEST business sense for A-Net. Dunno.

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

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Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xitoahc View Post
It's a bit silly to be able switch your toons gender but be stuck with the old name, which most of the time would be unfitting for the changed gender. It currently costs 25$ if you decide to buy both the name change and makeover which is a bit extreme for just an aesthetic change.

Please bump up the cost to 15$(same as Name Change) and add this option to the 'Extreme Makeover' pack.
You are digging your own grave by supporting the micro-transaction/buying micro-transaction. If no one buys them, it will be change, if players continue to pour money in, it will remain.

Tender Wolf

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This isn't a bad idea actually. I agree that $15 is way too high for a name change on one character. If it was for 5 characters like the regular makeover credits, great. But for just one? Um...no...

It wouldn't be a bad idea to include it in the extreme makeover, but what if you just wanted a name change and not a gender one? You'd have spent money on something you only wanted half of. At the very least if the name change only works for one character, make it like $5 instead of $15. And while we're at it, I think the $10 is reasonable for 5 regular makeover credits, as that's 5 characters you can "remake". $10 for one extreme credit is too high in my book. But in conclusion, I'd prefer if both makeover credits included the name change feature; they lower the price of the name change to $5, $10 tops; or the $15 name change charge includes 5 characters like the makeover credits.

caballo_oscuro

caballo_oscuro

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2008

Aura

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Originally Posted by gremlin View Post
I agree if your of a roleplaying mindset then name and look does mean a lot.
It would make sense for the gender change to include a name change.

That said I really don't see why anyone would need some of these changes, I mean just how many hours play is needed to decide that the gender or name of the character is wrong.
I recon I restarted several characters within an hour at most because I didnt like the look of the character.

Hated male necro so went female that took me about 5 minutes, hated some of the dances and again restarted character.
Name changes well there I am fussy and take ages to pick a name so am usually happy.
But if you have a character well advanced in the game and now want to change then I understand your reasoning.

Hairstyle however I would want to do but its just not worth it when I will be moving to GW2 soon enough.
Not everybody is like you, some people do recreate their characters, but some peop-le simply love the character they first create and then get bored. It makes sense allowing them to modify the look of their characters for a reasonable proce.

/signed definitely on including optional namechange with extreme makeover


Oh and as for moving to GW2, you're probably not familiar with the annual financial reports released the end of last year showing that GW2's planned release date is looking to be at least 2 years away, if not more. So if that's soon enough, are you still getting plenty of use out of pacman/space invaders? good investment

gremlin

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Join Date: Oct 2006

GWAR

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by caballo_oscuro View Post
Not everybody is like you, some people do recreate their characters, but some peop-le simply love the character they first create and then get bored. It makes sense allowing them to modify the look of their characters for a reasonable proce.

/signed definitely on including optional namechange with extreme makeover


Oh and as for moving to GW2, you're probably not familiar with the annual financial reports released the end of last year showing that GW2's planned release date is looking to be at least 2 years away, if not more. So if that's soon enough, are you still getting plenty of use out of pacman/space invaders? good investment
Its precisely my roleplaying that prevents me from making changes other than hairstyle and why I am very careful when making a character.

If I create a character of one gender getting bored and changing to the opposite gender and name isn't an option.
There has to be a role playing reason for everything in my gaming universe.

Prices are too steep though and I assume that's to make people carefully consider changes and not change on a frequent whim.

Khyr Lord of Kaoz

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Join Date: Jun 2009

Tasmania

House of Kaoz

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Originally Posted by pumpkin pie View Post
You are digging your own grave by supporting the micro-transaction/buying micro-transaction. If no one buys them, it will be change, if players continue to pour money in, it will remain.
I disagree. You're digging your own grave by NOT supporting the games and companies you like. I happily spend money on micro purchases. It's not digging a grave, it's building a future.

A lot of people seem to have the opinion, I've seen it a lot of times, that game companies are "rich", because a lot of people play them. But those same people don't know about game company's expenses, payroll, rent, electricity, advertising, shipping, programming, all sorts of things. Even if a million people buy your game, it's not a huge profit. Wake up and smell the coffee.

GW is a game that's free to play. If they want to make a couple of extra bucks to support programmers who add content, fix bugs, or whatever, I'm all for it.

Pistachio

Pistachio

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/R

It's totally logical to ask for a name change included in an extreme makeover. Also, considering it would be $25 total to switch the gender and name of a single character(if you don't have a gender neutral name), I think it is a perfectly reasonable to ask this be made more equitable.

gremlin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

GWAR

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Khyr Lord of Kaoz View Post
I disagree. You're digging your own grave by NOT supporting the games and companies you like. I happily spend money on micro purchases. It's not digging a grave, it's building a future.

A lot of people seem to have the opinion, I've seen it a lot of times, that game companies are "rich", because a lot of people play them. But those same people don't know about game company's expenses, payroll, rent, electricity, advertising, shipping, programming, all sorts of things. Even if a million people buy your game, it's not a huge profit. Wake up and smell the coffee.

GW is a game that's free to play. If they want to make a couple of extra bucks to support programmers who add content, fix bugs, or whatever, I'm all for it.
Quite True
There is a lot of money made in the gaming industry though a lot of it is in console games rather than computer versions.

The companies that write the games are frequently quite small and they are often writing the game for another bigger development company that then markets the games.
Those small companies are by no means rich and its very hard for them to find resources to keep working on games that are basically done with and already on sale.
At least that's what I have read.

The add ons cost what they cost and that's all there is to it, GW is quite an odd game in this respect its had more fixes add ons and improvements than any dozen previous games I can think of.
It may be common practice in this type of game but not elsewhere

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

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Join Date: Jul 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Khyr Lord of Kaoz View Post
I disagree. You're digging your own grave by NOT supporting the games and companies you like. I happily spend money on micro purchases. It's not digging a grave, it's building a future.
I am not digging a grave, NCSoft is the 8th biggest venture in Korea there's not enough spade I can use to dig a grave fast enough for them.

Besides, changing the sex of ones character and expect them not to want to change the name and expecting them to pay another amount is a trap. Anyone that is so picky/particular, until they need and want to change the looks and sex of their characters wouldn't be caught dead running around in the game with a female character with a masculine name or a male character name Mona? Seriously.

However, its totally okay to keep the name change only function.

Its common sense that sex change should comes with a name change, you are not supporting the game, you are happily getting trap.

There's a line between loving a game and willingly letting them trap you.

Not only is this idea of including name change with extreme makeover a good idea, it would probably boost the sale of the extreme makeover pack. How many players wanted to change their character name, read the thread here on guru to find out, but because the name change is nothing else but name change, i am sure lots of players don't bother buying it, after all, we can always create another one with the right name and features. However, if name change comes with extreme makeover, that is another case.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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A gender change doesn't imply a name change.

There are many unisex names.

And name changes can be made only once per month, while gender changes almost anytime you (can pay and) want.

Xitoahc

Xitoahc

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

NYC

Kingdom of the Sixth Aspect [KSA]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by MithranArkanere View Post
A gender change doesn't imply a name change.

There are many unisex names.

And name changes can be made only once per month, while gender changes almost anytime you (can pay and) want.
Who would really switch around their gender more than once a month though?

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

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Hm... a frog?

euphoracle

euphoracle

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Forever Knights

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The only reason I have yet to buy an extreme token is because I don't want to pay for a name change after. Why wouldn't they include it? The extreme token is already a single use... Not much value there lol.

|pyro|

|pyro|

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Khyr Lord of Kaoz View Post
If you're a roleplayer, what your character looks and feels like can make a big difference to the game. You're happy with your character, that's great. But don't assume that everyone is, or everyone plays the same way you do. I think you'll find an awful lot of people have used the option to breathe new life into old characters. Not all players care, but there's nothing wrong with caring.
You can like chose how you char will look like when you create it, it is not some random madness in creating a character.

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

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Join Date: Jul 2006

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bumble bee

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Quote:
Originally Posted by MithranArkanere View Post
A gender change doesn't imply a name change.

There are many unisex names.

And name changes can be made only once per month, while gender changes almost anytime you (can pay and) want.

Hence, name change and sex change token should be cheaper

and Extreme Makeover should include everything

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

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Makes sense for OP's reasons, really.

It's not something I intend to buy, because I'm not eager to spend money on that (bonus missions are another story altogether) but it seems quite a reasonable request, and if I ever did decide to change my character in that way, I'd want that option.

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Originally Posted by Xitoahc View Post
Who would really switch around their gender more than once a month though?
Were it not for the cost, I'd probably change my character's appearance and gender constantly for the entertainment.

(Actually if they had some sort of permanent unlock, I'd probably take that, because hey, that'd actually be worth it.)