Well as you all know RoJ will now cause scatter, and cry of pain is half degen damage which is a lot less and won't stack.
So, now comes the time to start figuring out quicker ways of killing all the monsters.
An idea would be for rojers/cryers to run ice imp for the deep freeze potential. That way they will be slowed and still have to stay in the RoJ aoe longer. There is also the fragility concept which may be a bit harder to pull off depending on the situation.
Anyways here we can brainstorm ideas on how to optimize the vsf run after these nerfs.
VSF ideas after nerf.
MercenaryKnight
Menlai Littiz
actually it said "Heroes are more likely to scatter" not sure if this still applies to Mobs... please tell us if anyone has tested?
Apok Omen
I heard Deep Freeze + AoE still works!!!! Wasn't that the initial build?
zwei2stein
You can still run one cryer, one DF snare and several rojers.
Me/E cryer/snare - Deep Freeze / Fragility / Cry / Accumulated Pain / Fewered Dreams / Hypochondria / Gole
Mo/N Roj/Enfeebling Blood/Signet of Agony/Chilblains/Plague Sendinng
Mo/E Roj/Shell Shock/Blinding Flash
Mo/Me Roj/Signet of Infection/Technobable/Aecho
Mo/Me Roj/ YMLAD / Aecho
Can work.
Perma can that Crystal & Crystal to help out, but that would require Bip necro to power him and make run harder, but that necro can carry conditions, se he will get some use and place of Mo/N rojer.
Me/E cryer/snare - Deep Freeze / Fragility / Cry / Accumulated Pain / Fewered Dreams / Hypochondria / Gole
Mo/N Roj/Enfeebling Blood/Signet of Agony/Chilblains/Plague Sendinng
Mo/E Roj/Shell Shock/Blinding Flash
Mo/Me Roj/Signet of Infection/Technobable/Aecho
Mo/Me Roj/ YMLAD / Aecho
Can work.
Perma can that Crystal & Crystal to help out, but that would require Bip necro to power him and make run harder, but that necro can carry conditions, se he will get some use and place of Mo/N rojer.
dusanyu
at one time was this not done using Ele aoe skills and meteor shower and Brambles
greyhawk
this was easy fast run with any AoE spells before everyone started cry roj, not hard to keep doing
ajc2123
What about SearingFlames....doesnt cuase scatter ^_^
zwei2stein
Roj is still better because it is armor ignoring.
However, MS could fit right in now just to keep stuff in AoE, but that can be done on one RoJ
Mo/E Roj, Glyph Of Sacrifice, MS. 12+1+1 smite, 12 fire. just to keep stuff down really.
However, MS could fit right in now just to keep stuff in AoE, but that can be done on one RoJ
Mo/E Roj, Glyph Of Sacrifice, MS. 12+1+1 smite, 12 fire. just to keep stuff down really.
Mr.Kotte
I'm pretty sure it only stated that heroes are more likely to scatter from RoJ - Not enemies.
Dr.Greatshot
Gladiator
Yup, RoJ definitely scatters mobs. Just tried it - they scatter like hell.
Edit: In UW too, and regardless of the size of the mob.
Edit: In UW too, and regardless of the size of the mob.
rkubik
Just heard some chat in Umbral about it. I guess Firestorm is the way to go.
Marverick
Take a W/E with Dragon Stomp and Stonefist's Insignia? :P
Teknikaali
Snow Stormer LFP VSF. Wat.
This time it looks like Thommis is going to get a flu because of cold..
This time it looks like Thommis is going to get a flu because of cold..
ajc2123
So searing flames is a no no?
Im sure with the right skills any class can use it, its just that Eles will do it better.
Im sure with the right skills any class can use it, its just that Eles will do it better.
Shayne Hawke
I don't know why any of you continue to claim that Heroes were the only ones affected by the AI changes.
Quote:
Originally Posted by GW Game Update Notes
Quote:
The following AI updates apply to Heroes and Hard Mode NPCs.
GhostKairi
Glyph Of Renewl+Echo Nuker,
Deep Freezer,
Knock Down,
-Damage-,
-Damage-,
Monk,
Ranger/Rt,
Perma Tank
GG?
Deep Freezer,
Knock Down,
-Damage-,
-Damage-,
Monk,
Ranger/Rt,
Perma Tank
GG?
MercenaryKnight
I wonder if every damage character just brings ice imps if it will be enough without the need of a glyph of renewal deep freeze elementalist.
Perhaps instead of that you could use the ele skill that will cause knockdown if enemies are moving quicker than normal? Glyph of renewal that with no slow downs and you should be able to keep them perma knocked down.
Could also get the ranger or ritualist to bring earthbind to extend the knockdown period?
Perhaps instead of that you could use the ele skill that will cause knockdown if enemies are moving quicker than normal? Glyph of renewal that with no slow downs and you should be able to keep them perma knocked down.
Could also get the ranger or ritualist to bring earthbind to extend the knockdown period?
Black Metal
the main build before RoJ was one sin runner, 2 monks, the rest eles. One ele has deep freeze, all have savannah heat echoed with meteor storm, need a good caller
Hatchet Child
Several Cryers and a Fevered Dreams player carrying YMLAD and Finish him.
Several Cryers will get them down to half hp Fevered Pops Finish him. gg
Several Cryers will get them down to half hp Fevered Pops Finish him. gg
germanturkey
i miss the heats + MS days. like, day 5 of VSF. and yeah, RoJ scatters everything. though its still fun to see god rays destroy everything.