Bots or Stupid People?

Ultimate Warrior

Ultimate Warrior

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Canada

LS

W/Mo

I do lots of farming, and one of my farming areas is outside of augury. When I go back to the town there is almost always someone that comes up to me and says "you buy?". If I whisper they wont respond and if I close trade with them they follow me around until I leave. I was wondering if these are bots or just really stupid people.

chris_nin00

chris_nin00

Dun dun dun

Join Date: Aug 2005

Reddit Guild

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They are Koreans and the sort
They don't understand what you type.

I wouldn't call'em stupid

houndofhell93

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

any where i think of

i will tell u if i think it wise

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im leaning towards really stupid noob ppl that dont know how to wisper or any thing. just when they do this put in 1 gold or a shatty item if it is even worth ur time if its a bot it might accept that item... maby it wil discurage it a little bit =)

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

They are bots. I have had these come up to me several times, and every once in a while if you offer a crazy low price they'll actually accept it.

houndofhell93

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

any where i think of

i will tell u if i think it wise

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or maby they are coreans but how would they play on our servers instead of theres. only other thin for them to be there would be u ar in a internatinal disterict... o ya if they are korean how would they type in english if they didn't understand it......

Ultimate Warrior

Ultimate Warrior

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Canada

LS

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by houndofhell93
or maby they are coreans but how would they play on our servers instead of theres. only other thin for them to be there would be u ar in a internatinal disterict... o ya if they are korean how would they type in english if they didn't understand it......
You can change ur territory when you log in(where you play). And you can change the language in options.

AxeMe

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Atlanta

HEX

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They're Korean farmers, not bots (if you mean, by bot, an automated program). I doubt that you meant to imply they are stupid because they can't understand English, unless you would argue that English speakers who don't speak Korean are stupid.

Ultimate Warrior

Ultimate Warrior

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Canada

LS

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by AxeMe
They're Korean farmers, not bots (if you mean, by bot, an automated program). I doubt that you meant to imply they are stupid because they can't understand English, unless you would argue that English speakers who don't speak Korean are stupid.
No I am talking about English people, who are messed up in the head. If they are Korean they should go back to their own districts.

Vhayr

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Malice Nights [MN]

A/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultimate Warrior
No I am talking about English people, who are messed up in the head. If they are Korean they should go back to their own districts.

Sk8tborderx

Sk8tborderx

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

PA

Us Are Not [leet]

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I am pretty sure some of them are not real people. Just to see if they were I stayed up for 3 days in the same district and kept gettin trade offers and the question "you buy?" from the same bot. I even added the bot to my friends list and was on everytime and in the same place. I bought a lot of gold unidentified items from one and now i get a lot of pms having to do with buying gold online.

Ultimate Warrior

Ultimate Warrior

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Canada

LS

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vhayr
Does my statement offend you? If they are english and cant respond to private messages then there is something wrong with them or they are way too lazy.

Vhayr

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Malice Nights [MN]

A/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultimate Warrior
Does my statement offend you? If they are english and cant respond to private messages then there is something wrong with them or they are way too lazy.
I was looking at the second part, just surprised me that you think everybody should stay in their native districts.

AxeMe

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Atlanta

HEX

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vhayr
I was looking at the second part, just surprised me that you think everybody should stay in their native districts.
I had the same reaction ... I've never understood that kind of thinking. The whole beauty of the Internet and of games that you play on it is the fact that it is worldwide.

ling43235

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

Korean farmers don't bother me, English-speaking scammers do. In fact, Korean famrers' prices are actually pretty reasonable. The fact they don't speak English well mean they cannot sweet talk you into a bad deal. Just my 2 cents.

Ultimate Warrior

Ultimate Warrior

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Canada

LS

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vhayr
I was looking at the second part, just surprised me that you think everybody should stay in their native districts.
Well if they cant speak english why are they there? I dont think that EVERYONE should stay in their own district. But if you cant understand the language of the district, simply dont go there.

AxeMe

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Atlanta

HEX

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultimate Warrior
Well if they cant speak english why are they there? I dont think that EVERYONE should stay in their own district. But if you cant understand the language of the district, simply dont go there.
Just curious ... do you think that Americans should stay out of countries where they don't speak the language? There would be a lot fewer tourists in France each year, smile.

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

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Try International Ascalon lol.

I get no less than 5 people running up to me right as a i login and PMing me with "What weapon you buy?"

Its great if your looking for some weapons. They ARE quite reasonable. But it gets annoying if you don't want anything :\

Sad that a good percentage of the people that do that are sweatshop farmers making money to sell on Ebay for their employors. Thats why their reasonable with prices. They got ALOT of junk to get rid of, they wont fight over 5-10k.

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Also, sometimes the big Ebay companies will come to Lion's Arch dist 1 (you know it cause they all have similar names and act like sell bots) - These are fun to mess with.

Go there and type in "WTB 10/10 Sundering String" or some other perfect mod thats worth alot, and see how many PMs you get WITHIN SECONDS from these people just stating the price they sell for, ie. "10/10 20k ok?"

My record has been 9 different people.

Ultimate Warrior

Ultimate Warrior

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Canada

LS

W/Mo

Think of it this way: If you were in another country and a salesman came up to you and only knew two words of english and said "you buy?", and you replied by asking how much it was and he doesnt reply. Now wouldnt you be annoyed?

Vhayr

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Malice Nights [MN]

A/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultimate Warrior
Think of it this way: If you were in another country and a salesman came up to you and only knew two words of english and said "you buy?", and you replied by asking how much it was and he doesnt reply. Now wouldnt you be annoyed?
Yes but then I'd just brush it off, no biggie. If it annoys you that much then just offer 1 gold and you might get lucky. If you don't, oh well.

Ultimate Warrior

Ultimate Warrior

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Canada

LS

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vhayr
Yes but then I'd just brush it off, no biggie. If it annoys you that much then just offer 1 gold and you might get lucky. If you don't, oh well.
Yes I agree with you that if it was only one time it wouldnt matter that much. But this happens to me alot, not just once.

Hell Marauder

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

I prefer an international district filled with annoying peddlers to one that's empty.
And let's not forget we're enjoying a no-monthly fee gaming environment while Asian players are paying monthly fees for playing GW.

Yes, perhaps they should be confined to their home districts, and English-speaking people should all be shipped back to England.

ktadie

ktadie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grotto dis1

Scars Meadows

R/N

wut i dont like about the korean sellers, is that all their items are unidentified....
i really hate gambling lol.
and yea, their prizes are good,
a good place to find many of them: Augery Rock international dis

Fyre Brand

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Shadowlight Order [SoR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultimate Warrior
I do lots of farming, and one of my farming areas is outside of augury. When I go back to the town there is almost always someone that comes up to me and says "you buy?". If I whisper they wont respond and if I close trade with them they follow me around until I leave. I was wondering if these are bots or just really stupid people.
Maybe your appearance just screams "screw with me" because I spend a fair amount of time in Auguary and this never happens to me. The only place this happens to me is Ascalon in the lower numbered trade districts and occasionally in Lions Arch. The last time this happened it was in Piken Square and the guy put four GODLY purple war hammers in the trade window. He did happen to speak pretty damn fluent English as he tried to persuade me that you couldn't get much better hammers than these (you know that nice ram's head skin ). I told him I didn't need those GODLY hammers after which he begged me to run him to Droknar's. You tell me which is the idiot? The guy who irritates you but says nothing, or the guy who just won't shut up and leave you alone.

Stereotypes of any kind are usually a very bad thing. I hope you weren't opening this thread just to start an anti-Asian hate/flame thread because that is kind of what it looks like to me.

Maxiemonster

Maxiemonster

There is no spoon.

Join Date: Jun 2005

Netherlands

Mo/

These are bots. If they say "What weapon do you want to buy?" and you say "Longbow" for example, he'll put in all his Unidentified (always unidentified, the only thing they sell) Longbows and says "25K" for example.

You can screw these guys though, got a full trade window full off required 7-9 weapon for 25K of one of those bots

ktadie

ktadie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grotto dis1

Scars Meadows

R/N

haha lol nice one Maxiemonster

Ultimate Warrior

Ultimate Warrior

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Canada

LS

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fyre Brand
Stereotypes of any kind are usually a very bad thing. I hope you weren't opening this thread just to start an anti-Asian hate/flame thread because that is kind of what it looks like to me.
This has nothing to do with race! I have nothing against Asians, or people of any other race for that matter.

Fungus Amongus

Fungus Amongus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare] | [Rare] Alliance

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultimate Warrior
Think of it this way: If you were in another country and a salesman came up to you and only knew two words of english and said "you buy?", and you replied by asking how much it was and he doesnt reply. Now wouldnt you be annoyed?
I can understand your frustration. In these situations, both parties need to aim towards a simple transaction to yeild any positive result. In your case asking, "how much?" might have been too complicated. Perhaps opening a trade and making an offer could have started a negotiation.

I work in a world reknowned retail business in Miami. On a daily basis I deal with many people I cannot understand through language alone. I have no problem with people who don't speak my language approaching me to purchase our product. Because of this, we are able to form a buyer to seller relationship. My advantage, which can't be expressed in game, is body language and hand signals. If I told them to stay out of my "district" I would not have a job.

As an American, I welcome any and all walks of life. That is what made my country what it is today.

jimmy_logic

jimmy_logic

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

R/

One tried to sell me an Icy Bow String for 5k... I was like yeah right bye... then he reduced to my price...

Regards

GodofAcid

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Massachusetts, USA

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If you're being harassed by bots, send a screenie to support.. it really does work. I was gettin harassed constantly by bots advertising a cash for gold site, sent in a screenie, got a reply within an hour and haven't been bothered by em since

rugal nuker

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

E/Mo

They are not bots,just that they are china or koreans' farmer.they also cant speak english well,so,some of them use broken english such as ''u buy?'' 15k ok?'' ...

LifeInfusion

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

People bots (aka people that dunno english and all they do is play for five cents an hour for a chiense "videogame sweatshop")

Diablo???

Diablo???

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Seattle

SPQR

N/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultimate Warrior
This has nothing to do with race! I have nothing against Asians, or people of any other race for that matter.
I can understand why Ultimate Warriors original statement might come off a bit offensive, but I agree with him. Everyone is free to travel where they wish to go, foreign coutries and wherever. But engaging in foreign activities requires certain knowledge of their culture (or in Guild Wars' case, language and market behaviors). These foreign players are welcome to play in US districts, but if they wish to engage in a conversation with us and couldn't speak a dimes worth of english, they shouldn't expect us to understand them.

I had an experience with one of these foreign player, who couldn't seem to understand the phrase "no thank you, i'm not interested"... the player only knows how to speak "80k ok?" and "f*** yuo amaricans"...

master_ranger_matt

master_ranger_matt

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Salt Lake City, Utah.... no im not mormon

Radicals Against Tyrants [RAT]

R/Me

augury international is a korean farmers market. the bots or players sell solo farmed items and then sell the virtual gold. the unidentified items there are tested so you get crap. there was a thread on this laready, and if i wasnt so lazy i would give you the link.

houndofhell93

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

any where i think of

i will tell u if i think it wise

R/

they are just tards i saw one in droks th other day folowed me around for an hour literly... i think there bots or else they have no life

888 ate 888

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

W/

they can only test the weapon of mods, not bonuses, right?