What do you guys think about increasing name lengths?

YoNkErS 2k5

YoNkErS 2k5

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

New York, USA

Ominous Empire (Oe)

What do you guys think about increasing the characters permitted to create names for characters?

Even by 3-4-5 characters, it would help people like me be able to make good names for there characters and could increase diversity and uniqueness among names, and i doubt it would contribute detrimentally to lag issues?

Let me get your opinion on it.

Nereyda Shoaal

Nereyda Shoaal

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Deldrimor Warcamp

Mo/W

Uuuuuuumm... no
I've got 13 chars every with unique name and not related to the others (Nereida Goes Monk or Nereida Goes Pvp)

I can think of 2-3 names right now and it's nothing senseles (I Like Muffins, I Shall Spear U etc)

It's all down to creativity I think
Reading books, playing RPG helps a lot though

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

I've only run into the problem of too many characters in th creation screen once or twice. There's no shortage of creative names that are 19 or fewer characters long jsut waiting for someone's imagination to discover them.

jiggles

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

N/

Afaik Asians can do it. Down with special treatment!

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

If you don't think players are making good names now, I fail to see how extra, or even less characters would help.

beatdownbob

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2009

hurr durr

hurr durr forums

When the naming policy was recently released, we got these 7 rules to obey.

No names that:-
* Have offensive racial, ethnic, or national connotations.
* Reference sexual acts or real life violence.
* Are pornographic.
* Make inappropriate references to human anatomy or bodily functions.
* Reference illegal drugs or activities.
* Reference major religious figures.
* Reference certain real-life people that may cause distress (e.g. Hitler).

I tried to think of a name that breaks all seven rules. I could not think of one that fits in the space we get, we need longer names.

Though I've not doubt just broken another illogical forum rule.

Phineas

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

UK

I think the only reason for people wanting more space for a name is if they could not work out a way to get the 'phrase' they wanted shortened. Names are not meant to be phrases.

beatdownbob

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2009

hurr durr

hurr durr forums

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phineas View Post
I think the only reason for people wanting more space for a name is if they could not work out a way to get the 'phrase' they wanted shortened. Names are not meant to be phrases.
Perhaps they do indeed.

My actual real name that was given to me when I was born wouldn't fit into a character slot name though... so I tend to disagree with the logic of it.

tasha

tasha

Auctions Mod

Join Date: Jan 2006

UK

Mystic Spiral [MYST]

Would I mind it? No, it would stop me having to put "U" instead of "You" into names.

Will it happen? Database size and developer time says no.

YoNkErS 2k5

YoNkErS 2k5

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

New York, USA

Ominous Empire (Oe)

Many good names are taken, particularly those named after skills, and the only good skill names not taken are too long too fit.

I recently found 3-4 new names that I would love to have, but they don't fit.

I also think not being able to use numbers or punctuaction marks is kind of stupid.

And not all of us like muffins, and not all of our real names fit.

refer

refer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2009

US

I dont' see what the harm could be so I would like it. I have some names where I'd like another space in them.

Pet name is another thing altogether though... way too short.

Targren

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

Primeval Warlords[wuw]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by beatdownbob View Post
When the naming policy was recently released, we got these 7 rules to obey.

No names that:-
* Have offensive racial, ethnic, or national connotations.
* Reference sexual acts or real life violence.
* Are pornographic.
* Make inappropriate references to human anatomy or bodily functions.
* Reference illegal drugs or activities.
* Reference major religious figures.
* Reference certain real-life people that may cause distress (e.g. Hitler).

I tried to think of a name that breaks all seven rules. I could not think of one that fits in the space we get, we need longer names.

Though I've not doubt just broken another illogical forum rule.
Nazijesus Bjsnweed [poop]

Quote:
Pet name is another thing altogether though... way too short.
Agreed. When I got my spider, I wanted to squick out my girlfriend but I didn't have enough spots for "Eggz in ur earz" so I had to go with "Ear eggz". Not nearly as effective.

Abedeus

Abedeus

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Niflheim

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke View Post
If you don't think players are making good names now, I fail to see how extra, or even less characters would help.
Think about languages that are more complicated than English. For instance:

Nameless Hero - 13 letters. That's fine. But in Spanish...

Heroe sin un nombre - 19 letters. Hmm. I don't think that's enough. Even if you remove "un" it's 16 letters. Even then it should be "El Heroe", as in "The Hero".

Or Polish - Bezimienny Bohater - 18 letters. Woah.

Don't forget that gaps also count.

AngelWJedi

AngelWJedi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2008

orlando,florida

Society of Souls [Argh]

Rt/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nereida Shoal View Post
Uuuuuuumm... no
I've got 13 chars every with unique name and not related to the others (Nereida Goes Monk or Nereida Goes Pvp)

I can think of 2-3 names right now and it's nothing senseles (I Like Muffins, I Shall Spear U etc)

It's all down to creativity I think
Reading books, playing RPG helps a lot though
my names are creative and i read books do rpg too! but i have to limit my creativy thanks to the short amount i can name my girls. >> not everyone that wants a longer name will use it to name their chars something weird like i like muffins.

Longasc

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by YoNkErS 2k5 View Post
Many good names are taken, particularly those named after skills, and the only good skill names not taken are too long too fit.

I also think not being able to use numbers or punctuaction marks is kind of stupid.
I personally do not consider YoNkErS 2k5 to be a good name at all. OK, this is the forum and not GW. I also think that not allowing numbers or punctuation marks in character names is a good thing. I also wonder if naming a char after a skill is such a good idea or makes for a good name. Or using phrases for names.

The char name limitations they put in the game were just added to stop such names.

But this did not stop people to come up with even worse names and abbreviations, on the other hand.

nkuvu

nkuvu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phineas View Post
I think the only reason for people wanting more space for a name is if they could not work out a way to get the 'phrase' they wanted shortened.
Or maybe there are names that are longer than the limit.

All of my characters have a Blackthorn surname (not counting some mules). It's simple, I like it, and it's nice to be consistent. But that means I can't choose any first names longer than eight characters. If only I had chosen a shorter surname. I had plans for a character named Cassandra Blackthorn, but that's too long (and I dislike intentionally misspelling the name to fit). I wanted to make a character named Elizabeth... also too long.

That said, while I wouldn't mind a longer character name space, I can't see it changing after four years. Especially since it would probably require some significant database manipuation (increasing the name field for every character for every account? oof).

Martin Alvito

Martin Alvito

Older Than God (1)

Join Date: Aug 2006

Clan Dethryche [dth]

There's a very large number of things I would prefer that limited dev resources be spent upon. The benefit to the community from this change is very low, especially in comparison to problems such as game balance, bug fixes, etc.

Ghost Omel

Ghost Omel

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

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W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Abedeus View Post
Think about languages that are more complicated than English. For instance:

Nameless Hero - 13 letters. That's fine. But in Spanish...

Heroe sin un nombre - 19 letters. Hmm. I don't think that's enough. Even if you remove "un" it's 16 letters. Even then it should be "El Heroe", as in "The Hero".

Or Polish - Bezimienny Bohater - 18 letters. Woah.

Don't forget that gaps also count.
Or Ukranian version os said name

Bez-immenuy Kozak - 17 (i think) or Bez-immenuy Geroi - 17 so yeah i wouldnt mind. and this is after simplification.. without it it would look like this.. Bez-immennuy Geroi Ukrainskogo Narodu.. =)

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Abedeus View Post
Think about languages that are more complicated than English. For instance:

Nameless Hero - 13 letters. That's fine. But in Spanish...

Heroe sin un nombre - 19 letters. Hmm. I don't think that's enough. Even if you remove "un" it's 16 letters. Even then it should be "El Heroe", as in "The Hero".

Or Polish - Bezimienny Bohater - 18 letters. Woah.

Don't forget that gaps also count.
Screw letter counts, I would have to make that name

Bezejmenný Hrdina and loose "ý" in favor of "y"

And while we are at it, you can not use those characters in normal chat, but we actually were able to use accents in past.

The Scorpion Knight

The Scorpion Knight

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2009

Always wondered where the got the random 19 characters lol. Should have just made it an even 20.

ZenRgy

ZenRgy

Zookeeper

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australian Discussion Posse HQ - Glorious leader

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N/E

Defense Chamber
Offense Chamber
Sensory Chamber
Zookeeper Zenrgy

All of those fit, and all of those are the best names ever.

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

Next update.
10€.


Sorry, 9.99€.

Short

Short

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2009

Protectors of Fate [GoF]

N/Me

I would like an increase in name size, 24 perhaps? Even 20, so many characters of mine have had to ahve a name cut short or changed completely because of one letter.

Pistachio

Pistachio

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by beatdownbob View Post
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No names that:-
* Have offensive racial, ethnic, or national connotations.
* Reference sexual acts or real life violence.
* Are pornographic.
* Make inappropriate references to human anatomy or bodily functions.
* Reference illegal drugs or activities.
* Reference major religious figures.
* Reference certain real-life people that may cause distress (e.g. Hitler).

I tried to think of a name that breaks all seven rules. I could not think of one that fits in the space we get, we need longer names.
...
If only I could post what I'm thinking right now.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenRgy
Defense Chamber
Offense Chamber
Sensory Chamber
Zookeeper Zenrgy

All of those fit, and all of those are the best names ever.
Agreed.
There's no reason not to reference Natural Selection in every name you make.

Nanood

Nanood

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Supermans Crystal Palace

Legion Of The Dark Sun

I have managed for 4 years with the current limitation. I'm sure I can see out the rest of the game as well..

So that's a no from me.

zelgadissan

zelgadissan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Warrior Priests [WP]

Me/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by YoNkErS 2k5 View Post
I also think not being able to use numbers or punctuaction marks is kind of stupid.
These are supposed to be people. It's a CORPG. Unless your real name is !Jon2Nu?G, numbers and punctuation marks have no place in these names.

While we're at it, let's get rid of anybody that uses N A M E, X name X, or I name I, too.

On topic, if they get rid of those stupid names, then by all means extend the character length so that people can make something creative.

BenjZee

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

are some people forgetting that a few characters could make a huge difference in databse storage....

refer

refer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2009

US

Quote:
Originally Posted by zelgadissan View Post
These are supposed to be people. It's a CORPG. Unless your real name is !Jon2Nu?G, numbers and punctuation marks have no place in these names.

While we're at it, let's get rid of anybody that uses N A M E, X name X, or I name I, too.

On topic, if they get rid of those stupid names, then by all means extend the character length so that people can make something creative.
None of the names online are real so why does it matter?. And even taking out numbers and punctuation marks you can still come up with "dumb" names. And who is any of this hurting? I never see anybody RP in Guild Wars anyways.

They do XX/II sometimes because the name is already taken. If there was another system where people could have a display name instead maybe that wouldn't happen as much.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

And after those 5... people may need 5 more...
Where to stop? ...
...
Oh, it's already decided. 16 characters.

What I would actually like is being able to create names with foreign characters for guilds and characters without being in the actual regions, just with the IME.

Fay Vert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmithyBen View Post
are some people forgetting that a few characters could make a huge difference in databse storage....
yes, it could be as much as a gigabyte or two, do people realise just what sort of money is needed to buy that kind of storage? It would completely banckrupt ANet, they would have to charge for that kind of an update.

But as someone said, I've managed just fine for 4 years...

Jumping Is Uselss

Jumping Is Uselss

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

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Would be nice. I always pick long names, but end up having to cut them down.

Enon

Enon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Taking a dip at Nundu Bay

Quote:
Originally Posted by nkuvu View Post
Especially since it would probably require some significant database manipuation (increasing the name field for every character for every account? oof).
Assuming they have a somewhat decent database, it should only take about one query to change it.

nkuvu

nkuvu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Enon View Post
Assuming they have a somewhat decent database, it should only take about one query to change it.
I should have made a note -- I did take a database class in college, but haven't touched them since. And I don't know if the fact that ArenaNet is using a BLOB for data makes any difference.

So take what I say about database complexity with a grain of salt. Or maybe a whole salt lick.