CoP Stacking?

smilingscar

smilingscar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

Frontline Legion

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First of all, I'm very grateful to A-net that CoP is not a hex. Mainly because I can still use it with VoR for even more dmg. But I want to know if multiple copies of CoP will stack their degen. I've tested it solo with an echoed copy, and it doesn't appear to be so. However, perhaps it works with a team mates copy, sort of like assassin's promise. It would be kinda cool to give a theoretical 40 degen to a mob.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

No. That's the point of this update, to allow one or two people to bring it and still be effective without allowing an entire team to abuse it in speed clears (which they can still do, just much slower).

smilingscar

smilingscar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

Frontline Legion

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No. That's the point of this update, to allow one or two people to bring it and still be effective without allowing an entire team to abuse it in speed clears (which they can still do, just much slower)
Have you tested it though? Having the degen stack wouldn't speed up clears much since degen is capped, and it is currently the only non-hex spell with a duration effect on a foe. It seems natural to ask if it stacks or reapplies.

KemikalRx

KemikalRx

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

Passionate Kiss Of The Tiger [KISS]

Mo/

here are my thoughts.

2 Max CoP causes -10 degen, which is the max that can be applied to ally or foe.

in theory anything more than that is waste,

however consider this..
if there is a regen healer in the mob or a dervish with mystic regeneration then more CoP could be useful.

4 CoP would apply a theoretical -20 degen (max stats) so this would negate most enemy healer Regeneration abilitys keeping the foe at -10 degen or therebouts.

Also, with the degen not being a hex or condition can it be stripped?

has anyone witnessed this occuring?

Braxton619

Braxton619

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2008

A/W

No it doesn't stack. Everyone has the same degen but it just refreshes everytime you cast it.

rokocoko

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2008

E/

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Originally Posted by KemikalRx View Post
...Also, with the degen not being a hex or condition can it be stripped?
About Cry of Pain, wiki says, and I quote, "the degeneration effect is not placed on as a hex and cannot be removed. It still is restricted to the degeneration cap though."

jray14

jray14

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

NC, USA

Ohm Mahnee Pedmay [Hoom]

Thanks for the info.

So I think it will be Goodbye Mesmers, Hello Rits in elite PUGs now . I don't know if Mesmers had quite their deserved 15 minutes of fame after such an abysmal first couple PVE years, but it was fun while it lasted.

smilingscar

smilingscar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

Frontline Legion

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Originally Posted by jray14 View Post
So I think it will be Goodbye Mesmers, Hello Rits in elite PUGs now . I don't know if Mesmers had quite their deserved 15 minutes of fame after such an abysmal first couple PVE years, but it was fun while it lasted.
Correction, it's a goodbye to cryway. And cryway never had much to do with mesmers, as any class could run it.