Hi, I am new to the forums. I'm not really a chatty type and often avoid posting unless necessary.
I have a dilemma atm that I am unsure as what to do about.
Here's a quick run down:
On Sunday, I met a fellow and was invited to the guild he was an officer in. On Monday, he promoted me to an officer, but the guild owner demoted me and an arguement apparently ensued. The owner re-promoted me, but the fellow that invited me left anyway. All that happened before I ever logged on Monday evening. (and for the record, I really don't care about being an officer in a guild and have gone through the entire Prophesies storyline just fine without any guild at all)
To continue...
When I logged on yesterday evening, I got a pm from this fellow saying that he had left the guild and now had his own guild and wanted me to be a member. So, I leave the first guild and get invited. He confides in me in pm's that he "stole" the guild from it's original founder. He had somehow talked the guild owner into making him owner for three day's and the owner became an officer. But, as soon as the original founder logged out, this fellow kicked him and ALL of the original members, including the officer who had invited him in the first place, and started inviting new members. I stayed in the guild long enough to check the guild stat's and see all of his activities until he logged off, then I left the guild and put him on my ignore list.
What should I do? I feel bad for the original founder of the guild and all of his friends. This was wrong on every level possible.
Advise please!
Dilemma
Punky2009
Zahr Dalsk
Dilemma.
Who cares what you do? It's just a game.
Who cares what you do? It's just a game.
Punky2009
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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk
Dilemma.
Who cares what you do? It's just a game. |
It may be a game, but there are rules and codes of conduct. I just don't know where this fit's in.
master of puppets
try talk it out with them both or just leave and join a better guild
Zahr Dalsk
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Originally Posted by Punky2009
It may be a game, but there are rules and codes of conduct.
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PUGs do it. Guilds do it. PvPers do it. PvE elitists do it. PvP elitists do it. Scrubs of both kind do it. Everyone does it.
Burst Cancel
It's like high school all over again.
Oh wait.
Oh wait.
Mordakai
Wait, this guy left the guild then became its leader?
Delver
I wouldn't put too much thought into this as everyone has to deal with the idiocy of the immature crowds. Sounds like you barely know these people so it shouldn't affect you anyway. If you're fine going solo, go solo. If you want to join guilds, check recruitment posts, ask a friend you've frequently played with.
Being an officer doesn't mean much other than invites and starting GvGs. Some guilds have no members because everyone's an officer, other than leader.
Being an officer doesn't mean much other than invites and starting GvGs. Some guilds have no members because everyone's an officer, other than leader.
Medoc
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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk
The closest thing to a code of conduct in GW is to be an asshole.
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Anyway, a tough decision for someone new. Choices are to get involved or not. Getting involved would be a lot of work on your part and, most likely, hurt feelings, with some form of anger turned toward you. Unless you're up for the challenge, I'd just say that you've decided to move on and either remain solo or, as one of the other posters suggests, look for a different guild.
AKB48
Just do whatever you want, but I wouldn't trust that kind of guy in my guild really. Next thing you know he could be scamming you for w/e he wants from you. My suggestion is go to another, bigger guild where it has had some history for a while.
rkubik
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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk
The closest thing to a code of conduct in GW is to be an asshole.
PUGs do it. Guilds do it. PvPers do it. PvE elitists do it. PvP elitists do it. Scrubs of both kind do it. Everyone does it. |
Amen. This is the exact reason I use heroes. I have played over 4 years and am so sick of the A holes I have enough time built up to be a licensed Proctologist.
DarkFlame
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Originally Posted by Mordakai
Wait, this guy left the guild then became its leader?
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@Op You did nothing wrong and its not your place to fix anything. You befriended some random guy, turns out he's an @sshat and you distanced yourself from him as fast as you could. If you have screenshots of your convos with him about stealing the guild, you could report it to Anet. Otherwise, this is of end of it, just move on.
Martin Firestorm
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What should I do? I feel bad for the original founder of the guild and all of his friends. This was wrong on every level possible.
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You answered your own question. Get out asap. The guy's awful, you can see that for yourself.
Braxton619
Well it was the guild leader's fault for adding him as leader for 3 days.
Never let someone leader unless you know them well. Like your closest friend you see at work/school everyday.
Never let someone leader unless you know them well. Like your closest friend you see at work/school everyday.
Punky2009
Well, thanks to those of you who gave positive responses to this. I am going to just let it go since I don't have any kind of screenshots of the conversation to prove it. My screenshots in this game come out with the bottom third of the image blurred out. Don't know why. And I didn't have Fraps running at the time.
Just so all you decent folks know, the guys character name (the one he is or was using) is L**d U****a, a necromancer. He's staying on my ignore list and my advice is to stay away from him. The name of the guild he stole is "Eternities End [EE]".
Just so all you decent folks know, the guys character name (the one he is or was using) is L**d U****a, a necromancer. He's staying on my ignore list and my advice is to stay away from him. The name of the guild he stole is "Eternities End [EE]".
Puebert
Join a new guild that doesn't believe in drama.
Bob Slydell
Just get his name out and what he did, If you got screenshots of the conversations then you can post them so everyone knows his name.
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[Morkai]
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Just get his name out and what he did, If you got screenshots of the conversations then you can post them so everyone knows his name.
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As for your problem OP, walk away. Not your duty or anything, if you feel bad for the Leader guy, PM him the screenshots and explain what you saw. If it bothers you that much anyway.
Tullzinski
Needs more drama, maybe you could have him sell the guild, then you report him for stealing the guild and selling it, rejoin the guild once the original owner gets it back and then take it from him in the same way and sell it yourself.
Punky2009
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Originally Posted by Tullzinski
Needs more drama, maybe you could have him sell the guild, then you report him for stealing the guild and selling it, rejoin the guild once the original owner gets it back and then take it from him in the same way and sell it yourself.
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Ask for advice for one concern (because I am a NICE person and crap like this DOES bother me), and all kind's of creepy crawlies come out of the woodwork.
Ta-ta ya'll...
Have fun with the thread. I got all I needed.
Antares Ascending
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Whew! This guy sounds like a good friend to have
. Leave the guild. With a jerk at the helm, this is a ship that is sure to sink.
Whew! This guy sounds like a good friend to have
. Leave the guild. With a jerk at the helm, this is a ship that is sure to sink.
Ghost Omel
Hmm.. Well hmmm...what is your part in this beside being thrown from one guild to another?
Ok Ok sensative person i get it but its not your fault... You feel bad for who.. The first guild leader you left.. or the Guild Leader that lost his guild.. quite confusing
Then according to you you didnt play any major role in a argument in either case- you shouldnt care or take it close to heart.
Its a Game...but like real life.. some one wins..some one looses....The Guild Leader (not owner) who lost his guild was gulable.. and frankly deserved it..
In anyway taking miniscule things like this close to heart will ruin your Game experience.. my answe r to you.. be without guild.. there is Drama in every guild.. Exept mine...its all comedy here =)
Ok Ok sensative person i get it but its not your fault... You feel bad for who.. The first guild leader you left.. or the Guild Leader that lost his guild.. quite confusing
Then according to you you didnt play any major role in a argument in either case- you shouldnt care or take it close to heart.
Its a Game...but like real life.. some one wins..some one looses....The Guild Leader (not owner) who lost his guild was gulable.. and frankly deserved it..
In anyway taking miniscule things like this close to heart will ruin your Game experience.. my answe r to you.. be without guild.. there is Drama in every guild.. Exept mine...its all comedy here =)
Gigashadow
Just explain your situation as you did above, to the original founder. You don't have to re-join his guild, but at least be courteous and explain your perspective of the story.
Ebony Shadowheart
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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk
The closest thing to a code of conduct in GW is to be an asshole.
PUGs do it. Guilds do it. PvPers do it. PvE elitists do it. PvP elitists do it. Scrubs of both kind do it. Everyone does it. |
On that note, to the original poster:
This sort of stuff sucks, but it does tend to happen almost regularly in GW. Someone trusts someone else and ends up shafted....usually without lube.
There really isn't much you can do. I mean even if you could contact the previous owner and talk to the guy that stole the guild, the likeliness that he would give it back is nill.
I'd say you made a good call by leaving and adding him to your ignore list. People like that aren't worth the time you waste on them. You can't change them and eventually they'd most likely screw you over as well.
I'd suggest simply moving on and keep it in the back of your mind as a hard lesson learned about the nature of most people playing the game.
Ghost Omel
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Yes everyone does it, as you are so nicely showing us. However, by not being a sheep and following the herd...nevermind the concept would go right over your head.
On that note, to the original poster: This sort of stuff sucks, but it does tend to happen almost regularly in GW. Someone trusts someone else and ends up shafted....usually without lube. There really isn't much you can do. I mean even if you could contact the previous owner and talk to the guy that stole the guild, the likeliness that he would give it back is nill. I'd say you made a good call by leaving and adding him to your ignore list. People like that aren't worth the time you waste on them. You can't change them and eventually they'd most likely screw you over as well. I'd suggest simply moving on and keep it in the back of your mind as a hard lesson learned about the nature of most people playing the game. |
Nicely put... To bad that the OP is not even looking at the thrad anymore as said at the end of the first page.. which is sad... came here for help but doesnt even bother hearing all the opinions.. doesnt that put the person in the same boat as the other gamer ?
pumpkin pie
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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk
The closest thing to a code of conduct in GW is to be an asshole.
PUGs do it. Guilds do it. PvPers do it. PvE elitists do it. PvP elitists do it. Scrubs of both kind do it. Everyone does it. |
No, I do not do what you do. Do not assume everyone is like you.
Punky2009 isn't or they won't ask the question.
@ Punky2009
Leaving the guild is the correct thing to do, other then that I don't think there's anything else you can do.
However if you must try, why not send a ticket to Arena Net and see what they say. Provided you have proof of what you say, when the incident happened, time and date. Screenshots.
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Legal page : check those, see if they have violated any of the legal agreement.
Punky2009
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Nicely put... To bad that the OP is not even looking at the thrad anymore as said at the end of the first page.. which is sad... came here for help but doesnt even bother hearing all the opinions.. doesnt that put the person in the same boat as the other gamer ?
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No, it doesn't put me in the same boat as that theiven bloke. And, obviously, I am still watching the thread, just didn't have anymore intentions on posting in it anymore until I saw your response. A little correction was called for.
I'm aware that others will visit at various times and have opinions.I decided to just read and not post because, frankly, there are too many people apparently that don't give a sh*t about their gaming peers posting. Selfishness and callousness seem to abide and anyone over the age of 17 should be ashamed of themselves for it. Real adults don't act that way, even in games. The gaming experience would be much better than is without that kind of negative behavior.
But yes, I agree with you and the previous poster to which you responded. And a few others. And I very much appreciate the input.
~Thanks
Michael805
I think you should convince the guy to make you leader, then kick him.
immortius
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I think you should convince the guy to make you leader, then kick him.
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Of course, the sort of jerk you're talking about would never let go of guild leadership, because he doesn't trust anyone and probably plans to take advantage of you later.
Sjeng
IMHO all that happened has nothing to do with you. Its all that guys fault. You put him on ignore allready. that's it. end of chapter.
Move on and find a nice guild. You don't have to apologise to anyone as it was never your fault to start with.
/closethread?
Move on and find a nice guild. You don't have to apologise to anyone as it was never your fault to start with.
/closethread?
HuntMaster Avatar
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No, it doesn't put me in the same boat as that theiven bloke. And, obviously, I am still watching the thread, just didn't have anymore intentions on posting in it anymore until I saw your response. A little correction was called for.
I'm aware that others will visit at various times and have opinions.I decided to just read and not post because, frankly, there are too many people apparently that don't give a sh*t about their gaming peers posting. Selfishness and callousness seem to abide and anyone over the age of 17 should be ashamed of themselves for it. Real adults don't act that way, even in games. The gaming experience would be much better than is without that kind of negative behavior. But yes, I agree with you and the previous poster to which you responded. And a few others. And I very much appreciate the input. ~Thanks |
Welcome to the internet, where unsupervised children and disfunctional adults are the majority. I sense you are learning this and well you should. It will save you time and frustration. Just read through some of the posts on guru to see what the community is really like. Check other forums of other games and see how those communities are.
As for your issue. The dude who stole the guild is a jerk and the old guild leader is an idiot for giving away his guild to someone he barely knew. Either way its really none of your business (I mean that respectfully) and as such not your responsibility.
The old guild leader could complain about the guild jacking if he/she wants to. Just leave it alone and mark this down as an easy lesson learned. Now you know never to do what that guild leader did and trust NO ONE.
Here's a rule of thumb to live by.
Many video games are fun and many online video game players are jerks. People who get punked out in real life so they need to get online and vent there sad little rage all over the net. Its best to just lol and ignore them completely.
I love video games, but I am in no way, a gamer. When you understand the community, you will understand the comment.
Shadow of Light
Punky2009: You sound like a nice person who cares about what happens to people and trying to do the right thing by them. I wish there were more people in GW like you Please keep that attitude, and don't let the callousness, rudeness or apathy of the majority drag you down.
GG
Please keep that attitude, and don't let the callousness, rudeness or apathy of the majority drag you down.GG
Tramp
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Spinny
The exact reason I haven't played this game in 2 month, the majority community sucks.
I've met some really good people in this game, but, unfortunatley, I've met x10 more assholes.
I've met some really good people in this game, but, unfortunatley, I've met x10 more assholes.
II Lucky Charm II
This is only a game, you can ignore all the drama that go on in this game. You should not take e-drama too seriously!