Render impossible to reach without a Perma?

WhiteAsIce

WhiteAsIce

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2008

R/

I'm trying to complete the Vabbi quest Desperate Measures, where you have to kill the bosses of the Skree and Heket, with my Paragon. I can kill the Heket leader easily on my own. However, I can get nowhere near the Skree boss Render because of the masses of Griffins (HB Monks) and Singers (Paras with [["We Shall Return!"]. Triple Necro heroes can't do a thing against instant mass ressing. Is there nothing I can do about this without resorting to hiring a Perma to go kill the boss for me?

Jade

Jade

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Canada...... Eh!

I don't remember this one being too hard, but it has been a while since I've done it. Try this, from the official wiki:

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Alternative Walkthrough
This is not a true walkthrough, but it works. The quest implies that the Harpies and Heket are at war... take advantage of this. With a few running and damage reduction skills just run into the Harpie/Heket camp and bring them to the other one - make sure to bring the boss along - and watch the full scale war. Clean up any leftovers and you're done. If soloing, then bring an AoE spell/skill so you get the XP while they kill each other; this is very useful if trying to lvl up heroes - just don't take quest reward ever.

LicensedLuny

Badly Influenced

Join Date: Dec 2005

Buying Humps! (No kidding! Check my buy thread)

Hello Kitty Krewe [HKK] Forever!-ish

I haven't tried that quest in a while, certainly not since the big buff. Just off the top of my head though, can you bring Frozen Soil on your bar or a hero's bar? Wouldn't that stop the Para's from rezzing? If it's just that one shout, you might also try Vocal Minority or Well of Silence. Another option would be to bring a mesmer to drain their energy. We Shall Return needs 25 energy now, and that can be hard on Paragons.

Good Luck!

EDIT - @ Jade, I'm guessing the recent update that buffed a lot of Paragon skills in PvE, including making We Shall Return an AoE rez, is what's causing trouble now.

WhiteAsIce

WhiteAsIce

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2008

R/

I tried to bring them together to wage war. The Skree always win now due to the super buffed We Shall Return. Also, E-denial is no good, since foes seem to have infinite energy anyways. I tried to have Frozen Soil, but either they kill it right away, or I don't have enough firepower to outdamage the Griffon's heals since I lack a Discorder.

Resha

Resha

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Alberta, Mongolia

P/

Doing this right now with my imbagon using 2 paragon/1 orders derv for heroes and gave one of the paragons Frozen Soil. Just worked my way to him from the east killing a few mobs on the way (with frozen soil up for all of them - just set it up away from the mob and it'll be fine) and pulled him alone and he was easy, of course, while killing him about 4 other mobs decided to join in the fun and they eventually killed us but I got the boss so to heck with them!

I Will Heal You Ally

I Will Heal You Ally

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

In my HoM

Canthan Refugees [TOGO]

E/Rt

Um I bring Frozen Soil for no rez?

rkubik

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

I have done that quest on at least 8 characters and never had too much of a problem. Same strategy every time. I would just start to pull groups back to the rez shrine at the bottom fo the hill by Render. Once you start to pull a bunch of them come. For most of them I used the basic sabway hero build and had little problems doing it that way.

mathiastemplar

mathiastemplar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2008

Denmark

Jade Reapers [JD]

W/

Try Earthshaker.

Eragon Zarroc

Eragon Zarroc

Atra estern?? ono thelduin

Join Date: Jan 2008

Madness Incarnate

[Duo]

W/P

frozen soil is the easiest way to deal with the shout ressing. fortunately it is now affected by frozen unlike when the skill was first changed ;-) =D

Dre

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

Belgium

Dutch Doom Brigade

W/

try vocal minority, they have no hex removal

Kattar

Kattar

EXCESSIVE FLUTTERCUSSING

Join Date: Mar 2007

SMS (lolgw2placeholder)

Me/

There is no part a regular gameplay that can only be completed with some gimmick build like SF.

Just for future reference.

Helix Dreadlock

Helix Dreadlock

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2009

Imperial Sanctum

Legendary Drunken Masters [DUI]

E/Me

Sf is even tough to kill them with! :O