Hi, all. This is the build that I'm running right now. It does some pretty good Dps.
1. Unsupecting Strike
2. Wild Strike
3. Death Blossom
4. Moebius Strike
5. Asuran Scan
6. Critical Agility
7. Critical Eye
8. Critical Defenses/ Rez
Dagger Mastery: 12+1+1
Critical Strikes: 12+1
I'm just wondering what you all think about it.
Moebius Strike Build
mjcraig
TheRanger
Golden Fang Strike over 2
Winterclaw
I think he meant golden fang over 1. Two leads and no off-hand wouldn't work.
Other than that, there's no problem with the build.
Other than that, there's no problem with the build.
mjcraig
So maybe:
1. Golden Fang Strike
2. Wild Strike
1. Golden Fang Strike
2. Wild Strike
ImDReaperslash
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Originally Posted by mjcraig
1. Golden Fang Strike
2. Wild Strike
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To clarify what I'm saying : learn sin skills please.
I think he just misread what u wrote. Golden fang and Golden fox are confusing in a way.
zelgadissan
Golden Fox > Unsuspecting, Wild > Golden Fang.
Regarding Golden Fang - Moebius builds do not need Deep Wound and IMO are hurt by a Deep Wound. The whole point of DB/MS is the AoE damage, and the faster your target dies, the less DPS as a whole you're putting out. You want to hit as many Death Blossoms as humanly possible without having to switch targets and re-start your chain. It's why personally, I run Jagged Strike or even Sneak Attack as my lead.
Bobby2
"Save Yourselves!" or other imba PvE skill over Res/CritDef.
mjcraig
Thanks, guys.
Paul Dawg
I also use golden fox as my lead because it's unblockable if you're enchanted. Yes, it's a real downer if any of your attacks are blocked before you can get to death blossom.
Originally Posted by zelgadissan
I've never liked unsuspecting strike as a lead because it generally doesn't work more than once. The second time you get a chance to use it in a typical battle, the foe has less than 90% health. Quote:
Golden Fox > Unsuspecting, Wild > Golden Fang.
Regarding Golden Fang - Moebius builds do not need Deep Wound and IMO are hurt by a Deep Wound. The whole point of DB/MS is the AoE damage, and the faster your target dies, the less DPS as a whole you're putting out. You want to hit as many Death Blossoms as humanly possible without having to switch targets and re-start your chain. It's why personally, I run Jagged Strike or even Sneak Attack as my lead. RadaArashi
Unsuspecting is best for PvP in a spike chain IMO
something like Knockdown Unsuspecting -> Fox Fangs (for the 1/2 activation) -> Horns of the Ox -> Falling Lotus/Spider -> Twisting Fangs Super Igor
Crit defenses a trash skill and you dont have to bring rez with you all the time, if you wipe, you wipe it won't save you. Get SY!, make you invincible.
Also, use your brain, no point taking Wild Strike if the lead attack before it can be blocked. If you only want damage then takes Golden Fang, instant dw.
Jaigoda
Crit Defenses is a good skill for when you're running SY and have now become a prime target for melees. Still, it's not worth it to run it if you could have run something else to do more damage. But if you have a free slot (combo starter, duals, moebius, asuran scan, emanagement covered), it's perfectly acceptable to bring it.
Also, use your brain, instead of bashing Wild Strike try suggesting a better alternative for the crappy lead. Say, like Golden Fox Strike? Unsuspecting is terrible in PvE, because just Death Blossom alone should put your next target below 90%, and energy management is usually stretched already without having to use 10 energy for your lead. zzz death ryder zzz
pretty nice build...personally i like brawling headbutt for a knockdown/rupt in place of cd...i dont run into much problems with the frontline they tend to be on their back for a fair amount of the fight anyways...as for the casters works very nice for a quick recycled rupt...critical eye is really not needed...i critical on every death blossom without and if you want the extra energy per critical just go with zealous daggers and get it on every hit...which leaves the utility slot open for a rez
Betrayer of Wind
Either switch unsuspecting for golden fox,or wild strike for golden fang.
Res can be dropped(if anything,u're prob the one dying anyway) for SY!,critical defenses or the likes.
Jaigoda
IMO, your three PvE skills should almost always be Asuran Scan, Critical Agility, and Save Yourselves. I don't think you'll get anything more out of any other PvE skills.
I'd say drop crit defenses/res for Save Yourselves, and unsuspecting for golden fox. Otherwise, it's pretty much the standard MS>DB.
Chieftain Heavyhand
Golden Fox
Wild Strike Death Blossom Moebius Strike Critical Agility Critical Defense/Assassin's Remedy Critical Eye SY! Dag 12+1+1 Crit12+1 Unblockable chain up to Death Blossom, removes stances leading up to Death B., IAS, decent defense, additional chance for crit, and you contribute to the group by boosting their armor. An alternative is to switch Critical D. out with Assassin's Remedy. Helps keep blinding off of you. Sins are usually the first to die so a rez is useless. Omg Im A Mage
Why use a lead and an off-hand? Just use Golden Phoenix --> Death Blossom --> Moebius --> Death Blossom --> Moebius, repeat, repeat, repeat. Shortens the chain and if your DB gets blocked, just use Golden Phoenix and your right back in the AoE spam.
Unsuspecting strike is useless with a DB/Moebius spam build because it kills your target to fast if it works, and if it doesn't work its just a waste of energy. For a spiking build use some knockdowns and maybe Palm Strike and Twisting Fangs.
dfscott
Carnivorous Cupcake
14 dagger 13 crit
critical agility, critical eye, asuran scan, golden fox strike, wild strike, moebius strike, death blossom, save yourselves! Thats how MS/DB should look like. :]
Perfected Shadow
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white dmg FTL
Yeah white dmg sucks in gw because it doesn't exist.
I heard huntard and arms warrior white dmg crits were good though. On topic: you could go the GPS route, and bring Brawling Headbutt, Falling Spider/Lotus so you have another way of entering the DB/MS chain. Club of a Thousand Bears instead of Brawling could work fine too. maxxfury
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Originally Posted by Perfected Shadow
Yeah white dmg sucks in gw because it doesn't exist.
Obviously refering to auto attack damage..due to gps not been reloaded to use and chain up again...
Perfected Shadow
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Originally Posted by maxxfury
Obviously refering to auto attack damage..due to gps not been reloaded to use and chain up again...
I know what dfscott meant...
I was just making a side comment because I was interested in seeing the term white damage come up. ... ... ... Snorph
Well sence I dont have all the skills like AS and 2 from NF, i am rolling something like this.
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