Yesterday, an old friend of mine logged on and messaged me commenting on how high the ping was and how we was bouncing all over the map. It was also happening to me. As many of y'all have noticed in the past month there have been many disconnects and the ping has been really high. In the past 2 years many PvPers have seen their ping steadily increase on average from month to month.
Back to my story, we were thinking and came to the conclusion that maybe Anet hasn't been paying for the server maintenance that it should be doing or is just doing the bare minimum. I also commented on the lack of people at Anet working on Guild Wars.
That is when he had a brilliant suggestion. He said, "If Anet isn't pulling in enough money to support both the servers of Guild Wars and the community then why don't they just sell ads on loading screens?"
I think that this is just genius. I wouldn't mind it at all. If they could put one more server online or add another person to the live team then I wouldn't mind advertisements at all. What does the Guru community think? Would you be okay with Anet selling adspace on the loading screens?
P.S. I want to limit it to ad screens. I think most people would mind seeing a coca-cola ad on their armor or a Bank of America ad at the Xunlai Chest.
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You just got tomahawked
pumpkin pie
huh, what has the title got to do with what you are posting?
Divine Ashes
What does the title have to do with this post?
Also, there's already plenty of threads about the lag...try looking.
Also, there's already plenty of threads about the lag...try looking.
Inde
This has actually been debated a lot over the years. You can see some great articles below on the subject and games that all ready did this - Anarchy Online, Matrix Online, SWAT 4, Splinter Cell and more:
http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cf...ure=828&bhcp=1
http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cf...ure=828&bhcp=1
http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/60433
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6140044.html
http://www.massively.com/2008/11/26/...-monthly-fees/
http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cf...ure=828&bhcp=1
http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cf...ure=828&bhcp=1
http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/60433
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6140044.html
http://www.massively.com/2008/11/26/...-monthly-fees/
You just got tomahawked
Wow, yeah, I knew it had been considered before. I think with something like this it depends on the community if it would be a good thing or a bad thing for the game.
Chokey
I wouldn't mind, so long as it was only on the load screen, especially if it means more extra content or better updates.
Divine Ashes
Personally, I think it would lessen the immersion into the game, and would really take away from the "fantasy" aspect of it all.
Dont Nerf The Perma
as for a-net slacking off on server repairs, the game is free to play after you buy so what do you expect?
i'd like there to be ads a-net needs the funds
i'd like there to be ads a-net needs the funds
Need More Donuts
From what I've seen ads do just the opposite, they make the game more laggy and then they make rules that your not allowed to block those ads
/notsigned
/notsigned
Pistachio
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...That is when he had a brilliant suggestion. He said, "If Anet isn't pulling in enough money to support both the servers of Guild Wars and the community then why don't they just sell ads on loading screens?"
I think that this is just genius. ... |
I'm sure we all understand that at its heart, Guild Wars is there to make money for Anet, because they are a business. I can live with that just fine as long as the business model confines itself to the game. However, when it reaches outside that, and I start seeing McMuffin billboards in Lions Arch, or even on something as simple as a loading screen - those greedy hands have reached too far, and destroyed the spirit of the game. It is unnecessary, and unwanted by the player base I think you'll find.
We are the ones playing this game, We are the ones funding this game, and We should not have to stomach some underhanded corporate sponsorship.
Absolutely, positively No. No. No.
Also, You just got tomahawked, you sound like a plant.
Dont Nerf The Perma
what about ads on the log in screen?
You just got tomahawked
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We are the ones funding this game.
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ZenRgy
Rename skills to slogans and names of products.
Black Metal
This slippery slope only leads to imminent demise
NO.
NO.
Fay Vert
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I think that this is just genius.
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I'll just say NO
JONO51
I dont mind, as long as it doesnt become a part of game area's/cutscenes, like in a certain sam fisher gamer, where the only think left with the lights on was the giant airwaves balloon >.>
EPO Bot
Can't wait for the Pepsi armor.
AydenQuinn
I can imagine a big Golden Arches towering high above Lion's Arch, maybe a Starbuck's at some of the stops in the Shiverpeaks.
Megas XLR
/signed for the lols.
And I cross my fingers it happens and so much more.
And I cross my fingers it happens and so much more.
slowerpoke
wtb adblock for gw
Racthoh
Songbringer
Um, No. Sorry I play(ed?) gw's to get away from RL. Not to be bombarded by stupid ad's. That happens enough on TV, Radio and Billboards on my way to work. Sorry, No. I would stop playing completely. Even though it has been about 2 months since I logged for more then 2 mins and I have given my account to a friend. XD
Tender Wolf
Why would they put ads into a GAME? I get tired of seeing ads on websites, it would make the game even worse if they added ads to it even if they were just on the loading screen. Personally I have no problem with lag, and even when I do, I'd rather deal with it than annoying ads in a game even if it meant more servers and people at ANet. They should be focusing on Guild Wars 2 now anyway.
Solas
Yeah, adds would cheapened the whole exp.
promos are a different thing though so I would be in favor of themas long as it wasn't painfully obvious advertising
promos are a different thing though so I would be in favor of themas long as it wasn't painfully obvious advertising
Still Number One
It's a great idea. Putting them in the loading screen does absolutely nothing to harm the game. Anet would make extra money off this and be able to afford more support for the game making everyone's experience that much greater. There is no negative to this, and there is a positive of a better and more efficient gaming experience.
Rhamia Darigaz
NOOO! how will my lvl 12 paladin Sir Lancilat vanquish the forces of evil when he's bombarded by the enemy's propaganda!? plus it would lessen immersion into the g
rofl don't worry just kidding, guys.
ads in loading screens are a great idea. if you forget you're in real life while staring at a big screen with the word loading at the bottom (or even in the middle of playing for that matter) ads might do you some good.
also, professional sports have ads so why not competitive online rpgs? if we're lucky it would make everyone feel like a big sports star and create even more drama. perhaps enough drama for... national television. and i will be the first to profit.
rofl don't worry just kidding, guys.
ads in loading screens are a great idea. if you forget you're in real life while staring at a big screen with the word loading at the bottom (or even in the middle of playing for that matter) ads might do you some good.
also, professional sports have ads so why not competitive online rpgs? if we're lucky it would make everyone feel like a big sports star and create even more drama. perhaps enough drama for... national television. and i will be the first to profit.
Sarevok Thordin
Personally, I'm ok with a short blurb on a loading screen SO LONG AS IT IS NOT GIVEN A MINIMUM TIMER, if my comp can load past the ad without losing time, I'm ok with it.
I understand Anet needs renewable money from this (since people are so resilient about buying stuff sometimes in the online store, and it's not like you need it), so loading screens would be ok. NOTHING in game however please.
I understand Anet needs renewable money from this (since people are so resilient about buying stuff sometimes in the online store, and it's not like you need it), so loading screens would be ok. NOTHING in game however please.
FengShuiDove
Update - Thursday, July 2
***Added new quest dialogue for the Nightfall primary quest "Signs and Portents." It now reads:
Melonni: "This looks bad."
<party leader>: "It's just some old inscriptions."
Melonni: "I hate not knowing what they say."
Kormir: "These come from earlier times, from before the Scarab Plague. A scholar could decipher them."
Melonni: "I don't know any scholars that would want to come out here."
Kormir: "You would be surprised."
Melonni: "What's that?"
Kormir: "It's one of the excavation workers."
<party leader>: "Yes, but look at him."
Melonni: "I would like to change my opinion to: "This would be a great time for some Kool-Aid.""
*Kool-Aid guy crashes through ancient inscribed wall*
Kool: "Oh yeaaaahhhhhh!!!"
***Added new quest dialogue for the Nightfall primary quest "Signs and Portents." It now reads:
Melonni: "This looks bad."
<party leader>: "It's just some old inscriptions."
Melonni: "I hate not knowing what they say."
Kormir: "These come from earlier times, from before the Scarab Plague. A scholar could decipher them."
Melonni: "I don't know any scholars that would want to come out here."
Kormir: "You would be surprised."
Melonni: "What's that?"
Kormir: "It's one of the excavation workers."
<party leader>: "Yes, but look at him."
Melonni: "I would like to change my opinion to: "This would be a great time for some Kool-Aid.""
*Kool-Aid guy crashes through ancient inscribed wall*
Kool: "Oh yeaaaahhhhhh!!!"
Still Number One
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Update - Thursday, July 2
***Added new quest dialogue for the Nightfall primary quest "Signs and Portents." It now reads: Melonni: "This looks bad." <party leader>: "It's just some old inscriptions." Melonni: "I hate not knowing what they say." Kormir: "These come from earlier times, from before the Scarab Plague. A scholar could decipher them." Melonni: "I don't know any scholars that would want to come out here." Kormir: "You would be surprised." Melonni: "What's that?" Kormir: "It's one of the excavation workers." <party leader>: "Yes, but look at him." Melonni: "I would like to change my opinion to: "This would be a great time for some Kool-Aid."" *Kool-Aid guy crashes through ancient inscribed wall* Kool: "Oh yeaaaahhhhhh!!!" |
Dre
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Update - Thursday, July 2
***Added new quest dialogue for the Nightfall primary quest "Signs and Portents." It now reads: Melonni: "This looks bad." <party leader>: "It's just some old inscriptions." Melonni: "I hate not knowing what they say." Kormir: "These come from earlier times, from before the Scarab Plague. A scholar could decipher them." Melonni: "I don't know any scholars that would want to come out here." Kormir: "You would be surprised." Melonni: "What's that?" Kormir: "It's one of the excavation workers." <party leader>: "Yes, but look at him." Melonni: "I would like to change my opinion to: "This would be a great time for some Kool-Aid."" *Kool-Aid guy crashes through ancient inscribed wall* Kool: "Oh yeaaaahhhhhh!!!" |
after 4 years they get boring
Rhamia Darigaz
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Update - Thursday, July 2
***Added new quest dialogue for the Nightfall primary quest "Signs and Portents." It now reads: Melonni: "This looks bad." <party leader>: "It's just some old inscriptions." Melonni: "I hate not knowing what they say." Kormir: "These come from earlier times, from before the Scarab Plague. A scholar could decipher them." Melonni: "I don't know any scholars that would want to come out here." Kormir: "You would be surprised." Melonni: "What's that?" Kormir: "It's one of the excavation workers." <party leader>: "Yes, but look at him." Melonni: "I would like to change my opinion to: "This would be a great time for some Kool-Aid."" *Kool-Aid guy crashes through ancient inscribed wall* Kool: "Oh yeaaaahhhhhh!!!" |
also, if i didn't own guild wars i would buy it just to see that cutscene. and then i would buy some cool, refreshing Kool-Aid. think about it Anet.
Helix Dreadlock
If we could purchase an ad blocker from the in-game store, how much would it cost? I'm willing to pay anything under my total life savings -.-
Oh, and btw, I'd just texmod out the ads :P
Oh, and btw, I'd just texmod out the ads :P
YunSooJin
What makes you guys think that if ANET puts up ads all the profit is going back into GW? Frankly I doubt it.
Trub
I personally would not mind at all, If Pyre wants to encourage his War Band to 'Snap into a Slim Jim!!'.
Bastian
Wow, the stupidity of people in this thread makes me lulz.
If ads were placed in loading screens to help reduce lag and increase server resources, it would only be a benefit to the game.
I love people that hate and/or are scared of advertisements and believe that they should get everything for free and no one should be allowed to do anything to make money. Please, go to some communist country and the gtfo of good old capitalist USA where we actually have a middle class because we aren't afraid to be profitable.
If ads were placed in loading screens to help reduce lag and increase server resources, it would only be a benefit to the game.
I love people that hate and/or are scared of advertisements and believe that they should get everything for free and no one should be allowed to do anything to make money. Please, go to some communist country and the gtfo of good old capitalist USA where we actually have a middle class because we aren't afraid to be profitable.
FengShuiDove
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I love people that hate and/or are scared of advertisements and believe that they should get everything for free and no one should be allowed to do anything to make money. Please, go to some communist country and the gtfo of good old capitalist USA where we actually have a middle class because we aren't afraid to be profitable.
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I honestly wouldn't have a problem with ads in the game as long as they didn't disrupt regular gameplay. For example, the stupid double-underline text ads that are EVERYWHERE on the internet, as subtle as they're intended to be, are the most annoying thing I've ever encountered. I don't want to go to mouse click on Hungry Skale and have "Hungry" pop up a Hot Pockets ad and "Skale" pop up a Weight Watchers ad.
If done properly, they'd be okay. I would say to avoid putting ANY kind of advertisement in instanced areas (and probably towns and outposts as well), leaving pretty much the login screen, store, and loading screens.
Bastian
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Wow, what a politically charged post. I won't even begin on "capitalist USA" where taxpayer money keeps failing companies afloat. Instead, I digress...
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But, I agree with you about the fact that advertisements everywhere would be an annoyance and would degrade the gameplay. However, the OP clearly stated that the whole idea would be based around advertisements being in loading screens only. I can give up that little bit of my already wasted time in favor of a huge return on playability and less lag. So, assuming that we are going on the premise that the ads would only be on loading screens, its a great idea...
If you want to debate the capitalism issue, pm me, I will be happy to have a serious debate without a bunch of flaming and name calling.
nvmu
Honestly I wouldn't mind if it was just on the loading screens, if they fixed the servers...
However... I'd rather anet allow private servers to which gw servers would have a parent-child connection to keep the private servers up to date and stop it from getting modified. Perhaps have it so in order to log in you'd have to start on anet gw servers and then change the server to the private ones. Just an idea.
However... I'd rather anet allow private servers to which gw servers would have a parent-child connection to keep the private servers up to date and stop it from getting modified. Perhaps have it so in order to log in you'd have to start on anet gw servers and then change the server to the private ones. Just an idea.
Pistachio
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No, we're not. We played for the game but We don't pay a monthly fee. Just curious, what does a plant sound like? I don't think you've ever heard me.
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And a plant is someone who works for a company that uses online forums to promote products and provide leverage for business ideas. They build a rapport with an online community and use it as a way to promote the interests of their employer. And your original post is exactly what a post from a plant sounds like. I have never heard anyone speak so positively about selling out a game they love to corporations to use as a platform for advertising, until I read this thread.
Ryssul Sylverhart
As much as I bloody hate ads, if ANET would need to put them in for whatever reason (e.g., fix the servers), I think I'd be a little willing to have them on the loading screen. Maybe even on the login-screen, like, in the announcements box. You'd see, "Password security. Double XP weekend. Get a free Cherry Coke at Coca-Cola.com."
But I guess it would depend on what kinds of ads were on screen. If I have to listen to "Zap the Mosquito" flash (an infamously annoying ad) while I load up, THAT would get annoying REAL fast. Or if it was one of those video ads that take ages to load, or ads that talk to you all of a sudden, like those stupid smiley face ads screaming "HELLOOOOO?!?!" or "Congratulations. You have just won a free. Apple. iPod." ads, I would retake back everything I'd say about perhaps being able to tolerate them. This goes double for the forced-ads that make you countdown before you can go onto the next page.
But I don't mind regular links (but not those double-underlined hot links, like someone mentioned previously), or just plain ol' banner ads. Heck, I can even take the animated GIF ads like the Classmates.com one or the house mortgage ones with the badly dancing people (I think those are hilarious). So I guess it would really come down to what kind of ads they place. And as long as it's on the loading and/or login screen. When it starts creeping in game, that gets bad.
But I guess it would depend on what kinds of ads were on screen. If I have to listen to "Zap the Mosquito" flash (an infamously annoying ad) while I load up, THAT would get annoying REAL fast. Or if it was one of those video ads that take ages to load, or ads that talk to you all of a sudden, like those stupid smiley face ads screaming "HELLOOOOO?!?!" or "Congratulations. You have just won a free. Apple. iPod." ads, I would retake back everything I'd say about perhaps being able to tolerate them. This goes double for the forced-ads that make you countdown before you can go onto the next page.
But I don't mind regular links (but not those double-underlined hot links, like someone mentioned previously), or just plain ol' banner ads. Heck, I can even take the animated GIF ads like the Classmates.com one or the house mortgage ones with the badly dancing people (I think those are hilarious). So I guess it would really come down to what kind of ads they place. And as long as it's on the loading and/or login screen. When it starts creeping in game, that gets bad.