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Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

27 Jun 2009 at 22:38 - 41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tender Wolf

Which that brings up another point - if things were so easy then why do people happily fork out 20k+ for runs?

Two reasons.

1 - People aren't good enough to do them themselves.
2 - People are happy enough to pay other people to play the game for them.

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I'm not even going to post in here anymore since all anyone does is flame me just because they see my name and label me flame bait. Your posts against me are obviously an attempt to get attention and +1 posts. Grow up people.

Coming in and raging about how it's all impossible brings in the trolls also, don't you think. If people have done the dungeon in HM (I've gotten past that bit you described with full H/H in HM without cons/summoning stones/other crap) then you're obviously wrong and just not good enough of a player. Thats all there is to say: get better at the game.

Saph

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2009

R/

27 Jun 2009 at 22:47 - 42

Seriously? I find this the easiest dungeon to h/h in hm. Never had a problem with bogs, me and my friend used to own this place in about 20 mins flat with me running a ranger and sabway and my friend running a hb monk and discord. Even when I do this place solo, its still pie.

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

27 Jun 2009 at 22:52 - 43

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Originally Posted by Tender Wolf

Fine, whatever. This site is so full of jerks and inconsiderate asses I'm about to make my own site. If I "complained" to Guru about all the hard things in this game the forums would be full of nothing but threads by me. Just because you're a mod/elite guru doesn't give you permission to treat others like they're piles of crap.

And Konig, you're supposed to be my friend. The guild will be interested in this.

See... we aren't being jerks. We are being honest. A jerk would just call you names and go "LOL u fail." Someone whose honest is telling you to adapt, get better builds, and try a few different tactics, which is what most posters on this thread are saying.

Helix Dreadlock

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2009

Imperial Sanctum

Legendary Drunken Masters [DUI]

E/Me

27 Jun 2009 at 22:56 - 44

Try looking at the skills you're facing, and try to counter them, along with NPC tactics.

Keira Nightgale

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2007

Gulfstream Owners Club [GS]

Rt/R

27 Jun 2009 at 22:57 - 45

Back from my bar shift, anyway.

That dungeon can be done in under 20 minutes in HM. I used to run it with my rit and a friend mesmer, just bring lingering curses and have Anton go scythe with wounding strike, add dazed if you really feel like it, the healer plants will go down like nothing, add to this the fact they are immobible therefore they are going to be fodder for Roj.

The builds used to be something like this

Me>>> rit with lingering curses, splinter, ancestor, weaken armor, mark of pain
Anton>>> Scythe with wounding strike
Friend's mesmer>>>> anything really, can be VOR, can be Sin promise +technobabble, fevered dreams etc.
Two RoJ monk>>>>They provide heal + RoJ + some good damage while mitigating pressure
2 Discordway Necros/rt
another N/rt or E/Rt or Monk or a Conjure/hundred blades warrior

The dungeon can be done in 20 minutes without conset (HM), you just need to use your brain. The hardest part for heroes would be the incubus cave, sometimes the beetles tend to rush your heroes. As for frogs, you can do some big pulls, the minions will be tanking while MOP+splinter+anton do the rest.
Sadly we never got a froggy, lots of emerald edges

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

27 Jun 2009 at 23:17 - 46

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Originally Posted by Tender Wolf

Nope, look up Tekk's War, not master's. Made it too hard for a non-master's quest. And if people are that bored of the game they don't have to stay. If they want something more challenging, go play WOW.

Fine, whatever. This site is so full of jerks and inconsiderate asses I'm about to make my own site. If I "complained" to Guru about all the hard things in this game the forums would be full of nothing but threads by me. Just because you're a mod/elite guru doesn't give you permission to treat others like they're piles of crap.

And Konig, you're supposed to be my friend. The guild will be interested in this.

ANet never made standards for non-master's quests, so it can't be too hard. Also, WoW isn't challenging.

No one is treating you like crap. People are just getting tired of you complaining about things you cannot do. If you stopped wasting time making these threads and arguing with people and spent the time trying to get better at the game, we wouldn't have this issue. You say we're jerks, I say we're being honest. If you want to go make your own site, by all means, go.

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

28 Jun 2009 at 00:05 - 47

I did it H/H.

It was a stroll, like with Arachni's. All you need is patience and smell ambushes.
They are pretty obvious. Flag the H/H and trigger them yourlself. Then run back and pull enemies in small groups.

My party? ALL CASTERS. Two elementalists, 4 necromancers, 1 monk, 1 mesmer.
I Vanquished all the Charr and Asura Lands with that, and also made half of the Dungeons in HM.

Cakewalk.

DarkFlame

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2005

Ascalon

E/

28 Jun 2009 at 00:44 - 48

Snowman's Cave thread, all over again, huh?

But whatever, its EoTN. Its advance content for advance players. Its meant to be hard(even if others can steam roll through). Do the research on the dungeon and spend the time needed to work out your build and on assembling your party before you go in. Its actually not that hard.

Jensy

Site Contributor

Join Date: Apr 2007

Phoenix, Arizona

Blinkie Ponie Armie [bpa]

N/Mo

28 Jun 2009 at 02:02 - 49

Tender: Try some interrupts. Interrupting spores before they explode, interrupting deathly swarn, etc. Set some AoE on the monks. It's vital to pound as hard as you can on this stuff from the get go, before they've got time to get into their 'dormant husk' state. After that, it's a lot tougher.

Also, *lots* of hex removal is never a bad thing for this dungeon. Sure, run a WoH/Prot monk, but also take a monk running PnH and spotless mind, etc. Hexes are the 'meta' down there, you need to be prepared for em, heh.

pblock!+CoF! Gwen would be good, as the AI is usually quicker at interrupts.

You've got ranger + derv, right? Also might consider a rit hero running support... something like: [Offering of Spirit], [Destruction], [Ancestors' Rage], [Splinter Weapon], [Strength of Honor], [Warmonger's Weapon], [Remove Hex], Rez (FOMF/Rez chant, etc). 12 smite. 14 channeling. That'll make your derv a happy happy dervish, and put some pressure on the plants.

So you've got: You (ranger), Monk, Gwen, MM + Dervish (monk/rit/insert some AoE here).

On my MM heroes, when facing areas with a lot of hexes, I give them [Resilient Weapon] and they're not half bad with it. You get extra armor when hexed + health regen, so everyone is happy.

It's worth a shot

I never leave home without my splinter rit when on melee >_> Whee, numbers!

Tender Wolf

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2007

All over Tyria, Cantha, & Elona

The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]

R/

28 Jun 2009 at 06:01 - 50

pansy malfoy, thank you for your kind response. I don't see many of those on these forums anymore.

Superman, you can go troll someone else for a change. You should get a new hobby because no one likes a flamer.

Megas XLR

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2009

D/W

28 Jun 2009 at 06:02 - 51

I you feel like sifting through all the monsters, you can abuse RoJ too.

SUPERMAN`

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2009

28 Jun 2009 at 06:29 - 52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tender Wolf

Superman, you can go troll someone else for a change. You should get a new hobby because no one likes a flamer.

I am by no means trolling you. I look at every thread in the forum. It just so happens that your threads come up and I have something to say about it.

The fact that you want to have ANet change the spawns for, what it seems, just for you, is kind of out there. No offense. Yes, I understand it may be stressful since most of the time you spawn right on top of a group, but it's a challenge.

Aeon221

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

[TEW]

N/

28 Jun 2009 at 07:33 - 53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tender Wolf

pansy malfoy, thank you for your kind response. I don't see many of those on these forums anymore.

Superman, you can go troll someone else for a change. You should get a new hobby because no one likes a flamer.

I am shocked, shocked, that Captain Failbot is also a bigot.

How about instead of hating on hypothetical homosexuals, you take on something more your mental size.

Like, I dunno, a rock. Maybe. Sometimes rocks are pretty crafty. And mostly you're just dumb.

Guide to beating dungeon for failbots:

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Bogroot_Growths

Holy carp! It's, like, all spelled out for you! But, hey, I don't want to presume. Perhaps you still need help! After all, you're so incompetent that you blaim Anet for your normal mode failure!

http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Category:G...vE_team_builds

I know choosing is hard for someone whose conception of a good build is two of every cookie cutter, but maybe you can manage to pick from one of the best of the literally hundreds of teams that would be more effective than your own.

Hah, who am I kidding. Any team you chose would still have the liability known as you on it. Good luck! You'll need it, apparently.

Razon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2008

Mo/

28 Jun 2009 at 09:58 - 54

You just had a bad spawn. /resign and try again.

Narcissia

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

BC Canada

Guild With No [NAM???]

28 Jun 2009 at 11:17 - 55

2 man discordway > bogroots. try that if all else fails Tender, gl

thats what me and a friend used, pull carefully and its cake.
friend was running an ele with assassins promise, you move like a dwarf, ebon vanguard assassin support, finish him and random other junk.
i had monk + technobabble (<3 technobabble on the stupid blooming nettles). rawr.

EDIT: here are the builds if you did want to try it http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:Team...Man_Discordway

Nerel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2008

Australia, what you want my home address?

[CAT]

Mo/

28 Jun 2009 at 23:09 - 56

I did Bogroot with 5 characters on my account, HM, using a second account for a dual discord type setup... not exactly wiki builds but close enough, cheap though it might seem, 4 discord necros (2 being MMs, 1 splinter bomber, one MM/prot) and 2 RoJ monks. Never had a problem with this dungeon. Not the easiest dungeon in the game, but far from hard.

No tanks, every hero capable of adding to the damage spike, generally does the job.

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sardelec yelling at Tenshi

Angels Of Strife

E/

29 Jun 2009 at 00:53 - 57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helix Dreadlock

You wanna h/h try shards on HM?
Theres hell right there

shards of orr on H/H NM is a pain in the ass. I am scared to even try HM H/H, but i may do it for the shiggles.

Trinity Fire Angel

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2007

The Desert

Legions of Engalion [自由]

Mo/W

29 Jun 2009 at 01:59 - 58

@ Tender Wolf. I hope you are not trolling....

Seriously, I did this in hardmode. not too hard really... Take Tease for the Incubi, an MM for the corpses, take ROJ monk for the fun. ---> Smite Condition / Smite Hex ---> try my team if you can;t make it, we did it in HM with 3 people and 5 hench.

if you have never played HA, then you might not know what Teaseway is.... we needed to play a form of teaseway only cause my two friend's were ele's and we needed to pwn the incukthxbai

Me: HB Infuse Monk (I play this cause i enjoy playing the Infuse Bar) - OwUTMwGDVikoBcjIua67jAAwEA
hero1: Sabway Variant MM - OANTUYT2SapqKANQBcRIB0opqC
hero2: Tease Smite Monk Mo/Me - OwUTMUHDxxnmBwrUfXi1fhIAA
hero3: ROJ Smite for Heros - OwUTMQHD1xnR9dJ4VrfGAAIAA

Friend1: SH - E/P - OgljowMpZOkViRRsXgMuxfYcB (Take Fall back instead of Make Haste)
Friend2: Unsteady Ground Ele - OghjkwMaIO7wTRrIWgMSFZskL

Hero4: HAMMMER TIME !!!! - OQASE5JPhawyShpAA4rGWBA (Consider Earth Shakkkkkkur or DEV Hammer as elite options)
Hero5: Everybody needs a prot monk - LS Prot - OwUTMwHDVaMSLKDQg4uqm4B0EA

Consider taking something like "Waste Not Want Not", inspired Hex, drain enchant, or power drain for the monks for energy control and MOER INTERRUPOTS.

There... try in NM first for fun. Take your guild mates with you to HA for similar results. (except for the MM and all the heros...)

Tender Wolf

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2007

All over Tyria, Cantha, & Elona

The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]

R/

29 Jun 2009 at 02:59 - 59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aeon221

I am shocked, shocked, that Captain Failbot is also a bigot.

How about instead of hating on hypothetical homosexuals, you take on something more your mental size.

Like, I dunno, a rock. Maybe. Sometimes rocks are pretty crafty. And mostly you're just dumb.

Guide to beating dungeon for failbots:

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Bogroot_Growths

Holy carp! It's, like, all spelled out for you! But, hey, I don't want to presume. Perhaps you still need help! After all, you're so incompetent that you blaim Anet for your normal mode failure!

http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Category:G...vE_team_builds

I know choosing is hard for someone whose conception of a good build is two of every cookie cutter, but maybe you can manage to pick from one of the best of the literally hundreds of teams that would be more effective than your own.

Hah, who am I kidding. Any team you chose would still have the liability known as you on it. Good luck! You'll need it, apparently.

So why does THIS post get to stay and mine gets removed? Good going mods, that doesn't make any sense.

So I'll once again say kiss my butt. Just because you can troll/flame people for no reason and post links doesn't make you leet sauce. You don't have to be a jerk about it.

ShadowsRequiem

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Inde is Smoking [Hawt] *ToA*

W/E

29 Jun 2009 at 03:13 - 60

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tender Wolf

So why does THIS post get to stay and mine gets removed? Good going mods, that doesn't make any sense.

So I'll once again say kiss my butt. Just because you can troll/flame people for no reason and post links doesn't make you leet sauce. You don't have to be a jerk about it.

imo tender you should KNOW what is going to happen when you post a thread like this.... I mean come on.

He just posted info that could be seen by anyone, given that instead of posting OMFG THIS DUNGEON IS SO HARDZ HALPS!?! WTF ANET NERF PLZ! you could have simply gone to wiki and avoided this whole problem.

I think you might have learned this time...

Aeon221

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

[TEW]

N/

29 Jun 2009 at 03:46 - 61

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tender Wolf

So why does THIS post get to stay and mine gets removed? Good going mods, that doesn't make any sense.

So I'll once again say kiss my butt. Just because you can troll/flame people for no reason and post links doesn't make you leet sauce. You don't have to be a jerk about it.

You think I'm trying to look leet because I posted wiki links. Man, I guess I must have been spot on in comparing you to a rock.

Not that I want to insult rocks by claiming you're anywhere near as competent as one of them, but, hey, at least you're not faking it. You cop to what you are. Right on, my one-day-as-smart-as-a-rock brotha!

And you're right, I didn't have to be a jerk. I also didn't have to not be a jerk. Maybe you should re-read your posts and try to figure out why I, jackanapes as I am, might have felt compelled to do so?

In any event, your canard-ic accusation of poseur behavior on my part leads me to believe that you have utterly failed to grasp my point -- which, I must admit, doesn't surprise me in the least. Therefore, I shall expand upon it forthwith! And in no uncertain terms!

You, or rather your attitude, is the true impediment to your goal of dungeon destruction. Rather than immediately attempting to improve yourself by accessing the readily available resources -- some of which I have provided you -- you came here and whined and accused people of being flamers (the word that tee'd ME off) and jerks and such.

Next time you run into what seems an unpossible obstacle that OMG ANET MUST REMOVE FOR ME BECAUSE I AM THE MEDIAN PLAYER, consider attempting to learn rather than moaning. I 100% guarantee that it will both work better and engender better responses from those around you. And, heyo, it also works in real life.

Ain't that grand?

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

29 Jun 2009 at 04:49 - 62

Any Mission, quest, or dungeon is only "too hard" when the party isn't properly equipped to handle what they're about to face. That's the bottom line. The reason many people here say "it's easy" is because they found ways to make it easy. They didn't sit back and go "ooooh, nerf that!"

Before THK was nerfed, the good players figured out the best strategies for beating it. Players who wouldn't LEARN from their failures got stuck there and QQ'd about it being "too hard." And A-Net listened and now THK is a joke - even in HM.

If every mission, dungeon, and quest were beatable with the same team build, it would be a very boring game indeed!

MagmaRed

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2007

Our Crabs Know True [LOVE]

R/

29 Jun 2009 at 06:12 - 63

Bogroot has been done by a LOT of people. If has been done by a lot of those people using only heroes and hench. It has even been done a lot by those people in both NM and HM. So there is an obviously large amount of people who figured out how to get this dungeon done, without asking for Anet to change it.

You have trial and error available to learn how to succeed.
You have Wiki and Wikia available to learn how to succeed.
You have forums like this one and several others available to learn how to succeed.
I assume you have guild/alliance mates that can help you as well, or at least people in your friends list.

If something is too difficult for you, but other people are doing it, learn to improve. If yuo find something that nobody else has done, or nobody else can do, THEN ask for it to be changed.

AmbientMelody

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2009

Poland

N/A

29 Jun 2009 at 10:19 - 64

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tender Wolf

I've got Pain Inverter and Technobabble and whenever I try to run past them they hex me to death and all the heroes die in the mob so I can't res them.

GG ANet, make this impossible. This game isn't even fun anymore.

Go make it with the guild/friends. Stop this hero/hench nonsense. No, I'm not saying you have to PUG.

Spike Stritter

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

W/

29 Jun 2009 at 10:26 - 65

aggro control from the beginning = win

Kattar

EXCESSIVE FLUTTERCUSSING

Join Date: Mar 2007

SMS (lolgw2placeholder)

Me/

29 Jun 2009 at 11:13 - 66

As Arkantos mentioned. I don't see much reason for this thread to continue.

A word of advice, if you're going to be overly sensitive and huffy (this is not directed at Tender Wolf, this is for everyone) I'd suggested you unplug your computer from the internet and find another way to occupy your time.