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Helix Dreadlock

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2009

Imperial Sanctum

Legendary Drunken Masters [DUI]

E/Me

02 Jul 2009 at 22:53 - 1

Here's a thread to improve your money. So I thought we could make it a chain link, kind of throw our ideas together

So, I'm listing these many:

Dungeon Runs: Doing dungeons as a party, or running them. You can get a lot of money running them, but it takes experience and frustration. Some people like to mess it up or not pay, and you have to cope with it sometimes. Either way, you get LoD treasures, quest rewards, drops, and endchest rewards.

Farming: Do a lot of farming. If you find a good, uncommon one, you can get a lot of money. It will get boring quickly though, so it isn't recommended. Sometimes you can also farm feathers, dust, bones, ect. and get a lot of money from the salvages too.

Merching every white, blue, and purple item not useable/wanted: Id blues+purps, ect. A very easy to do, but not worth the time mentioning to some people trick. You can also salvage things to earn a lot of materials, and save a lot when going to craft armor/weapons, ect.

What would YOU want to ad?

Also, sorry mods, been having a hard time putting these threads, because it isn't REALLY a farming thread

Tender Wolf

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2007

All over Tyria, Cantha, & Elona

The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]

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02 Jul 2009 at 22:55 - 2

One of my money making methods is to collect imperial commondations, Kournan coins, Luxon totems, equipment requisitions, and trade contracts. I use all but the trade contracts to get superior salvage kits, which I sell for 1k each to the merchant. It adds up fast. Of course the trade contracts are used to get and sell gems.

Sometimes I'll go keg farming but I haven't done that since the nerf. I sell all materials, rare and common, that I don't need and I have a store here on Guru where I sell items I don't need. My only other means of income are Zaishen keys. I tried selling some victory tokens just now but, unlike last year when they went for 30k a stack, I got only 8k for one stack. Not worth the grind in my opinion.

i farm baddies

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2009

02 Jul 2009 at 23:04 - 3

easiest way, farm about 30e or more from uwsc and then powertrade...its that easy

Shadowmere

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

The Grim Squeakers [REAP]

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02 Jul 2009 at 23:06 - 4

in addition to actually picking up and subsequently merching all your drops try id-ing all your white items instead of just blues and such that require id-ing. Outside of low level areas the increase to the value of white items by id-ing very quickly covers the cost of id kits and gives you greater profit.

Helix Dreadlock

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2009

Imperial Sanctum

Legendary Drunken Masters [DUI]

E/Me

02 Jul 2009 at 23:09 - 5

You can also sell dyes to the trader. While 10g may not be much, they tend to add up quickly when farming, such as oranged, browns, ect. from raptors. 10g/ea x about 100 is 1k from just the dyes. Or you can save to dye your armor lol.

While 1g at the merchant isn't a lot, 10g at the trader can be a lot

MisterB

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy

[ban]

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02 Jul 2009 at 23:10 - 6

Guild Wars does not have to be about money or items. Everything you need to play well can be easily obtained through normal play. Skills, armor, runes, and weapons are the only necessities in this game, and free, cheap, or collector and crafter options are easily accessible. Ignoring the player economy works for me. All the stuff you can spend excess gold on is optional.

Helix Dreadlock

Jungle Guide

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Imperial Sanctum

Legendary Drunken Masters [DUI]

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02 Jul 2009 at 23:32 - 7

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterB

Guild Wars does not have to be about money or items. Everything you need to play well can be easily obtained through normal play. Skills, armor, runes, and weapons are the only necessities in this game, and free, cheap, or collector and crafter options are easily accessible. Ignoring the player economy works for me. All the stuff you can spend excess gold on is optional.

That had nothing to contribute to this thread lol.

I'm talking about people that care, MisterB.

MisterB

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Join Date: Oct 2005

Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy

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02 Jul 2009 at 23:38 - 8

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helix Dreadlock

That had nothing to contribute to this thread lol.

I'm talking about people that care, MisterB.

Actually, it does. Ignoring the artificial player economy is my method to improve my economy. See thread title.

The economy you speak of is artificial in nature and completely optional.

Only the optional "elite" weapons and armor cost more in game. They don't have any increase in effectiveness.

Trader of Secrets

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

02 Jul 2009 at 23:40 - 9

get a monk or sin, and some cash to start off, an alliance to rush u to farming/run spots would b helpful

Wish Swiftdeath

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2007

Mo/W

03 Jul 2009 at 00:39 - 10

really... just don't spend your money on stupid shit.

I realised that I was buying all this stuff that I didn't really need, pretty easily within a week of normal playing I'm able to buy stuff like armbraces/celestial compasses and chaos gloves etc.

Bob Slydell

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

03 Jul 2009 at 01:10 - 11

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterB

Actually, it does. Ignoring the artificial player economy is my method to improve my economy. See thread title.

The economy you speak of is artificial in nature and completely optional.

Only the optional "elite" weapons and armor cost more in game. They don't have any increase in effectiveness.

I Actually agree with you 100%

All the good looking gear that's out there.. it is max spec, the same max specs can be found on cheap weapons and armor as well.

This guy knows what he is talking about Helix, but I don't blame you if you don't understand. Most people on guru don't understand anything people like me and MisterB say, but thats fine, you guys can enjoy making your game into a zealous addicting way of life where you will never be happy with the stuff you own by trading constantly and me and MisterB will enjoy our game experiences until the day the game dies.

EDIT: Wow i sounded like a serious troll there, why is the old gameamp.com ways rubbing off on me?

Gift3d

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Las Vegas

Enraged Whiny Carebears [oR]

W/E

03 Jul 2009 at 01:12 - 12

but if i said how i became so rich then everyone who read it would try and do it then ruin business for me. the same goes for every other original and efficient way people may have, so that's why you'll only get 'sell stuff run stuff farm stuff' in this thread. herp derp.

Helix Dreadlock

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2009

Imperial Sanctum

Legendary Drunken Masters [DUI]

E/Me

03 Jul 2009 at 01:13 - 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrisworld

I Actually agree with you 100%

All the good looking gear that's out there.. it is max spec, the same max specs can be found on cheap weapons and armor as well.

This guy knows what he is talking about Helix, but I don't blame you if you don't understand. Most people on guru don't understand anything people like me and MisterB say, but thats fine, you guys can enjoy making your game into a zealous addicting way of life where you will never be happy with the stuff you own by trading constantly and me and MisterB will enjoy our game experiences until the day the game dies.

EDIT: Wow i sounded like a serious troll there, why is the old gameamp.com ways rubbing off on me?

I understand completely, but I wanted those that don't completely enjoy the game to find ways to improve their banks and stop the threads of "how can I make money by doing..."

I do enjoy the game completely, but one of the other reasons I play is to enjoy my friend's company, and to make a lot of money.

It's not that I'm never happy :P

Defiling Treekiller

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2009

Stopshovelling were not Dead yet[WURM]

Mo/Me

03 Jul 2009 at 01:47 - 14

I agree with the posts of id'ing everything from EOTN and HM areas it really does boost the value , and if you love AB or other CMthen selling Zkeys works for me

IronSheik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2008

Wolfenstein: Goldrush

Zombies Go Nom Nom [Nom]

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03 Jul 2009 at 01:52 - 15

Spend 50 bucks on 10 proph accounts and farm zkeys.

Dzjudz

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz

03 Jul 2009 at 01:57 - 16

Quote:

Originally Posted by IronSheik

Spend 50 bucks on 10 proph accounts and farm zkeys.

They need to fix XTH first

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Helix Dreadlock

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2009

Imperial Sanctum

Legendary Drunken Masters [DUI]

E/Me

03 Jul 2009 at 01:59 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dzjudz

They need to fix XTH first

.

They're giving our points out first......right?!

Vilaptca

Pre-Searing Vanquisher

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

03 Jul 2009 at 02:29 - 18

Bad thread title.

More people with more money does not improve economy.

Your thread is about how to make money, and has very little to do with the economy at all.

tumatae

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2007

in a box

[HERO]

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03 Jul 2009 at 02:39 - 19

how about the most basic rule of dont buy what you dont really need and spend less?

Xiao Erh

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2008

Zero The Company [ZERO]

D/Mo

03 Jul 2009 at 04:17 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrisworld

I Actually agree with you 100%

All the good looking gear that's out there.. it is max spec, the same max specs can be found on cheap weapons and armor as well.

This guy knows what he is talking about Helix, but I don't blame you if you don't understand. Most people on guru don't understand anything people like me and MisterB say, but thats fine, you guys can enjoy making your game into a zealous addicting way of life where you will never be happy with the stuff you own by trading constantly and me and MisterB will enjoy our game experiences until the day the game dies.

EDIT: Wow i sounded like a serious troll there, why is the old gameamp.com ways rubbing off on me?

Please do not debunk the OP because seriously, if GW is all about how YOU enjoy your game experiences, make your own thread about it. Surprisingly there are many players who does not subscribe to your beliefs, hence the existence of mini-pets, everlasting tonics, elite armors, weapons etc, etc. I leave it to you and those of the same ilk to wonder what GW will be like if everyone just play the game like you. Forget the festivals, gifts, Nicholas, farming and just play the game. Don't tell 'others on Guru' they do not understand anything' because that is downright patronizing.

ryan__ryan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

Canada

Vanquished Memories [VM]

Mo/

03 Jul 2009 at 04:58 - 21

ok anyone who PvEs and says its not about the money and buying cool stuff u are clearly high
what else would u use money for?

EDIT: to contribute to the thread i would say... make a sin do UWSC get some quick ectos... play HA--> hold halls during dead hour and hope for rare drops from the chest(ive goten 2 crystallines r10 and r9) --> i havent had to farm/powertrade/or any of that since... also pvping is way funner than pveing once u get into it... kinda tough for new people to get into it know tho

Scary

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

Uhmmmm??

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

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03 Jul 2009 at 05:48 - 22

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryan__ryan

ok anyone who PvEs and says its not about the money and buying cool stuff u are clearly high
what else would u use money for?
(

Uhm... speechless.. O w8 something is coming up.. yep must be couse I'm high or something.

Ok..PvE about money

really you got me there.
Like almost 7000 hours, playd over 4 years and I still have just around 40 K atm. Ok got some nice armors and weapons. But PvE for me is playing a game as I want it. not about economics or money,

So who is high, the one that clearly sees that GW is a game. or the one that thinks a game is about economics and money.

Peace m8

shoyon456

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

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03 Jul 2009 at 05:57 - 23

For those individuals who already have a bit of change in their pockets, but need a little more for some reason, minipets are a good quick turn around. I don't mean high end minis, I mean mid range ones like gwen. Generally speaking, you can find old players just returning, or simply new players that don't know the value of their minis, and can get good ones for fairly cheap if you advertise for them correctly. In many cases, people simply get frustrated trying to sell the mini at its true value, and willingly sell it much cheaper.

The general idea is to advertise to buy ALL minis, and everytime you get a pm, ask what they have and the amount they are looking for or b/o. You will get many "duds" through this method, simply ignore the pms from these. However, with a certain amount of luck you will have some success. This is not scamming as those people are willingly selling you the mini at the cost they think is appropriate.

The danger of this:
-You may get stuck in the same position as many other ppl - being unable to sell the mini for a profit, and taking a loss. The best insurance of this is not to buy minis for only slightly under their market price. Try to get them for a minimum of 20k under the norm price. Another insurance is to stay with more recent minis. 1st and 2nd year minis are becoming more common all the time, and thus also harder to sell.

If you decide to try this, don't be afraid to go for a bold price. If a seller is unwilling to give you a price, offer him at least 30-40k under the price and simply lay off if he seems to know his prices. If a seller gives you an already low price, try to push it a little farther - usually about 10k more depending on the seller, the price he gave, and the mini.

This is good for those who already have some startup plat and a little patience, but have become bored with farming. Its like the baby version of powertrading.

IMPORTANT NOTE: look at what minis are common, despite the price you can get it for, as this will affect how quickly you can sell the mini and your profit margin.

freakdaddy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ohio, USA

Tales of Heroes[myth]

A/Me

03 Jul 2009 at 06:06 - 24

powertrade (need patience)
and
farm materials (feathers, dust, ectos, shards etc...) what ever is hot on the streets atm.

seriously ppl stick to the topic and stop flaming err this is guru nvm thats what we do here.

TheMusicLife

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2009

Heroes Of The Kurzick [vYv]

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03 Jul 2009 at 08:19 - 25

I use my Elementalist and Warrior to farm feathers. NM Jaya Bluffs. Takes about 45 minutes to 1 hour to get a stack. I then sell that stack of feathers for 10k to someone in Spamadan. It got me my Everlasting Cottontail tonic.

Stop The Storm

Keeping DoA Alive

Join Date: Jan 2007

England

Were In [DoA]

A/N

03 Jul 2009 at 09:47 - 26

I think my biggest tip would be, dont keep looking at how much money you got. Just do your everyday things like urgoz, zmissions, etc etc and itll slowly creep its way up without you noticing.

If you want instant big money, then learn DoA or sit in Kamadan for hours on end power trading.

the_jos

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Hard Mode Legion [HML]

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03 Jul 2009 at 11:15 - 27

Stop spending. That's all you need to know to improve 'your' economy.

And to ryan__ryan: guess I'm high then

I play PvE to enjoy doing some stuff with friends and guildies.
They ain't into PvP and I'm still not sure if I want to switch to pure PvP.
Stupid pain in my shoulder isn't helping either since I want to be serious when playing PvP. It was almost gone and I was able to play again and *ploink* it was back again when I looked over my shoulder when riding my bike.
But for most players PvE will be about goodies and gold indeed.

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

03 Jul 2009 at 11:18 - 28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vilaptca

Bad thread title.

More people with more money does not improve economy.

Your thread is about how to make money, and has very little to do with the economy at all.

Good thread title.

Quote:

How To Improve YOUR Economy

Emphasis on the "YOUR". The OP is starting a discussion on money saving and money making ideas for optimizing the individual's finances and not shifting the game's global economy in to producing mass wealth.

~~~

On topic:

I find that con sets are a reliable way to make money. I use materials that I find throughout general gameplay and buy other materials that I don't have so that I can craft cons and sell in ToA. I'll never own a Kanaxai or Panda off of those earnings but I get by.

The benefit of consumables is that they're always in high demand and don't take long to sell, which is ideal for those who hate standing around and spamming.

Riot Narita

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

03 Jul 2009 at 13:08 - 29

Don't forget to run round all the unlocked treasure locations every now and then for free gold and itamz! Mind you, they don't seem as generous as they used be, but whatever.

Personally, I don't care for expensive rare-but-ugly weapons or armour, rare minipets everlasting tonics etc. No use to me, and I don't care about e-peen. I've also maxed all the money-sink titles I wanted. So I don't need to farm, and my money just piles up from "regular" play. Like others above, that's how I improve my economy - remove the "need" for large amounts of money.

I don't get rich though, because every now and then, I'll spend my stash on making consumables, summoning stones, improve my heroes' equipment etc. I don't particularly need such things, but they let me do things quicker when I want to.

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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03 Jul 2009 at 13:44 - 30

Without farming and trading, the best way to acquire wealth is questing.
In Prophecies you'll save in skills instead earning much, though.

fb2000

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

03 Jul 2009 at 13:51 - 31

Stack up on holidays items - even tho I guess we'd be a bit late atm

. Still, I have around 15 stacks of clovers (costed me like ~40k a stack), 15 stacks bday cupcakes (~55k), eggs and bunnies (~25k eggs, ~55k bunnies). Haven't played since the bday celebration and just saw my investments have shot up a bit

.

Easiest is just the Xunlai tournament betting, but it seems it didnt work out a couple (?) of times

Helix Dreadlock

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2009

Imperial Sanctum

Legendary Drunken Masters [DUI]

E/Me

03 Jul 2009 at 22:55 - 32

Wow, this went from a thread of lists, to a flame thread and serious argueing. (spelling?)

I know you don't NEED this stuff, but some people like it, and I'm trying to make a list of ways that they can get it. Oh, and the "stop spending", "buy the things you need" posts, maybe it's all some people enjoy, because they finished PvE and PvP is boring or frustrating/un-enjoyable.

Aeon221

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

[TEW]

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03 Jul 2009 at 23:43 - 33

God I hate cable news. Now anytime someone wants to talk about money, economics is involved. Journalists should be rounded up and provided with a real education.

Folks, it's the study of interrelated systems that may or may not involve money. Plenty of economists make a career out of studying health care, education, and sumo wrestling, and much of their research is focused on outcomes and utility rather than purely financial matters.

A more appropriate title would be "How to improve your finances!"

Or

"Rich Gamer, Poor Gamer"

pOmrAkkUn

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Bangkok

Me/Mo

04 Jul 2009 at 01:58 - 34

55 or 600 to farm for the item Nicolas want. People will pay 3k at the first day and 1-2k later up to how hard to farm.

Wyndy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2008

in the know

Chronic Chaos

N/Me

04 Jul 2009 at 03:06 - 35

Remember to sell extra materials to traders instead of merchant. Some of them are worth quite a bit more that way.

Shadowmere

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

The Grim Squeakers [REAP]

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04 Jul 2009 at 04:32 - 36

Quote:

Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

Without farming and trading, the best way to acquire wealth is questing.
In Prophecies you'll save in skills instead earning much, though.

This is quite good thing to do, in prophecies core classes can potentially save a lot of platinum from skill quests and in other campaigns quest reward collectables (particularly vabbian trade contracts) can generate a good amount of cash as well.

Sub-Zero

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2009

[VILE]

E/

04 Jul 2009 at 04:41 - 37

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterB

Actually, it does. Ignoring the artificial player economy is my method to improve my economy. See thread title.

The economy you speak of is artificial in nature and completely optional.

Only the optional "elite" weapons and armor cost more in game. They don't have any increase in effectiveness.

QFT, ive lost the will to even want to buy those "elite" items especially since everyone basically has it

Accursed

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

04 Jul 2009 at 17:06 - 38

I have found that throughout my entire three years of playing Guild Wars, I have never had over 50k at a time. This would mean that I have a fairly average wallet, but I would always spend it all for, let's say, an elite armor or a single weapon. I was stupid and young.

Since I got back into the game with a new account (previous one was hacked), I only had 1.6k. I'm in a tight budget, but I still see that if you are extremely serious about not spending any money at all than you can get some large amount of cash within a month. Instead of saving, I've decided to spend over half of my 1.6k on a weapon that I found was in my budget and would most likely last me throughout HM, etc. Overall, spending my first 1k would save me over 100k in weapons that a person would normally buy as they progress in the game. That's the key to this economy and surviving Guild Wars - Having a budget and buying items which will, in turn, save a lot more money than you'd expect.

Pikey

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

United Kingdom

Mo/

04 Jul 2009 at 19:33 - 39

I find the majority of my money gets wasted from trying out new builds and getting the equipment for such builds.

You just got tomahawked

Krytan Explorer

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H-Town

The Battle Bakery [vPie]

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04 Jul 2009 at 20:16 - 40

Quote:

Originally Posted by IronSheik

Spend 50 bucks on 10 proph accounts and farm zkeys.

$5 an account? I'm confused.