What is meant by "cheat synching" in PvP?

Okay, I have definitely run across teams that actually do call and follow. That's almost cheating in RA since I've never been on a team that can do that.

Still, I did run into the assassin once that I just thought was ubelievably fast. She had me dead before I could get off a basic skill chain. I mean not even close. During the 1s cast time of my hex, I was hurt, and by the time I moved into my chain, I was dead. Literally under 3 seconds for a full 500+ health bar.

Now, I did notice when I looked at the skill chain that killed me that there were a lot of paragon skills. Now that I have heard the phrase "synch cheating," I'm guessing that's what the P and the A were doing? They nailed me on the rez too in like 4s.

I didn't understand at the time why, when I found the assassin on another team, she wasn't so hot. I was worried about her, so I made sure to get an SS on her early. She basically just typed backtalk at me from there and didn't do anything. We totally clobbered her team like 13 to 3 on the kill count map.

Ok, so how do they do it? Is it just an illegal mod or something? How do you even know if someone else is on your team using the mod if so? How do you synch up? I assume there's nothing you can do, or can you report it? It's always scary to report when they actually ban people for reporting.

In RA, it's just making sure you all press the enter battle button as close together as you can. With a bit of luck, you and your desired teammates will all be teamed together, giving you an unfair advantage as you're builds and professions will synergise.

It's not a mod, hack, cheat, or anything like that, but it's definately an exploit which needs to be fixed.

Likely, but not needed. It could also just be that the paragon was watching the field and assisted in the spike, I tend to do that too when playing offensive midline.


Anyway, as Marty said, syncing is not a cheat or hack. It's synchronized entering of the RA match, usually in abandoned districts, which gives a high likelyhood of being on the same team as someone else. This gives you an advantage in the form of being able to coordinate builds and have extra communication available (such as ventrilo).

I don't understand these people, why don't they use Team Arenas if they want to play together?

Because they suck at TA, or they RA first to get the 10 win streak, which they could get in TA if they didn't well...suck

And people that sync in DA make me lol, I'd like to see them on the PuG side of the match. They wouldn't want to DA either.

Maybe they can't win there and need advantages like this?

What the hell are you on about? Just because we sync together doesn't mean we 'only' ever play when syncing together. Lots of DA syncers play with pugs. It's a lot more fun...

Personally, I find nothing wrong with syncing. I do it with my friend when we have the time because well, its more fun to RA with friends than random people.
Also, the quality of RA players has become so bad that many times, I am forced to monk for more than four minutes with a great looking team just because they can't get one kill, and I die after. It really helps to have a friend who can go out there and kill the other monk in 30 sec with dev hammer or backline and provide constant pressure with a ff/soul bind necro. We can get 10 rather consistently, even when the other two players aren't good.

ROFL, you dont find anything wrong cuz u do it, you like feelin like you are better than people when u do sync & if u wanna be on friends teams so bad go ta or something
anet needs to make like only 2 people r able to hit enter battle per dis. at the same time or somethin im at dragon arena & there is like 20 syncers that are just pissing everyone off

Call and follow isn't cheating, it's teamwork. Hard to come by not only in RA but everywhere else too.

Syncing has a grey area in other modes like JQ/FA since there is no team version on those sides. But then again syncing on Kurzick = frustrating lol.

Agreed refer.

What happened to you was not syncing. You just got beaten by a better team.

Syncing does not happen that often in RA. I think I've faced about 5 sync teams total in all my time in RA (which is a lot more time then I'm willing to admit). A lot of people think syncers are a much bigger problem then they are because they assume that when they lose to a good team, that good team must have synced. But that's bogus. Syncing teams always have a very well balanced classes. ie, if there isn't a monk, then it isn't a sync. If there is a sin and a paragon, no way there is a sync.

I actually have been accused of syncing like 5 or 6 times, but have never done it once. Having a good team does not mean you cheated. Several times I've been accused of syncing when our team didn't even have a healer. Clearly we were not syncing. New players need to stop blaming their losses on phantom syncers, and get better.

It probably isn't a sync if there is no Monk BUT there is not always a Monk to sync with, so it could very well still be a sync still. People don't all play balanced and proper, sometimes they just sync for fun even if not that compatible. Any syncing in my mind is cheating in RA though. It's supposed to be random. Even if only 2 people sync they could be really powerful with the right bars.

ive ended up b4 in a team of 3 eles from the same HA guild,a easy 10 wins

Word... Well put and end of discussion.

If you stay in American Districts, it's unlikely that you'll ever face a sync team. Just stay away from the other districts and you'll be fine.

Though I agree that the OP likely didn't face a sync, I do disagree with the quoted. As previously noted, if you RA in American districts you will likely not see a sync in a couple hundred matches. Late night ID RA on the other hand will frequently produce 1 in ~8-10 matches being a sync. Fortunately a lot of them are pretty bad, and get rolled even by RA teams.

The thing that pisses me off about it all is that in an extremely close match they'll shit talk the RA team until it gets booted.

Then if you hate it so much, stay in American like I do. The fact that I have been accused of syncing when I haven't means the problem is a lot smaller then perceived. I'm sure I'm not the only one that has happened to.

What's DA?

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Dragon Arena.

Because it's not very fun to sit around for 5-10 mins in between each match only to play some lame build in TA. Most people who sync RA do it because it's a quick and casual way you can play short games with friends.

regarding my spelling:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sync

Doesn't sound like much of a cheat to me then. ...mostly because I used to do this with one other friend in RA. The two of us were almost never on the same team. We did not use International though. He told me that does work. We saw a 4 team in RA all from the same guild, and he said that's what they did.

It's called Random Arena. If you are making it purposely not random, then it's cheating. What if you could force whatever lottery numbers you wanted... would you not consider that cheating too?

it doesn't happen often in American because of the sheer number of people but in other dist like polish its pretty easy because of the lack of people. it is cheating because its meant to be random, if your altering that somehow then your not going by the law. Also they don't TA because most who do TA actually do it in coordination, where as RA syncers do it because normal teams in RA suck so bad most of the time that even an uncoordinated but balanced team can win against them.

Problem i find in RA is, clearly some people have been so used to this syncing, that when a real random team comes in and kicks there ass, they all shout cheat cheat cheating sync noobs bla bla

I never play RA, and i took a water ele in there the other day for fun, and i just cast deep freeze + maelstrom ( was just messing around really ) and my random team had a warrior, monk, and another ele only running fire, and most of the teams i came against where noobs who just stood in maelstrom and wondered why they could cast, while the fire ele nuked them,

Many times i had people saying we where cheating syncing noobs etc, ive never played RA since, i dont have time for cry babies in a video game.

Because Team Arenas is filled with lame gimmicks that you have to run if you want any chance of having success. RA you can goof off in and win because no one is organized so you can run what you want, have fun and collect balthazar faction.

It has nothing to do with not being good enough for TA and everything to do with the fact that TA is stupidly broken and destroying people in RA is just fun.

That being said, I don't synch because everyone who I used to play with quit so I only PvE or RA alone as my ranger now. But the answer to why others do is fairly obvious.

EDIT: I know that was an old post I responded to but that question gets asked a lot still today so I figured I'd give my answer to it anyway.

I'm glad 2 from RA. I've not seen that many syncers in American. Again, while it is a problem (I'm not denying tha t), it is NOWHERE NEAR as bad as what most people claim. Again, due to the fact that there are so many false positives (ie, I've been accused of syncing when I'm not), I'm sure the perceptions of people make the problem seem worse then it really is. My first post was mostly dirrected at the OP and others who clearly have no idea WTF syncing even is, and just use it as a crunch when they lose.