Don't let people sync!

NeHoMaR

NeHoMaR

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Join Date: Feb 2006

Dear, ArenaNet. Please develop a REAL random system (like a virtual dice) for every random place in the game, like Random Arenas, Dragon Arena, and so on.

So, when someone click in Start button, players are NOT added to a linear wait list, but added to a real random pool (random calculations, random seconds to start, etc), making synchronization impossible.

This not only will help to have genuine random teams, plus enjoying the original idea of that places, but also it will help to promote not random places like Team Arenas. So all (IMO, cowards and exploiters) syncers people will go serious and play versus organized teams, as it's supposed to be.

Reverend Dr

Reverend Dr

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Join Date: Dec 2005

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Remove glad points.

Syncing problems, leaching problems, and leaving problems all magically solved.

Tearz1993

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reverend Dr View Post
Remove glad points.

Syncing problems, leaching problems, and leaving problems all magically solved.
You mean play this game for fun?

No way.

Mad Lord of Milk

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Join Date: Jul 2009

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Why are people whining about syncing? If you stay in American Districts, you're unaffected by syncing because of the enormous population.

And don't pretend like you're complaining to preserve the "purity" of the game, because this game is as impure as it gets.

Don't call syncers cowards and exploiters, because what they're doing is what every PvE player does to get their precious titles. Might as well even the playing field.

Stop this QQ thread immediately

DoomFrost

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Join Date: May 2005

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Solution: Make the Gladiator title exclusive to Team Arenas.

Marverick

Marverick

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Join Date: Aug 2006

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Solution: make people in Dragon Arena and Jade Quarry/Fort Aspenwood form teams before entering.

Oh and delete RA from teh game.

Antares Ascending

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I think that if a group of players are smart enough to sync then good for them. Get in a guild and sync to. Team play and all that

NeHoMaR

NeHoMaR

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Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Antares Ascending View Post
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I think that if a group of players are smart enough to sync then good for them. Get in a guild and sync to. Team play and all that
I agree about syncing is a "smart" move, actually every type of exploiting is smart; you need to be smart to exploit a game. Here is when developers fix things, to avoid exploits; and YES! syncing is an exploit.

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Originally Posted by Mad Lord of Milk View Post
Why are people whining about syncing? If you stay in American Districts, you're unaffected by syncing because of the enormous population.

And don't pretend like you're complaining to preserve the "purity" of the game, because this game is as impure as it gets.

Don't call syncers cowards and exploiters, because what they're doing is what every PvE player does to get their precious titles. Might as well even the playing field.

Stop this QQ thread immediately
Yeah, I expected a syncer will be defending self in my thread! and talk about all the whining and QQing, not a surprise, all opinions are welcome!

Now, seriously; I personally think syncing is pure exploiting and a unfair way to play this game; and that's the reason of my thread, a constructive suggestion. I cannot understand why you could disagree with a so logic thinking. I could even sync myself if I want, but that way to play will be too easy and boring for me, because I play for fun.

Obviously, even when I play for fun, I cannot allow to play versus people using "tricks" easily fixable by the developers team of ArenaNet. This is not about skill balance.

Regulus X

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Crying about syncing = skilless impotent scrubs that can't stand Competition

Remove Glad Points = Removing the point and highlight of RA

Testing Builds = Balth Temple [GO THERE TO TEST ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING YOU WANT & STOP USING RAers as your PERSONAL GUINEA PIGS!]

Random = imbalanced anyhow, so what's the point of even Qqing over losing to SYNCers if you're gonna LOSE to random balanced groups regardless anyway? Just cowboy up and lose with your mending/healbreeze builds and waste your time like every other non-resigning joke player and/or failure in RA does. For future reference, children have WAAAY more time to waste than us adults, so they don't care to resign and actually feast on the rest of the anguished players that don't posess this same pool of time simply out of childish malice.

DarkNecrid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

They already said countless times they want to fix this but it requires a lot of programming and server work sooooo.

Operative 14

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Join Date: Nov 2006

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Umm.. Why? :/

NeHoMaR

NeHoMaR

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Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Regulus X View Post
... skilless impotent scrubs that can't stand Competition
That exactly syncers are, cannot find a better description. If they go to TA, they LOSE.

MithranArkanere

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Join Date: Nov 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Regulus X View Post
Syncing = skilless impotent scrubs that can't stand Competition.
[...]
Random = Random
Here, fixed for you.

Random party formation means you don't control the party you want to go.
If you do control the party, you are not forming a random party (yeah, pretty obvious, but still there is VERY dense people out there).

If you really wanted ompetition, you would go to TA, instead going to RA, sync, and leave when you are sent to TA.
So, if you sync, is because you "can't stand Competition" in TA.
That is, people that sync, do so to find random parties with formed parties, to have the advantage of skill synergy and planification formed parties have over random parties.

So, don't come here saying that people that refuse sync do so because they can't play, because people that can play will go to Team Arenas and play, and those that can't will resort to sync to try gain some advantage over players than do not sync.

Anyone against removing sync is just afraid of losing their 'cheap gladiator points'. There is absolutely NO other reason.
Once they fix it, and they will, learn to play and deal with it.

IronSheik

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If RA DA and AB were meant to have organized teams, there'd be a party box.

I can see if two friends want to sync for general fun, whatever, but having teams do it for Glad and Gamer points is just ridiculous because they can't win the regular way.

notskorn

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Join Date: Oct 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by NeHoMaR View Post
That exactly syncers are, cannot find a better description. If they go to TA, they LOSE.
Same thing would probably happen if you went to GVG

Gift3d

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Join Date: Feb 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Regulus X View Post
Crying about syncing = skilless impotent scrubs that can't stand Competition
#1 clueless statement on guildwarsguru.com of 2009 award goes to.....

*drumroll*

...It defeats the whole purpose of random arenas.

"guise we sux 2 much ballsack 2 get one win in TA wut shud we do i need glad title!!11"
"Don't worry guys! Everyone load up a bar from http://pvx.wikia.com/ and meet up in RA traditional chinese district 1!"

I'm sure it can be fixed, but the only thing more worthless than a gladiator title is random arenas itself, and anet knows this.

Zil

Zil

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Join Date: Oct 2007

I usually sync in RA, because the hours at which I play, TA is completely dead.

x sithis x

x sithis x

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Regulus X View Post
Crying about syncing = skilless impotent scrubs that can't stand Competition
syncing=skilless impotent scrubs that cant stand Competition

Quote:
Originally Posted by Regulus X View Post
Random = imbalanced anyhow, so what's the point of even Qqing over losing to SYNCers if you're gonna LOSE to random balanced groups regardless anyway? Just cowboy up and lose with your mending/healbreeze builds and waste your time like every other non-resigning joke player and/or failure in RA does. For future reference, children have WAAAY more time to waste than us adults, so they don't care to resign and actually feast on the rest of the anguished players that don't posess this same pool of time simply out of childish malice.
Random=Random, syncing isnt random ... the rest you are just talkin out your bum bum

Fanita

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Quote:
Originally Posted by DoomFrost View Post
Solution: Make the Gladiator title exclusive to Team Arenas.
'Nuff said.

/close thread

NeHoMaR

NeHoMaR

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Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by notskorn View Post
Same thing would probably happen if you went to GVG
How curious is the english language! I think that sentence sound better this way:

Same thing would probably happen if they went to GVG.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zil View Post
I usually sync in RA, because the hours at which I play, TA is completely dead.
Excuse me? you mean you sync with a team of less than 4 people, no? because if you are 4 people, you have no excuse to go TA (and play versus RA winners)
Quote:
Originally Posted by DoomFrost View Post
Solution: Make the Gladiator title exclusive to Team Arenas.
Doing that will kill RA, so your solution should be: Delete RA! (and I don't want that, because I am (normally) a solo player; and because HB is a metacraprunning place, the only thing I play this days is RA, mostly)

KoKoS

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Join Date: Aug 2007

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/dance *
did i sync? =D

..i'm such a coward =/

lol xD
leave the game as it is.. People will always find ways to trick the system xD

wetsparks

wetsparks

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Join Date: Nov 2006

if you dont want people to farm glad points, petition to have the max lowered. Never could understand why so many titles are maxed so damned high. Its like they want people to exploit the system so they only have to spend 1000 hours to max it instead of 1500.

obsidian ectoplasm

obsidian ectoplasm

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Join Date: Jan 2008

Hi

first of all stop with the QQ syncing is not allowed. it has been addressed to anet and they said they dont give a shit

When I sync, I sync because TA is empty at the times I play, sometimes I wait 10 minutes for 1 game.

yeah it is pretty gay when you get a decent team and you get owned by a sync.

so grow some balls plz stop QQ'ing and sync yourself.

If anet worked on this along time ago it would may of had a chance.

but if anet fixed syncing today TA would still be dead 'cept for z quest days that is loaded by terrible pve'rs.

TA used to be good, without dumbass boring metas but now all hope is lost

RIP TA

SurrealFi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

Me/A

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Instead of knowing I got like "two minutes" waiting time it could take me hours to get in if it was totally randomized.

Reverend Dr

Reverend Dr

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Join Date: Dec 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by obsidian ectoplasm View Post
so grow some balls plz stop QQ'ing and sync yourself.
Hi, I go to RA to goof off and run builds that I know are bad. It just hasn't been the same since your type that have to farm glad points came in.

You are not mourning the death of TA, you are causing the death of it. Moving from TA to RA is what makes it dead.

kane zarthrox

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2007

WA

Mo/E

IMHO Quit whining about it and deal with it. Nothing we can do is there? No. Sure you can express yourself about it... but its a worn out topic and there really is no point.

Dealz

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2007

The Forbidden Acolytes[FoAc]

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Easy way to fix this would be to remove the asian districts from RA. Then noone can sync.

Aljasha

Aljasha

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Join Date: May 2009

rehash the queue everytime the timer is reset (with another prime number) and you have got a simple but effective random team generator. of course a hash table isn't the best solution (may become huge) but definately a step in the right direction.

NeHoMaR

NeHoMaR

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Join Date: Feb 2006

This time I don't even need to write a thing, read the bold text if you are lazy for read all:
Quote:
Originally Posted by obsidian ectoplasm View Post
When I sync, I sync because TA is empty at the times I play, sometimes I wait 10 minutes for 1 game.

so grow some balls plz stop QQ'ing and sync yourself.

RIP TA
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reverend Dr View Post
You are not mourning the death of TA, you are causing the death of it. Moving from TA to RA is what makes it dead.

HuntMaster Avatar

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reverend Dr View Post
Remove glad points.

Syncing problems, leaching problems, and leaving problems all magically solved.
Will never happen. Too many people have worked too hard to get their Gladiator titles up. Removing it now would enrage too many people. Those who complain now are not even close to those who would complain and rage quit if glad points were removed.

I agree that anet should fix the problem, but that is no solution.

Ghost Dog

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Join Date: Mar 2008

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I'm laughing so hard at the syncers in this thread defending their actions, just admit that you're terrible to the point you don't stand a chance in even RA.

HuntMaster Avatar

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghost Dog View Post
I'm laughing so hard at the syncers in this thread defending their actions, just admit that you're terrible to the point you don't stand a chance in even RA.
If all the syncer's were so horrible, then I don't think anyone would be complaining. The point is, those "terrible" syncer's are winning. Henche the OP's reason for posting.

Reverend Dr

Reverend Dr

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Quote:
Originally Posted by HuntMaster Avatar View Post
Will never happen. Too many people have worked too hard to get their Gladiator titles up. Removing it now would enrage too many people. Those who complain now are not even close to those who would complain and rage quit if glad points were removed.
TA would still have glad points, people could still get glad points. They just couldn't sync their way through RA to get them.

While it would mean certain people could no longer get glad points, it would not remove the possibility of getting glad points.

Tearz1993

Tearz1993

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Too little too late imo.

NeHoMaR

NeHoMaR

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Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by HuntMaster Avatar View Post
If all the syncer's were so horrible, then I don't think anyone would be complaining. The point is, those "terrible" syncer's are winning. Henche the OP's reason for posting.
That's a matter of balance, doesn't matter if someone is the best player of the world if fighting with some random team, versus an organized, complemented builds, TS/Vent, even being average (or even bad) players. That's exactly the reason of why even good RA teams leave at 10 wins.

Is something similar (even worst) to making a randomway in HA; You will have little chances to win.
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Originally Posted by Tearz1993 View Post
Too little too late imo.
If you are bored of this game, or leaved it already, that doesn't means everybody feel/think the same.

Regulus X

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I find it thrilling to fight against syncers (esp. when my team is balanced in random) because I savor good, competitive fights against tough contenders; that's what gaming's all about [fun], isn't it?. Alot of the players that Qq about syncers are just bad and/or unskilled at the game, so they come to these forums to cry about how they're having a hard time winning with mending, heal breeze, orison, firestorm and all the other skills from the "inferior" category.

Here are some tips to winning in RA vs syncers. Frontliners bring high damage, interrupts, knockdowns (especially more than one + stonefists), deep wound, increased attack/movement speed, etc.. and for casters bring damage, snares, slowdown of attack/movement, knockdown, blind, anti-melee stances such as the tactics line, distortion, etc..

If you adhere to the above tips, your chances of winning soar way high. Remember though, it's timing and execution is KEY, not just mindless spamming!

So please.. no moar Qqing..?

obsidian ectoplasm

obsidian ectoplasm

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Join Date: Jan 2008

I am syncing go sync yourself because lets be honest this problem will never be fixed so there is no point trying to stop it

I am not saying I think sync is a good thing syncing in RANDOM arenas is obviously stupid

but stopping sync will not make TA active

and when I say I sync because TA is dead, not just because of syncing but all of GW is dead at the time I play

bhavv

bhavv

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Join Date: Sep 2006

I like to sync in RA so I dont get rubbish players on my group.

I only do it very rarely if anyone else asks, sometimes I get a good random group with an easy 10-15 wins, then once we end up in TA, I ask if they want to sync RA.

The funny thing is that the crybabies already ruined RA by getting dishonour and /report added into the game. Of course when someone keeps on getting random fail group after random fail group, they feel like quitting and syncing. Unless of course you are that annoying mending wammo or firestorm monk, and the person who then runs off QQing about quitters and syncers.

Then the bad player resorts to insulting better players by calling them wiki noobs or something bad for syncing. Maybe if you didnt suck so much yourself, then you would actually win? Maybe the reason why you lose a game is you, didnt you ever think about that? I myself am not bothered if I win or lose, but if you are then all you have to do is improve your skillbar, learn to play and maybe play a monk.

Regulus X

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Join Date: Oct 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by bhavv View Post
I like to sync in RA so I dont get rubbish players on my group.

I only do it very rarely if anyone else asks, sometimes I get a good random group with an easy 10-15 wins, then once we end up in TA, I ask if they want to sync RA.

The funny thing is that the crybabies already ruined RA by getting dishonour and /report added into the game. Of course when someone keeps on getting random fail group after random fail group, they feel like quitting and syncing. Unless of course you are that annoying mending wammo or firestorm monk, and the person who then runs off QQing about quitters and syncers.

Then the bad player resorts to insulting better players by calling them wiki noobs or something bad for syncing. Maybe if you didnt suck so much yourself, then you would actually win? Maybe the reason why you lose a game is you, didnt you ever think about that? I myself am not bothered if I win or lose, but if you are then all you have to do is improve your skillbar, learn to play and maybe play a monk.
I sense great truth in You! Yeees! Mmmmm! Dead RA is. Qq many children will. Qq leads to Anet, Anet leads to nerf and nerf leads to Game Death. Yeees! Mmmmm!

Zynkh

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Stop QQ'in.

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