Kiting

Chetjan

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2008

I know that it is better for a caster to kite and cast, rather than running and casting but why? Is there an increased chance of crit on the back of a character? What is the difference between being hit in the front and the back?
Thanks in advance.

ps. I searched the forums and could not find a related thread so if it has already been posted I apologize.

Kamara

Kamara

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Ponie Hill, Lion's Arch International

Blinkie Kaulitz Armie

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If you hit a moving / kiting foe in the back, it will *always* result in a critical hit.

Wiki page has a little more info http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Critical_hit

Undead King Knight

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2009

Imperious Vengance [IV]

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So why kit if they will critical hit you?

Hollygen

Hollygen

Core Guru

Join Date: Feb 2007

UK

Blinkie Ponie Armie [bpa]

R/

If you kite (sidestepping and backstepping), you're likely facing forward.
If you run you're facing away.

Show your back to the foes, and get critical hits when they hit.
Move whilst facing the foes, and whilst you move a bit slower, you don't get crit hits anywhere near as often

Icy The Mage

Icy The Mage

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Canada

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Run in a diagonal zig-zag and it's the same as walking backwards, but faster.

refer

refer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2009

US

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kamara View Post
If you hit a moving / kiting foe in the back, it will *always* result in a critical hit.
that has got to be lamest thing I have ever heard. what, do all guild wars characters have some back problem? but thanks for saying it.

subarucar

subarucar

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

New Zealand

None

Quote:
Originally Posted by refer View Post
that has got to be lamest thing I have ever heard. what, do all guild wars characters have some back problem? but thanks for saying it.
If you attack someones back, they cannot see you and make an attempt to dodge. You also dont have anything you can parry with, even if it is only a wand.

Picuso

Picuso

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

far far away

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kamara View Post
If you hit a moving / kiting foe in the back, it will *always* result in a critical hit.
But only with melee weapons, IIRC. Spears, Bows, staves and wands don't have a 100% crit hitting a kiting foe.

Hollygen

Hollygen

Core Guru

Join Date: Feb 2007

UK

Blinkie Ponie Armie [bpa]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Picuso View Post
But only with melee weapons, IIRC. Spears, Bows, staves and wands don't have a 100% crit hitting a kiting foe.
Are you sure on that, cause that's not what the Wiki says (not that the wiki is always right, but still). You can still cause a critical hit with a non-melee weapon normally, or else we wouldn't see so many A/R bow assassins. There's no reason the rule of always critical to the back would not extend to other weapons as well

refer

refer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2009

US

Quote:
Originally Posted by subarucar View Post
If you attack someones back, they cannot see you and make an attempt to dodge. You also dont have anything you can parry with, even if it is only a wand.
That may be true but I thought critical hit was critical hit, not "back hit" lol. I agree it should be more, but not every time. That is extreme.

Faure

Faure

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

Mystic Spiral [MYST]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hollygen View Post
Are you sure on that, cause that's not what the Wiki says (not that the wiki is always right, but still). You can still cause a critical hit with a non-melee weapon normally, or else we wouldn't see so many A/R bow assassins. There's no reason the rule of always critical to the back would not extend to other weapons as well
A/R has the bonus of sins having a higher base chance of getting crits + the enchants that make you even more likely to crit. A/R has nothing to do with the hitting in the back type of crits.

Hollygen

Hollygen

Core Guru

Join Date: Feb 2007

UK

Blinkie Ponie Armie [bpa]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Faure View Post
A/R has the bonus of sins having a higher base chance of getting crits + the enchants that make you even more likely to crit. A/R has nothing to do with the hitting in the back type of crits.
I wasn't saying that, I was just indicating that critical hits are not limitted to melee weapons, and then expanding on that to query why would non-melee weapons be limitted to one form of generating guaranteed critical hits, when it's clear thay can make them normally

Picuso

Picuso

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

far far away

W/

idk, but only melee weapons are able to 100% crit hitting a kiting foe >_<

EDIT: Just tested with a spear:
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/816/gw042.jpg

"Back-hit" a kitting foe. No crit. You can test it by yourself if you want to