Low frames on guild wars

flarepaladin

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Join Date: Jul 2009

I just got guild wars and my system is over the minimum requirements and recommended. I have been getting 1-5 frames on it with low graphics and high. I need help with this problem, and also on other games (which require more hardware) run fine but guild wars has problems. I'm on windows xp by the way. thanks

Elder III

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If you post your system specifications we might be able to help you out - but with the current information given there isn't much in in the way of helpful input that anyone else can offer.

With that said, if your system is truly over the minimum requirements let alone reccomended I would expect that you have either a driver issue or you are running it on integrated graphics and not dedicated, but without more info, that's just a guess.

Wrath Of Dragons

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start - run - dxdiag
We need to know your ram, video card and processor as well. it should all show up there.

flarepaladin

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Join Date: Jul 2009

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Originally Posted by Elder III View Post
If you post your system specifications we might be able to help you out - but with the current information given there isn't much in in the way of helpful input that anyone else can offer.

With that said, if your system is truly over the minimum requirements let alone reccomended I would expect that you have either a driver issue or you are running it on integrated graphics and not dedicated, but without more info, that's just a guess.
Manufacturer : Dell Optiplex GX520
Mainboard : Dell 0X7841
Chipset : Intel i945G/GZ
Processor : Intel Pentium 4 630 @ 3000 MHz
Physical Memory : 1024 MB (2 x 512 DDR2-SDRAM )
Video Card : NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GT
Hard Disk : Maxtor (80 GB)
DVD-Rom Drive : TSSTcorp CDRWDVD TS-H492C
Monitor Type : X223W - 22 inches
Network Card : Broadcom Corp BCM5750A1 NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet
Operating System : Microsoft Windows XP Professional 5.01.2600 Service Pack 3
DirectX : Version 9.0c (May 2008)
(according to pc wizard 2008)

I upgraded the card, original was an intel card but I disabled it completely.

Elder III

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try to defrag the gw.dat file - auslogic disk defrag has a decent free program that will let you defrag individual files if you don't have something else.

flarepaladin

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Join Date: Jul 2009

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Originally Posted by Elder III View Post
try to defrag the gw.dat file - auslogic disk defrag has a decent free program that will let you defrag individual files if you don't have something else.
where is this file located? also, could I have a link to this defragger?

moriz

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i'm thinking the graphic card driver is the culprit here. have you installed the latest from nvidia?

Mr Fizzle

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Not to jack the thread or anything, but I am also having some issues with FPS. If you could help me as well that would be nice.

Mainboard : PEGATRON CORPORATION. EVE
Chipset : Intel GM965
Processor : Intel Core 2 Duo Mobile T5850 @ 2166 MHz
Physical Memory : 4096 MB (2 x 2048 DDR2-SDRAM )
Video Card : Mobile Intel(R) 965 Express Chipset Family
Hard Disk : ST3500620AS (500 GB)
DVD-Rom Drive : TSSTcorp CDDVDW TS-T633A
Monitor Type : 142 inches
Network Card : Realtek Semiconductor RTL8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC
Network Card : Ralink Technology Corp Ralink Technology Corp
Operating System : Windows (TM) Vista Home Premium Home Edition 6.00.6001 Service Pack 1
DirectX : Version 10.00
Windows Performance Index : 3.4

flarepaladin

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Join Date: Jul 2009

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Originally Posted by moriz View Post
i'm thinking the graphic card driver is the culprit here. have you installed the latest from nvidia?
its updated. Runs great on my other games, its just guild wars

flarepaladin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2009

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Originally Posted by Elder III View Post
try to defrag the gw.dat file - auslogic disk defrag has a decent free program that will let you defrag individual files if you don't have something else.
sorry for the double post, but i defragged the file and I still have a problem

Bob Slydell

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Join Date: Jan 2007

Are you playing with a video in the backround? Playing in Windowed Mode non full screen? Have a fade effect on your taskbar or that sort of thing on a window title bar?

As for 2nd guy:
Quote:
Not to jack the thread or anything, but I am also having some issues with FPS. If you could help me as well that would be nice.

Mainboard : PEGATRON CORPORATION. EVE
Chipset : Intel GM965
Processor : Intel Core 2 Duo Mobile T5850 @ 2166 MHz
Physical Memory : 4096 MB (2 x 2048 DDR2-SDRAM )
Video Card : Mobile Intel(R) 965 Express Chipset Family
Hard Disk : ST3500620AS (500 GB)
DVD-Rom Drive : TSSTcorp CDDVDW TS-T633A
Monitor Type : 142 inches
Network Card : Realtek Semiconductor RTL8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC
Network Card : Ralink Technology Corp Ralink Technology Corp
Operating System : Windows (TM) Vista Home Premium Home Edition 6.00.6001 Service Pack 1
DirectX : Version 10.00
Windows Performance Index : 3.4
The graphics card is probably the main culprit. GMA Chipsets never did run guildwars very good. There are some people that do have it and run it great/decent, but if you have a problem with graphics and you are using one of those cards... its the card.

OutlawFMA

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Adding more RAM never killed anyone.

Bob Slydell

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Adding more RAM never killed anyone.
1 GB should be plenty to run guildwars fine, but you never know with all the different systems out there. At least he has 1 GB and using Windows XP.

Mr Fizzle

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Originally Posted by Chrisworld View Post
Are you playing with a video in the backround? Playing in Windowed Mode non full screen? Have a fade effect on your taskbar or that sort of thing on a window title bar?

As for 2nd guy:


The graphics card is probably the main culprit. GMA Chipsets never did run guildwars very good. There are some people that do have it and run it great/decent, but if you have a problem with graphics and you are using one of those cards... its the card.
Anything I can do about it for free?

flarepaladin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2009

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Originally Posted by OutlawFMA View Post
Adding more RAM never killed anyone.
Why should I add more RAM when guild wars requires 512 mb minumum and also my newer games (meaning they are newer than guild wars) run fine.

Yes, my card is working because I can play Team Fortress 2 and Fallout 3 as well. (they require a VERY good card)

@All
Thanks for the help even though it didn't really help at all.

Elder III

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flarePaladin - try to use the "-repair" command and if that doesn't work try the "-image" command.

MrFizzle - there is a thread stickied in the Hardware Forum that will help you tweak your Intel graphics card so that it performs better with Guild Wars - Moriz is the thread author btw.

flarepaladin

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Join Date: Jul 2009

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Originally Posted by Elder III View Post
flarePaladin - try to use the "-repair" command and if that doesn't work try the "-image" command.

MrFizzle - there is a thread stickied in the Hardware Forum that will help you tweak your Intel graphics card so that it performs better with Guild Wars - Moriz is the thread author btw.
where would I enter these commands?

Pinkest One

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Right click your guild wars desktop icon and go down to properties, add them to the rear of the "target".

Then run Guild wars as you normally would.

flarepaladin

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Join Date: Jul 2009

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Originally Posted by Pinkest One View Post
Right click your guild wars desktop icon and go down to properties, add them to the rear of the "target".

Then run Guild wars as you normally would.
tried both, didn't work.

Not a hardware problem, it works fine on my other games (which require more graphics)

Everything is fine on my end. It is guild wars' problem.

Elder III

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the "-repair" and "-image" command are meant to fix it on the GW end.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Command_line

if you do the "-image" on a avg DSL it will take 6 or more hours to finish the download.... both commands are designed to fix or replace a corrupted gw.dat file - obviously you want to try "-repair" first.

flarepaladin

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Join Date: Jul 2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elder III View Post
the "-repair" and "-image" command are meant to fix it on the GW end.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Command_line

if you do the "-image" on a avg DSL it will take 6 or more hours to finish the download.... both commands are designed to fix or replace a corrupted gw.dat file - obviously you want to try "-repair" first.
both commands make no difference for me.

rick1027

rick1027

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Join Date: Apr 2006

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Originally Posted by Mr Fizzle View Post
Anything I can do about it for free?
fizzle try looking in this thread there are tips in there that might help you

flare try turning down your setting in guild wars try turning vertical sync post processing effects turn your visual quality down a bit and use a lower resolution to run guild wars and see if that makes a difference

flarepaladin

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Join Date: Jul 2009

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fizzle try looking in this thread there are tips in there that might help you

flare try turning down your setting in guild wars try turning vertical sync post processing effects turn your visual quality down a bit and use a lower resolution to run guild wars and see if that makes a difference
that isn't the problem, All my specifications are greater than minimum. My graphics card can handle all the high quality settings. I tested low settings and a lower resolutions, doesn't work.

Well, I'll see guild wars later because it isn't my hardware's problem.

rick1027

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Originally Posted by flarepaladin View Post
that isn't the problem, All my specifications are greater than minimum. My graphics card can handle all the high quality settings. I tested low settings and a lower resolutions, doesn't work.

Well, I'll see guild wars later because it isn't my hardware's problem.
well then if you dont want to try anything play with the lower fps you dont have to get snippy we are only trying to help but if you dont want it why make a post in the first place. i saw the specs on your card im wondering if its the same problem the 6 series has or not thats why i wanted you to try those things out and report back but since you dont want to do that try your maunfufacturer instead

moriz

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do you have a backup card, or integrated graphics? if so, you can take out your current graphic card and see if the frame rates go up or not. if it does, then your card IS defective. GW is known to be really sensitive to hardware problems, and will often throw errors long before other games begin failing.

Elder III

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I'll second what Moriz said - GW is far more sensitive to some problems that most games are... it often will act very weird when there is a problem... long before any other games do so in fact. :S

Mr Fizzle

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Originally Posted by Elder III View Post
flarePaladin - try to use the "-repair" command and if that doesn't work try the "-image" command.

MrFizzle - there is a thread stickied in the Hardware Forum that will help you tweak your Intel graphics card so that it performs better with Guild Wars - Moriz is the thread author btw.
Thanks alot, it made it run a bit better. At least I can sort of gvg without playing like complete shit.

nacho3232

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2009

for what it's worth download game-booster it's free and will automatically turn off all unnecessary stuff running in the background
http://www.iobit.com/gamebooster.html
another tip on XP hit start then run type msconfig look at how many things you have running. You can choose selective start up like I do and close a lot of stuff off you don't need.

azntosh

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2009

help me please i get around 5-9 FPS in and outside of town. My specs are:
Machine name: Q-ZHNNWE0AAD2KI
Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.090206-1234)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: HP Pavilion 04
System Model: D7217G-ABA 0552
BIOS: Award Medallion BIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2000+, MMX, 3DNow, ~1.7GHz
Memory: 1280MB RAM
Page File: 375MB used, 1143MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.5512 32bit Unicode

Help would be appriciated

rick1027

rick1027

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Quote:
Originally Posted by azntosh View Post
help me please i get around 5-9 FPS in and outside of town. My specs are:
Machine name: Q-ZHNNWE0AAD2KI
Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.090206-1234)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: HP Pavilion 04
System Model: D7217G-ABA 0552
BIOS: Award Medallion BIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2000+, MMX, 3DNow, ~1.7GHz
Memory: 1280MB RAM
Page File: 375MB used, 1143MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.5512 32bit Unicode

Help would be appriciated
azntosh what setting are you trying to run guild wars in i see i might be mistaken your trying to run it with a 32mb graphics card which i think is under the recommended specs for guild wars i think you might put your setting on the lowest you can and turn off post porocess effects and unclick wait for vertical sync.