The Nice Hacker

At times like this when it's all doom and gloom, especially on these forums, I thought it would be nice to share this story that my brother and I experienced recently.

My brother, after quite a lengthy break, decided he felt like playing GW again but when attempting to log in to his account, he was faced by the error that his password was incorrect. We contacted support and after quite a lengthy series of emailing and receiving we eventually managed to get it right. We changed the password and after attempting to login with this new password, another error message popped up. "This account has been blocked due to account issues, code=045".

We straight away contacted support once more and the very next day he could access his account. When he logged in, though, we discovered that someone had created a new character in his account... a permasin. What makes this story even better is that all of the ectos and all of the money this hacker had farmed were now my brothers. Thanks to the hacker, my brother is quite a lot richer He was even kind enough to leave all of my brother's characters intact and didn't delete anything.

We've learnt from this experience but my brother was also lucky enough to have the nice/stupid hacker choose him

So for how much money/gold did your brother sell his account when he quit?

Hackers don't play on hacked accounts, they steal the good stuff and move on looking for the next victim.

lol typical... but that's the thing, he didn't. At first I thought he was kidding but he wasn't. We both agree that GW is one of our favorite games of all time but we both took a break as it was getting quite stale. We both chose to return but as I have mentioned, he couldn't access his. So someone somehow managed to create a permasin and used his account to farm but strangely didn't touch his other characters.... sounds unbelievable but it's true

You seriously ask to get misstrusted and flamed with this kind of post Op.

Sounds more like your brother gave away/sold his account and now used cheap trix to get it back. But, if it truly was hacked, it does seem a bit weird that the hacker chose to keep the account. Most hackers arent that dumb. :-)

Gz to the ectos, have fun in-game.

Well I thought I'd share this story as I found it quite unbelievable myself (I'm not a naive person) and it's your choice if you believe it or not...

While I suppose I would be happy if I found a bunch of ectos and gold on my account, doesn't it make you feel.... dirty?

Lol Nice Story... If Only All Hackers Were That Nice / Stupid !
How Much Did Your Brother Make In The End From The 'Hack'

Markus.

Not entirely true, I got hacked a while ago and lost ~1.1mil in gold and about 150 zkeys. However the Hacker didn't change my password, didn't delete any of my characters, didn't steal any of my items and actually left a few items in my storage that hadn't previously been there as well as changing the skill bar on my Assassin, implying that he played on that character.

Now I have no money though

hawt story.

Well... a keylogger program could have captured his email and password. But I will say this with a lot of confidence: Your brother did something to allow this to happen. He either 1) gave away/sold his account, 2) left his account info where someone else could find it, 3) told someone his account info, 4) installed a 3rd-party program that contained a keylogger, or 5) your brother is lying.

Hackers don't magically and randomly capture accounts. You have to give them access to the keys to your car for them to steal it.

That metaphor doesn't really work, considering hot-wiring and all.

Oh and OP, cool story,

He took the good stuff, which in your case was around 2 million in gold and z-keys. Fast and easy, he didn't need your items. They seem to put some random crap instead to make it look like a normal trade when they transfer the gold to avoid being noticed by Anet. The changing of the skillbar is prolly to create the illusion it was the rightful owner using the account at the time.

Exactly the same happened to me over a year ago.
Still have the sin on my acc.

Oh stop being so sceptical. I for one believe the OP and wish this would happen to my account! I need the break and the money!

A lot of RMTers steal accounts to play on them. Hacker is not a profession, it's a set of skills and tools.

Very nice story, it's the first time I read it happen this way around .

You do know how many idiots there are on the internet, right? Back when I was like 10, my Runescape account was hacked. I was a level 80 something with about 2 mil. I stopped playing, without contacting support. A year later? I looked up my account, noticed I was level 110 or so. Contacted support, got my account back. Not only were all of my levels boosted drastically, I had a nice ~50 mil with a dragon chain.

Moral of the story? Don't assume everyone on the internet is smart enough to not play on a hacked account.

Cool story bro. Wonder how many ecto/gold the hacker left on there. Makes me wish someone would come along and hax my account <.<.

I Think That So Many Caps Shouldn't Be Allowed To Use. It's Also Very Annoying To Read Like This So Don't Type Like This.
Thanks.
Now back to topic. Whoa! Lol that's pretty cool man. Enjoy the ectos!

It could have been a hacker selling the account to someone else who didn't know it was hacked (I know, sad, stupid and naive)

I'm suprised you're the only one who got this. Thats exactly what happens. The hacker plays another game and finds guildwar players who play the same game as him. But the hacker wants guildwar fans who hate the other game they play/used to play. So they make a deal to trade account for account.

Happens all the time. I know people who have trade diablo accounts, warcraft (win) accounts and other game accounts for guildwar accounts or items. I'm sure someone somewhere got something that was hacked.

This is why I would never trade for a account. Because I don't know if the person trading me stole it and I do not promote hacking/stealing.

Oh and because its against the ToS. *cough*

Absolutely not, but as a system and network admin, I know enough to know that accounts don't miraculously get hacked. Anet can monitor suspicious transactions, that's why I think 'hackers' want to make it look like normal trade actions when they transfer the gold and put some items in the trade box.

@ Frill: An IT security specialist uses a set of skills and tools as well, but he gets officialy paid for it while a hacker does not.

@ Arkantos: yes, it's mostly the user's fault. So whatever happened, his brother did something that wasn't 'smart', as well as the second 'user' of the account.

@ Bristlebane: that's possible yes.

So whatever you guys may say, if the account indeed got hacked it is most likely a mistake on his brother's end. My first post was more like a teasing remark, that's why I added the big grin smiley.

What the puppeteer says a few posts below is possible too.

Hacker.. None of them are good.. There are just stupid and clumsy ones. You got the combination of both be LUCKY .

Hey now, I consider myself a bit of a hacker. The problem is the term is misused because of misunderstanding and hollywood. Nothing wrong with a good hacker.

Now crackers and script kiddies....

This...

My bet is OP's brother gave the account to a friend & forgot

....Because all hackers are member of a organziation with strict rules and codes.
And an IQ test!

You think if they set that up to happen to their account they'd tell us about it?

That'd be pretty stupid so the OP is either ridicilously stupid or the hacker was. And the OP doesn't speak in a stupid way, so I'm taking the high road on this one and saying "lol k"

Omg, my account got hacked today, my friend gave me that account, and all I did to it was make a perma-sin and farm ectos! Support are being the usual losers and not giving me my account back. Hackers are faggots!


(SOMEONE had to say it )

Was waiting for that lol.

But congrats on the free stuff, can never complain about that lol.

PM Your acc details and ill get to work right away

Finally a little justice for us who play by the rules Now if we could just some how find away to eliminate all the players who flood the economy by purchasing gold online from Chinese slavers...

No, they didn't.

@the Op. I could see this happen - people are naturally stupid.

I don't think the person who has been leveling your brother's account is a hacker, he might have bought that account from a hacker.

Hacker and Computer negeniiere and software developer are different things.

no things as a "GOOD" hacker... look up the meaning of the word "good"....
as in Good and Evil

There are "SKILLFULL" Hackers. but no HACKER is a good 1.. Hacker implies going into areas were they shouldnt be.. thus being Bad evile or simply put a.. Criminal

So your a criminal right?

unless ya want to rephrase yourself and say i am a Skillfull Computer Engenier -_-

The only difference is "official". Hackers get paid by the job, a lot more than if they were IT engineers doing similar pentest activities, because their "employers" are much richer.

Never heard of "white hat hacker"?

That would be make sense is there was such a thing as evil/good.

Moral nihilism?

Look, every culture has definitions of "evil" and "good."

Sure, we can debate what is "evil" and what is "good", but a debate doesn't mean the concept doesn't exist.

-_- i was simply saying there are skillfull hackers that are good at what they do...good implies a person that is not evil

You sayung there is no such thing as good or evil?.......

Skilfull hacker=/="Good" hacker because hackers arent good they are rotten bad....b =)

Trying to find a falw in wording is a resort that is used by people who have no decent counter-argument or Trolls

P/S this is fun

You would be shocked at how the security industry works.

As I said before, learn what a "white hat hacker" is.

And then meet one.

They are also called Computer engeniers -_- and Software testers -_- what else i knew while in my C class -_-.......

from a dictionary

Hacker -a programmer who breaks into computer systems in order to steal or change or destroy information as a form of cyber-terrorism

From Wiki


Computer Engineering (also called Electronic and Computer Engineering or Computer Systems Engineering) is a discipline that combines both Electrical Engineering and Computer Science.[1] Computer engineers usually have training in electrical engineering, software design and hardware-software integration instead of only software engineering or electrical engineering. Computer engineers are involved in many aspects of computing, from the design of individual microprocessors, personal computers, and supercomputers, to circuit design. This field of engineering not only focuses on how computer systems themselves work, but also how they integrate into the larger picture.[2]

And this is as well

Software Testing is an empirical investigation conducted to provide stakeholders with information about the quality of the product or service under test[1], with respect to the context in which it is intended to operate. Software Testing also provides an objective, independent view of the software to allow the business to appreciate and understand the risks at implementation of the software. Test techniques include, but are not limited to, the process of executing a program or application with the intent of finding software bugs. Software Testing can also be stated as the process of validating and verifying that a software program/application/product (1) meets the business and technical requirements that guided its design and development; (2) works as expected; and (3) can be implemented with the same characteristics.



Happy? i did both of the things you asked. an extra -_-

You are taking information from wiki and dictionary?
Geesh,and if you do,at least read the whole article,not just the part you like.
-_-

Quotes-

Hacker attitudes

Several subgroups of the computer underground with different attitudes and aims use different terms to demarcate themselves from each other, or try to exclude some specific group with which they do not agree. Eric S. Raymond advocates that members of the computer underground should be called crackers. Yet, those people see themselves as hackers and even try to include the views of Raymond in what they see as one wider hacker culture, a view harshly rejected by Raymond himself. Instead of a hacker – cracker dichotomy, they give more emphasis to a spectrum of different categories, such as white hat (ethical hacking), grey hat, black hat and script kiddie. In contrast to Raymond, they usually reserve the term cracker to refer to black hat hackers, or more generally hackers with unlawful intentions.


White hat = Hacker
Main article: White hat

A white hat hacker breaks security for non-malicious reasons, for instance testing their own security system. This type of hacker enjoys learning and working with computer systems, and consequently gains a deeper understanding of the subject. Such people normally go on to use their hacking skills in legitimate ways, such as becoming security consultants. The word 'hacker' was originally used to describe people such as these.


Grey hat
Main article: Grey hat

A grey hat hacker is a hacker of ambiguous ethics and/or borderline legality, often frankly admitted.


Black hat = Cracker
Main article: Black hat

A black hat hacker is someone who subverts computer security without authorization or uses technology (usually a computer or the Internet) for vandalism (malicious destruction), credit card fraud, identity theft, intellectual property theft, or other types of crime.


Script kiddie
Main article: Script kiddie

A script kiddie is a non-expert who breaks into computer systems by using pre-packaged automated tools written by others. These are the outcasts of the hacker community. Also referred to as a Skiddiot.

Hacktivist
Main article: Hacktivism

A hacktivist is a hacker who utilizes technology to announce a social, ideological, religious, or political message. In general, most hactivism involves website defacement or denial-of-service attacks. In more extreme cases, hactivism is used as tool for Cyberterrorism.