Wanting to switch main to my warrior
Lishy
But there's just one problem:
The investment put into my paragon.
I currently have 4 max titles: Slayer of All, Guardian of Cantha, Protector of Elona, Protector of Cantha.
And titles that're ALMOST maxed: Revered Lightbringer and Spearmarshel
I'm a very picky completionist, so I really NEED the titles in which my paragon has. Normally this wouldn't be a problem to grind back to the high ranks.
After all, Sunspear is very, very easy to get by vanquishing. And Lightbringer is basically a free title with all the free gloom runs these days.
The protector titles actually aren't that hard to get back, and I might even find some fun in trying to get masters on everything again.
However, the utmost problem:
Slayer of all
I'm a norn manhoe. I LOVE the norn skills. But I am only rank 6 on my warrior and I don't have the max title in which it counts for. There for, making GWAMM a whole lot harder to get on my Warrior since I HAAAAAATE grinding.
So I reach my point, if you can call it that:
Would it be worth grinding my titles back up if I'm the most impatient person ever in order to use a Warrior over a paragon?
After all, a warrior seems totally superior. In fact, a warrior seems as if it can completely replace the paragon for Stunning Strike SY based builds.
A warrior can also efficiently use Axes, Swords, Hammers, Daggers, Spears, and Scythes, while a paragon can only use Spears, Scythes, and hammers.
Using a warrior seems to vary gameplay a lot more and gives me more armor choices to strive after. The choices of builds of Earth Shaker, Dragon Slash SY spam, Hundred Blades, Triple Chop, Defy Pain, Strength Scythe, Stunning Strike Spam, and Death Blossom is really a lot more appealing than the 4 different builds my paragon has offered me.
If it truly is worth grinding everything back in order to enjoy the joys of a warrior primary, is there any speed grinding tips to regain these titles as soon as possible?
The investment put into my paragon.
I currently have 4 max titles: Slayer of All, Guardian of Cantha, Protector of Elona, Protector of Cantha.
And titles that're ALMOST maxed: Revered Lightbringer and Spearmarshel
I'm a very picky completionist, so I really NEED the titles in which my paragon has. Normally this wouldn't be a problem to grind back to the high ranks.
After all, Sunspear is very, very easy to get by vanquishing. And Lightbringer is basically a free title with all the free gloom runs these days.
The protector titles actually aren't that hard to get back, and I might even find some fun in trying to get masters on everything again.
However, the utmost problem:
Slayer of all
I'm a norn manhoe. I LOVE the norn skills. But I am only rank 6 on my warrior and I don't have the max title in which it counts for. There for, making GWAMM a whole lot harder to get on my Warrior since I HAAAAAATE grinding.
So I reach my point, if you can call it that:
Would it be worth grinding my titles back up if I'm the most impatient person ever in order to use a Warrior over a paragon?
After all, a warrior seems totally superior. In fact, a warrior seems as if it can completely replace the paragon for Stunning Strike SY based builds.
A warrior can also efficiently use Axes, Swords, Hammers, Daggers, Spears, and Scythes, while a paragon can only use Spears, Scythes, and hammers.
Using a warrior seems to vary gameplay a lot more and gives me more armor choices to strive after. The choices of builds of Earth Shaker, Dragon Slash SY spam, Hundred Blades, Triple Chop, Defy Pain, Strength Scythe, Stunning Strike Spam, and Death Blossom is really a lot more appealing than the 4 different builds my paragon has offered me.
If it truly is worth grinding everything back in order to enjoy the joys of a warrior primary, is there any speed grinding tips to regain these titles as soon as possible?
fenix
I'd join a VERY active VERY large alliance, one that does lots of HM. That'll cut the grind down a heap. Also, when you play through the game, Vanq and Explore every zone you come across.
As for Norn title, run this;
http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:Team_-_HNPF
UNBELIEVEABLY easy to get Norn points. Fast too.
As for Norn title, run this;
http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:Team_-_HNPF
UNBELIEVEABLY easy to get Norn points. Fast too.
Windf0rce
I wouldn't be discouraged to restart.
All of the titles you listed are between the relatively easy to get.
Protectors/Guardians are all easy, just take a bit of time but the missions can be fun to do. Now with Zaishen quests, wait for the quests to do the corresponding missions for a nice synergy - titles, extra money, reputation, etc. I have a Blood Washes Blood quest in my log that gives over 1,000 Norn points alone.
Spearmarshal and LB, easy to get also with Zaishen Quests (mission / bounties) or vanquishing. Or wait for a double weekend and Wurm farm, it's fast and not that boring.
Slayer of All shouldn't be a problem Vanquishing. Wait for a Double Rep weekend, been a while we don't have one (not that I remember), it could be soon.
All of the titles you listed are between the relatively easy to get.
Protectors/Guardians are all easy, just take a bit of time but the missions can be fun to do. Now with Zaishen quests, wait for the quests to do the corresponding missions for a nice synergy - titles, extra money, reputation, etc. I have a Blood Washes Blood quest in my log that gives over 1,000 Norn points alone.
Spearmarshal and LB, easy to get also with Zaishen Quests (mission / bounties) or vanquishing. Or wait for a double weekend and Wurm farm, it's fast and not that boring.
Slayer of All shouldn't be a problem Vanquishing. Wait for a Double Rep weekend, been a while we don't have one (not that I remember), it could be soon.
Shayne Hawke
In deciding to move focus from one well-progressed character to one you feel you may enjoy more, what you should be considering is which would be more enjoyable: finishing out any length of completion you want on a character of sub-par desire, or doing everything already done over again and more with a character that you find yourself more comfortable with.
The maxed and almost-maxed titles you claim to have on your Paragon seems hardly an "investment" when we're talking about doing about thirty titles with one character. If you think that playing Warrior will be better, now is a fine time to be making a switch.
As for time-saving tips for doing the titles, use the wikis/threads that have already discussed them, and find a guild/alliance that shares your interests/goals.
The maxed and almost-maxed titles you claim to have on your Paragon seems hardly an "investment" when we're talking about doing about thirty titles with one character. If you think that playing Warrior will be better, now is a fine time to be making a switch.
As for time-saving tips for doing the titles, use the wikis/threads that have already discussed them, and find a guild/alliance that shares your interests/goals.
pumpkin pie
Have one profession each. Everyone should
note: you may not get all the titles you wanted, but its a lot of fun. I recently acquired Koabd 1 on my second character the ele. Damn you eternal grove!
I play mesmer and monk now when the connection is good, they are my survivor, monk is legendary, but i want to keep her alive forever, mesmer is a challenge, started from prophecies, as if I've only just started playing for the first time. Now that all my gold are gone, I can't afford to buy her anything, making the process even more interesting, and bringing back good memories, and thinking what a noob I was to die so many times when its so much more easier if I had just taken the time to read and understand the quests/task require of me, putting the right skill on the bar helps the most. She's in the salt flats now, I fear she might get kill during Ascension.
I switch to pugging zmission on other older characters, capping some skills during the appropriate weekends, watch Alliance chat for when someone is doing any mission that I can't do alone in HM. Its going to take an awful lot of time, but I'll get there eventually. All my characters KOADB 6.
Don't think I can achieve it before GW2 lolololol.... luckily this is a no monthly fees model.
note: you may not get all the titles you wanted, but its a lot of fun. I recently acquired Koabd 1 on my second character the ele. Damn you eternal grove!
I play mesmer and monk now when the connection is good, they are my survivor, monk is legendary, but i want to keep her alive forever, mesmer is a challenge, started from prophecies, as if I've only just started playing for the first time. Now that all my gold are gone, I can't afford to buy her anything, making the process even more interesting, and bringing back good memories, and thinking what a noob I was to die so many times when its so much more easier if I had just taken the time to read and understand the quests/task require of me, putting the right skill on the bar helps the most. She's in the salt flats now, I fear she might get kill during Ascension.
I switch to pugging zmission on other older characters, capping some skills during the appropriate weekends, watch Alliance chat for when someone is doing any mission that I can't do alone in HM. Its going to take an awful lot of time, but I'll get there eventually. All my characters KOADB 6.
Don't think I can achieve it before GW2 lolololol.... luckily this is a no monthly fees model.
shoyon456
If GW2 is the whole point of title maxing for you, then take the quickest way...which is finish them all on your paragon.
In all honesty, the paragon CAN run variations of the same warrior type stuff. Not exactly the same with the exact same effectiveness, but with other benefits such as better e-management through shouts and leadership. In fact, I actually PREFER a paragon to a warrior any day.
Last of all, if you do decide to change your main title char, MAKE SURE YOU ENJOY PLAYING THE WARRIOR NOT BECAUSE IT SEEMS "BETTER", although they do play similarly to paras. There's nothing worse than doing multiple max titles on him before realizing "this is boring as hell.(although almost all titles are boring grind)" If you don't actually HATE playing your para, and are only contemplating switching because you think the warrior is shinier but you still enjoy the para...stick with the para. Although most people can be content with the joy of getting titles on whatever char it is, most of us actually have to like the char we're playing on. And since everyone has different tastes, don't switch just because of peer pressure, be sure its something YOU enjoy/want.
My 2 cents...
In all honesty, the paragon CAN run variations of the same warrior type stuff. Not exactly the same with the exact same effectiveness, but with other benefits such as better e-management through shouts and leadership. In fact, I actually PREFER a paragon to a warrior any day.
Last of all, if you do decide to change your main title char, MAKE SURE YOU ENJOY PLAYING THE WARRIOR NOT BECAUSE IT SEEMS "BETTER", although they do play similarly to paras. There's nothing worse than doing multiple max titles on him before realizing "this is boring as hell.(although almost all titles are boring grind)" If you don't actually HATE playing your para, and are only contemplating switching because you think the warrior is shinier but you still enjoy the para...stick with the para. Although most people can be content with the joy of getting titles on whatever char it is, most of us actually have to like the char we're playing on. And since everyone has different tastes, don't switch just because of peer pressure, be sure its something YOU enjoy/want.
My 2 cents...
Buster
Eight of nine character slots and 1 slot is saved for whatever. I only play 1 character because after grinding for titles with my necro I'm certainly not going to do it all over, yet again.
4thVariety
Stay with the paragon, if you really want to do all the hardmode titles too, it will be considerably easier with the Paragon.
AKB48
It's up to you, titles to me are of no importance unless for the norn, asuran, human and dwarven titles, since their rank directly affect the skills. But grind it if you want, it's summer, so you got plenty of time to waste and unless you got better things in life, grind the titles to make yourself happy.
IronSheik
Titles you have are nothing, start over. Guardian cantha can be done in a few hours, slayer of all takes 2-3 hours of semi paying attention
YunSooJin
you probably dont want to get involved with a warrior. costs way too much money to play properly >_>. at least it did for me. also some dungeons you can't pug (if you even want to) ie slaver's exile, cause they don't want a damned warrior.
bsjonson
I'll just say that if its between a Paragon & a Warrior, you are going to have an easier time maxing your titles on a Warrior. As for Dungeons, you are able to H/H them, even in HM, its no biggie. As for those you cant H/H by yourself, you can always do 'em with a guild team. I did Arachni's HM, Vloxen HM, most of Slaver's HM & couple other dungeons which are usually hard to find runs for with a guild team and it was quite fun.
And the title you have so far, you can get on your Warrior as well in < 1 week without even grinding, so its no biggie.
And the title you have so far, you can get on your Warrior as well in < 1 week without even grinding, so its no biggie.
cosyfiep
no one says you cant get all the titles on both....currently I have 16 characters that I play regularly ALL of them have prot of cantha...4 have level 1 koabd and 2 of level 2....(and 3 of my characters just have to finish little bits for another title or two--one mission here or .5%mapping there).
I find the game much more interesting playing on multiple characters....I get bored easily playing just one. So play them both and switch off when you want some change.
I find the game much more interesting playing on multiple characters....I get bored easily playing just one. So play them both and switch off when you want some change.
TheodenKing
I hate to be the one to point this out to you, but you haven't listed a single title that is difficult or expensive to re-acquire. You are worried about Norn? Are you serious? Handbooks... hello? Path to Revelations.... hello? Vanquishing... hello?
Targren
If you truly "HAAAAAATE grinding," then perhaps GWAMM is not the best goal to set for yourself...
zwei2stein
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If you truly "HAAAAAATE grinding," then perhaps GWAMM is not the best goal to set for yourself...
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But anyway, 4 maxed titles being huge investment? come on, you can redo those titles in about week of fairly casual gameplay if you focus on doing missions & do it smart (wait for double point weekend for grind titles.)
Darcy
A huge time investment is having 17 titles and wondering if you would enjoy another profession more. (No, I'm not wondering - I love my warrior.)
If you think you would have more fun with a warrior, make the change now, not later when you have done more titles on the paragon. Time speeds by when you are having fun.
As for Slaver's, most teams are Discord, and even a warrior can call targets. Just make sure all your useful heroes are well equipped and maxed for skills and there is almost nothing impossible for your warrior to accomplish. My only completion problems arise when another player is required and I cannot find a competent one to help. At which point I go to the Services Offered forum and hire someone to assist.
If you think you would have more fun with a warrior, make the change now, not later when you have done more titles on the paragon. Time speeds by when you are having fun.
As for Slaver's, most teams are Discord, and even a warrior can call targets. Just make sure all your useful heroes are well equipped and maxed for skills and there is almost nothing impossible for your warrior to accomplish. My only completion problems arise when another player is required and I cannot find a competent one to help. At which point I go to the Services Offered forum and hire someone to assist.
JONO51
All, I can say is, make sure you war has leg survivor. i have 22ish maxed on a para but had failed suvivor at level 2. Knowing what I know now, i would have remade when I failed (I never really intended to go for titles on the char when it was made). If I had, it would mean that I could more realistically get gwamm but meh cba now :P But yeah, if you know for sure you're gonna go for titles, make sure you get/have leg survivor.
The four titles you already have are easy to get, especially with the zquests as mentioned.
The four titles you already have are easy to get, especially with the zquests as mentioned.
Lishy
UWSC never got me any of those and that's had a majority of my time
Trader of Secrets
In all seriousness, those 4 max titles listed are easily gained, something like a vq title or party title is something to be more considered. And on the bright side you can get survivor title, something i completely skipped cuz i wasnt concerned about titles back in the days.
Accursed
Ask this question - paragon or warrior?
You seem to enjoy both of the professions, but who do you love more? The answer to your question is the answer to your problem.
You seem to enjoy both of the professions, but who do you love more? The answer to your question is the answer to your problem.
Reverend Dr
I'm not really understanding I guess. Your primary is whatever you say is your primary.
I know people that have just maxed a large number of titles on their monk, yet certainly don't consider their monk their primary.
I know people that have just maxed a large number of titles on their monk, yet certainly don't consider their monk their primary.