Avatar of Grenth

Lately I have been reading the forums and playing PvE with other dervs and I have seemed to notice that no one uses Avatar of Grenth after it was buffed a while back...why is this? I run the following build: OgGikysMdBOgxctDK6JuBf1DCA And although it isnt uber damage like other Dervs seem to run, it does help to keep the party alive alot longer, and you can spam SY + Whirling (with Splinter from heros) + Chilling Victory to AoE the crap out of everything, in addition to 20 Lifet Stealing from AoG and no blocks against enchanted foes. And if you take a smite hero with Judges Insight and SoH, you pump as much damage as any spammer will. So the question is, why dont more people use it? Its a great elite in my opinion, just as good as the attack spammer dervs everyone seems to be stuck on, but with more support and a better ability to survive I would argue. If you're using an avatar, you need Eternal Aura to maintain it. If you take Eternal Aura, that's one of your 3 PvE only skills gone. If you're using AoHM and SY! as well, then you can't use Asuran Scan. So, no, An AoG Derv does not deal as much damage as the typical WS or attack-spamming dervish.

What do you mean "whirling"? Whirlwind Attack? If so, that's another PvE only skill gone, so bye bye AoHM. And you'd have to be crazy not to use AoHM.

or even an offensive elite, like wounding strike... no, its, true, you dont get a self heal for that, but you kill stuff much faster, which will mean your monks wont have to heal so much damage, which will increase survivability... sometimes a gd offense is your best defense... which is why i use wounding strike What does wounding strike give you? Deep wound? Last I checked, it doesn't add any additional damage, just DW and bleeding. Both of which are easily applied with other skills. If anything, you should use reaper's sweep, at least that does + damage.

I never understood the love of WS, it's the spam of two easily obtained, (And in the case of bleeding) rather useless conditions. If you want deep wound, use "Finish Him!" instead. Which should be on all physical bars anyways.

If you want deep wound, use "Finish Him!" instead. Which should be on all physical bars anyways. Most physicals can't spam a 10 energy shout, and there are better things for most melees in terms of PvE.

Warriors have tons of DW skills, FH=Moot

Sins can DW and have better PvE Slots, AoHM, Crit Agility, Asuran, SY

Dervs usually don't have energy for FH, and again, better PvE slots, AoHM, Asuran, SY