Make Keg of Hunter's Ale Stackable

YunSooJin

YunSooJin

Pyromaniac

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/W

if you use one, make that one unstack automatically in the inventory, and make the stack unusuable if there aren't enough spaces in your inventory.

edit:

Adding another explanation, since you people obviously do not know what is going on:

A STACK of Keg of Hunter's Ale would be:

250 Kegs of Hunter's Ale with 50 charges EACH.

If you use the stack, you end up with

249 Kegs of Hunter's Ale with 50 charges EACH and ONE Keg Of Hunter's Ale with 49 charges.

Was that really hard?

IronSheik

IronSheik

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Join Date: Mar 2008

Wolfenstein: Goldrush

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I see no problem with this, I never had kegs when I was doing booze.
/signed

Pistachio

Pistachio

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Join Date: Jan 2006

W/R

Seriously. I keep getting them from Nick and they're taking up space.

Icy The Mage

Icy The Mage

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Canada

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/unsigned for game-mechanics reasons.

kyzia diera

Academy Page

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A/D

so either use them or sell them

Nihilim Dhiamara

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Join Date: Jan 2008

belgium

TFW

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get a stack for one with 50 uses, one with 49 uses ...
don't think it'll work

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by IcyFiftyFive View Post
/unsigned for game-mechanics reasons.
Exactly. As Aresfrombe said, this really wouldn't work.
The only way it could is if you could "merge" ales together (shift click on one keg with 50 uses, then on another with 49, and get a new keg with 99). But since a mechanic like that has NEVER existed and would need to be done just for this... /notsigned Way too much effort to code. Just drink em (or sell em). Even if you get 5 kegs a week from the traveller, you still have enough time to drink them all before the next week.

TheodenKing

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Quote:
Originally Posted by IcyFiftyFive View Post
/unsigned for game-mechanics reasons.
wut?

Having the full items stackable is not a game-mechanics issue. They could make them stackable. And they could make Perfect Salvage Kits stackable too. Of course, when they're trying to get people to spend real cash on xunlai storage space, there's a bit of a disincentive to make such an improvement.

A few days ago I sold a "keg party package" on the guru auction section. It consisted of 3 full kegs for 44k.

Shayne Hawke

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Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

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Making them each be their own item was a stupid idea when we already have a number of other ales that give a full five minutes. Allowing them to be stackable would be very sensible.

lilDeath

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Treehouse #1

W/

/signed

Keg's must be made stackable. It's annoying as hell.

Tenebrae

Tenebrae

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Spain

LHV

R/N

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Game mechanics , even its the same item a 19 uses keg cant be stacked with some that havent been used yet. Its like weap mods , cant stack em because a 20/20 is not the same than a 20/19 . Cant make em stackable without changing that. ...

IronSheik

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The OP said that the one that was a different number would automatically unstack.

I.E. you have two stacked 50 use kegs and a full inventory, you can't use one because it would unstack and you have no space.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

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Join Date: Aug 2005

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Again though, they would have to completely change how items are stored... just for this one obscure item. It's not going to happen.

Braxton619

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Join Date: Jul 2008

A/W

/notsigned

It's not like someone has 50 kegs of ale. Seriously... sell them or something.

Bob Slydell

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheodenKing View Post
wut?

Having the full items stackable is not a game-mechanics issue. They could make them stackable. And they could make Perfect Salvage Kits stackable too. Of course, when they're trying to get people to spend real cash on xunlai storage space, there's a bit of a disincentive to make such an improvement.

A few days ago I sold a "keg party package" on the guru auction section. It consisted of 3 full kegs for 44k.
Each "Item" has charges in it.

A "stack" is a stack of SINGLE items which perform one single task. Therefore, a stack of items with charges, simply dosen't work if you can stack them with different charges into one item and expect to break them down again back to normal.

Say you have a dying salvage kit and throw another on top of it, use a charge then throw another on top of it, use a few, throw another on top.. you are going to have screwed up kits if you ever expect to break them down into original items again. It probably won't work.

It sounds like an extremely bad file fragmentation nightmare on a hard drive.

smilingscar

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Join Date: Oct 2007

Frontline Legion

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Alternate suggestion to solve the mechanics problem: Create a collector who will convert 5 kegs of ale into one barrel of ale, which has 250 uses. Perhaps with a 100g fee.

Yes it introduces a new item, but it seems like it would be easier than trying to get the stacking thing to work.

Bob Slydell

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

I say just leave it alone at this point. Some things can be suggested and easily implemented and other cannot. We already got so many good addons to guildwars since release just enjoy.

Mason717

Mason717

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Join Date: Aug 2008

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Desolation Lords [DL]

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/unsigned
They make the titles to easy/cheap as it is. Plus this would promote botting it wayyyyyyyyyy more.

Nightmare Angel

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

Perth, Australia

We Want More [HUGS]

N/Mo

/notsigned

Too much coding hassles, especially when pretty much all the programmers has moved onto GW2

Bristlebane

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Join Date: Jan 2008

Mo/

I think all max charge items should be stackable, including runes and insignias. Using an item from such separate it from rest of the stack.

OT: I think 50-charge Kegs should stack, while 1-49 charge would not.

Gummy Kitty

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2008

MAGE

N/Mo

I got a better idea, make them so that you can double click on them and get all the pts at once, then you want have to waste any more precious space. Jk, I know that would be even more game breaking than otherwise noted.

Just a thought though what would it be like "if" you could mix drinks(you can in the real world)to make an even more powerful drink....for instance the full whiskey shot glass dropped into the mug of beer and chugged = one seriously messed up drunk person. And then lets say you could mix two drinks all pt values over 5 levels of drunk are absorbed upon consumption, but you get limited to 15pts over per day or something like that.

You know what would happen, everyone would still complain.

YunSooJin

YunSooJin

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Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/W

updated OP so that people would hopefully understand what I'm saying, instead of making stuff up that is not what I'm saying.

Bristlebane

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Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gummy Kitty View Post
make them so that you can double click on them and get all the pts at once
In fact isn't it ironic you can instantly jump up to 6 years ahead or back in time jumping between campaigns, but you have to wait 1 minute between your ales? :-)

V??na R??nd??ttir

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Hong Kong

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If a collector would give us separate aged ales for our kegs then we could stack them a bit more easily, like 250 instead of max 50 drinks per slot and it wouldn't require an extra item type. Perhaps a barkeeper NPC could even swap drink types for us too.
Personally I wouldn't mind if all those drinks were removed from the game altogether, as drinking them is too tedious when you have to count the minutes. Or make them easily drinkable like the sweet beverages.

Pistachio

Pistachio

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W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bristlebane View Post
I think all max charge items should be stackable, including runes and insignias. Using an item from such separate it from rest of the stack.

OT: I think 50-charge Kegs should stack, while 1-49 charge would not.
Good solution.

Or.

Why not be able to "merge" two kegs? So, you've got one keg with 10 uses left, and another with 40, put them together and you've got one full keg. That would allow them to stack.

crazybanshee

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Join Date: Jun 2006

Look out!

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There's probably something in the coding that keeps these from stacking (maybe they can't make it sort a 49 use keg from a 50 use so they don't stack them at all?) Probably also why they can't stack mods and weapons (ie can't sort a 14^50 from a 15^50 or something)

HawkofStorms

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Quote:
Originally Posted by YunSooJin View Post
updated OP so that people would hopefully understand what I'm saying, instead of making stuff up that is not what I'm saying.
We understand what you are saying. What we are saying is it CAN'T BE DONE!

Pistachio

Pistachio

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Join Date: Jan 2006

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by crazybanshee
There's probably something in the coding that keeps these from stacking (maybe they can't make it sort a 49 use keg from a 50 use so they don't stack them at all?) Probably also why they can't stack mods and weapons (ie can't sort a 14^50 from a 15^50 or something)
Not being able to stack those items is intentional on the part of the game designers. I can understand weapon mods, but consumables should always be able to be stacked together. It just makes sense.

Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms View Post
We understand what you are saying. What we are saying is it CAN'T BE DONE!
And why? Because it's beyond the scope of expertise by the development team? Because it's certainly not beyond the scope of the code, I guarantee you.

Shayne Hawke

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Clan Dethryche [dth]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by YunSooJin View Post
250 Kegs of Hunter's Ale with 50 charges EACH.

If you use the stack, you end up with

249 Kegs of Hunter's Ale with 50 charges EACH and ONE Keg Of Hunter's Ale with 49 charges.

Was that really hard?
Now that you explain that better, I understand how terrible of an idea this is.

All that needs to happen is to turn each individual keg into X items of the same level alcohol, depending on how many uses are left.

Puebert

Puebert

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Join Date: Oct 2005

Mo/

/not signed for coding reasons.

I'd rather have our next content update close to on time.

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

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Join Date: Apr 2005

/signed

FULL 50/50 kegs should be stackable, lesser ones don't need to be.

It would surely require some coding as it would be a new feature, but it could come as an addition to a much more needed update - making identical Weapon Mods and Inscriptions stackable.

YunSooJin

YunSooJin

Pyromaniac

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/W

People keep whining about how ITS NOT POSSIBLE TO CODE THIS, but I wonder with what kind of authority they are spewing their opinions.

lilDeath

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Treehouse #1

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There are lots of ways to get around this supposed coding problem and stacking it.
The real problem is Anet is focusing on GW2 and they have limited resources that have more than enough to do on GW1 - BUG fixes, Hero AI, Balance updates, XTH, HB, etc etc.

They could even have the 250 kegs stack, and when you use one, it starts counting down, 249 + 49/50, or...
Split the one off that's being used (opened) and keep the 249 together.

so..

/signed (again)

But they won't, so meh (see weapon upgrades / inscriptions for more examples of why they won't... too much work for them)

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

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Join Date: Nov 2006

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Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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They can't make items with uses stackable.
It has been asked before with kits.
The answer was 'no can do'.