Driving me insane! Solo Slaver's as A/Me?

Moonstalker

Moonstalker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

Club Of A Thousand Pandas [LOD???]

Mo/

I have only seen ONE person doing all of slaver's other then Duncan in the American/European districts. I'm not talking about using a build, going back to town, coming back, doing another boss. He stays in Slaver's, and kills all of the bosses.

How? HOW?! I can't think of any way to do this. The only thing I know is he uses some cons, one is quite obviously an Essence of Clarity. He may be using one or two others, possibly a Bday cupcake, and another con.

Anyone have any clues as to what his build could possibly be? I'm thinking Radiation field is in there somewhere, but when he kills, he kills one and maybe two at a time. He does each boss within 15 minutes, never over.

Experienced

Experienced

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

Serenity

Mo/

He has a special skill from A-net called "Non-Aggressor", which makes all monsters friendly / not attack you.

citizensmith1001

citizensmith1001

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2008

Behind You

[RoaR]

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Well if u don't want to just straight out ask him what skill set he uses why not just pay for a run and see for yourself what skills he is using ,thats if he does runs, you didn't make it clear in your post wether he does or not.

Brummie

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2009

Just ask him what build he uses...

Moonstalker

Moonstalker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

Club Of A Thousand Pandas [LOD???]

Mo/

I've asked, I've gotten ran by him twice, he does run, and he won't give you the build.
If you die during a the runs to watch him, he'll stop what he's doing until you get res'd, so you still can't see what his build is.

capblye

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

KoH

W/N

Smart fellow ... filling demand ... if he tells you how to supply, no more demand.

RELLIK69

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2008

FIF

W/N

I have seen a sin use this build Deadly paradox,Shadow Form,Cry of Pain,Wandering Eye,Clumsiness,Either nightmare,Channeling.and Deaths charge I hope this helps

Moonstalker

Moonstalker

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Join Date: Jan 2007

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Mo/

That looks pretty legit. I'll give it a go, but it all seems too simple. I'm expecting some huge build with tons of candy cons and such >.>
I've been talking to him, he uses, as far as I know, 2 more cons..
My guess:
Candy Apple and or Bday Cupcake
Candy Corn

EDIT:
Didn't work. KD spam and the touchers got to me. I killed the touchers pretty easy after I learned when they spawn, but, the Trample spam doesn't do me any good.

Calor Estalle

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2008

R/

Throw in Dwarven Stability, perhaps? I dunno what would be taken out, maybe Death's Charge?

Paul Dawg

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2008

House of Myrthe (HoMe)

W/

You can still watch what he's doing even if you're alive. Click on his name in the party list and watch. Of course it's better if you're dead so that you can actually see him, but ANY information is better than no information.

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I've asked, I've gotten ran by him twice, he does run, and he won't give you the build.
If you die during a the runs to watch him, he'll stop what he's doing until you get res'd, so you still can't see what his build is.

Paul Dawg

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2008

House of Myrthe (HoMe)

W/

There are levels in Slaver's where you face foes pretty much right away. You have to be able to see SOMETHING of what he does.

payne

payne

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

england (currently located on the south coast)

R/

think I may know who it is...and...

anywho - just take a full run and when it gets to Duncan's dungeon watch him...he has to cast ASAP otherwise first group will kill him - UNLESS he just runs through the first mob with shadow form so you can't follow - unless you run a shadow form bar as well to keep up with him ?

Moonstalker

Moonstalker

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Join Date: Jan 2007

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Mo/

He doesn't do Duncan with this build, everyone knows Duncan's build, so he doesn't bother with that. His build is just for the 4 pre bosses.

And clicking on his name and watching him run gives me two skills that are very obvious in any perma build:
Deadly Paradox
Shadow Form

Axel Zinfandel

Axel Zinfandel

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Northeastern Ohio

LaZy

P/W

Hmm that's mighty interesting. Very, very smart guy too. Doesn't want his build getting out and ruining his fun, I don't blame him.

Well I guarentee you if the run exists -someone- else will find out about it eventually. Farming builds never stay secret for long.

Painbringer

Painbringer

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

Minnesota

Black Widows of Death

W/Mo

Degen mesmer skills? with perma ?

M @ T

M @ T

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

South of heaven

S E X Y Shinigami[SEXY]

W/

Ancestor's Visage οr Spirit Shackles on monks, Cry of Pain, Channeling for energy management, Ether Nightmare, Arc echo for Shackles(more than 1 monks) or CoP(everything mentioned till now is Inspiration btw), and Chaos Storm / Clumsiness / Shatter Delusions for Ether Nightmare / Wastrel's Worry when the monks run out of energy maby?

Vipers defence for extra degen?

Dunno, just guessing :/

EDIT: I suppose some form of self healing too just in case perhaps.. What's that Kurzick/Luxon skill that blinds you but gives lolarmor and regen? Or is it sunspear, not sure >.<

RadaArashi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2007

A/

Whats his ign? someone could try to go do some spying lol

craigrs84

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2007

A/

i'm quite sure ancestors visage doesnt trigger unless you are acutally hit.

_Nihilist_

_Nihilist_

Will Bull's Strike for $!

Join Date: Apr 2006

Isle of the Dead

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Originally Posted by Wiki
Full: For 4...9 seconds, whenever target ally is hit by a melee attack, all adjacent foes lose all adrenaline and 3 Energy.

Concise: (4...9 seconds.) All adjacent foes lose all adrenaline and 3 Energy whenever a melee attack hits target ally. Ancestor's and Sympathetic won't work. Under SF all attacks miss, so no go.

Moonstalker

Moonstalker

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Join Date: Jan 2007

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Mo/

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Whats his ign? someone could try to go do some spying lol Pretty sure it's against the rules to post another person's IGN on the forums :P
Just head to Doomlore Dis1 every so often and you'll see him run. Then again, there are two runners now doing it... One is A/E the one we're talking about is A/Me, the, in my opinion, better one.

the slasher

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2009

Knight Of Echovald[KoE]

A/

doesnt justiciar tommis have healing signet? I'm not sure, but if he has, the degen from that build would never be able to outcap his healing, and even if it did, looking at his max health+ heals from signet, it would take AGES just to beat him...

Moonstalker

Moonstalker

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Mo/

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doesnt justiciar tommis have healing signet? I'm not sure, but if he has, the degen from that build would never be able to outcap his healing, and even if it did, looking at his max health+ heals from signet, it would take AGES just to beat him... He has Healing Sig, he also has Priests around him and Trample spamming pain in the asses. I don't know.. D:

JimmyNeutron

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

All I have to say is...Company Trade secret for now...

and yes, I can solo Forge, Rand, Selve, Thommis all with one build and without leaving Slaver's Exile dungeon at all. However, finding party that needs all 4 bosses run is very rare and I prefer to do one dungeon at a time and tweak them to each dungeon specifically.

And no, we do not use any other cons other than the obvious that everyone sees on their screen; Essence. It requires a lot of luck and timing. During my runs, I missed out on 90% of the conversations because I'm too busy focusing on what's going on. You really don't have the time to chat too much and do the run at the same time.

And you're correct, the rules are:

1. No afk
2. No dying
3. U die, I die.

M @ T

M @ T

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

South of heaven

S E X Y Shinigami[SEXY]

W/

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That sounds like another plausible build, but not quite right. And you're thinking of Shadow Sanctuary, I think. Something with the acronym "SS" :P

You'll get hurt a lot. Dervishes have their auras, if you're not careful, the touchers will mob you in less than 2 seconds, and the Djinn things have their Haste spell that has a PBAoE affect. Yep, you're right on both. On the build part now, I thought of Spirit Shackles for the same reasons you mentioned above.. It does work only on one foe but it's spammable and good energy management along with Channeling. If this works you got another 4 skills to spare for damage/heal etc(already got the perma SF=2 skills+channeling and Spirit Shackles), but still you need carefull aggro management and luck .

Perhaps using somekind of bait that can tank for a few seconds to apply Spitit Shackles? Like a summoning stone or whatever? Dunno if there's any kind of stone/PvE summoning skill that can last that long.. I'm just throwing some ideas on the table here, don't take me wrong lol

Painbringer

Painbringer

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

Minnesota

Black Widows of Death

W/Mo

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All I have to say is...Company Trade secret for now...

and yes, I can solo Forge, Rand, Selve, Thommis all with one build and without leaving Slaver's Exile dungeon at all. However, finding party that needs all 4 bosses run is very rare and I prefer to do one dungeon at a time and tweak them to each dungeon specifically.

And no, we do not use any other cons other than the obvious that everyone sees on their screen; Essence. It requires a lot of luck and timing. During my runs, I missed out on 90% of the conversations because I'm too busy focusing on what's going on. You really don't have the time to chat too much and do the run at the same time.

And you're correct, the rules are:

1. No afk
2. No dying
3. U die, I die. Ok if you are really running this please post in the Services Offered section. Post your rules times and what is expected. I am sure you will get a huge interest.

Scott Ware

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2009

Texas

N/

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Yep, you're right on both. On the build part now, I thought of Spirit Shackles for the same reasons you mentioned above.. It does work only on one foe but it's spammable and good energy management along with Channeling. If this works you got another 4 skills to spare for damage/heal etc(already got the perma SF=2 skills+channeling and Spirit Shackles), but still you need carefull aggro management and luck .

Perhaps using somekind of bait that can tank for a few seconds to apply Spitit Shackles? Like a summoning stone or whatever? Dunno if there's any kind of stone/PvE summoning skill that can last that long.. I'm just throwing some ideas on the table here, don't take me wrong lol
Maybe ignorance? So he can't use Healing Signet? Along with Spirit Shackling the monks he wouldn't get much healing (if any).

daphoenix555

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2009

W/

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Originally Posted by JimmyNeutron
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All I have to say is...Company Trade secret for now...

and yes, I can solo Forge, Rand, Selve, Thommis all with one build and without leaving Slaver's Exile dungeon at all. However, finding party that needs all 4 bosses run is very rare and I prefer to do one dungeon at a time and tweak them to each dungeon specifically.

And no, we do not use any other cons other than the obvious that everyone sees on their screen; Essence. It requires a lot of luck and timing. During my runs, I missed out on 90% of the conversations because I'm too busy focusing on what's going on. You really don't have the time to chat too much and do the run at the same time.

And you're correct, the rules are:

1. No afk
2. No dying
3. U die, I die. u do realize this whole thread is not referring to u but someone else.

Moonstalker

Moonstalker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

Club Of A Thousand Pandas [LOD???]

Mo/

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Originally Posted by JimmyNeutron
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All I have to say is...Company Trade secret for now...

and yes, I can solo Forge, Rand, Selve, Thommis all with one build and without leaving Slaver's Exile dungeon at all. However, finding party that needs all 4 bosses run is very rare and I prefer to do one dungeon at a time and tweak them to each dungeon specifically.

And no, we do not use any other cons other than the obvious that everyone sees on their screen; Essence. It requires a lot of luck and timing. During my runs, I missed out on 90% of the conversations because I'm too busy focusing on what's going on. You really don't have the time to chat too much and do the run at the same time.

And you're correct, the rules are:

1. No afk
2. No dying
3. U die, I die. The guy I'm talking about doesn't do single runs, or at least I'm pretty sure. I already know others can do it, but I know he's the best, so ehhh.

JimmyNeutron

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

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u do realize this whole thread is not referring to u but someone else. But it also not referring to you only. There are many other permas that can solo all the 4 bosses with just one build just that we choose not to because of the lack of people needing all 4 at once.

Go to Doomlore and you'll see people offering runs for all the 4 bosses. All comes down to, why pay for a boss that you don't need unless the runner decides not to charge you for it.

Ex. All I need is Forge, so why should I pay for the other 3 bosses unless the other 3 bosses are free. If free, than this leads to the problem below.

Someone can pretend they only need Forge, when in fact, they need all 4, and just pay for Forge only but get the other 3 for free. See???

Axel Zinfandel

Axel Zinfandel

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Northeastern Ohio

LaZy

P/W

Maybe he has BAMPH :O

MrGuildBoi

MrGuildBoi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

A/

MY question is why you go to Doomlore for Slaver runs?

M @ T

M @ T

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

South of heaven

S E X Y Shinigami[SEXY]

W/

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Maybe ignorance? So he can't use Healing Signet? Along with Spirit Shackling the monks he wouldn't get much healing (if any). Sounds quite right actually . You would need only 4 in Domination to shutdown a person from using signets. If you got the energy ofcourse, but that's what Channeling might is there for.

I guess we have to wait and see

JimmyNeutron

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

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MY question is why you go to Doomlore for Slaver runs? Doomlore is the run capital for all dungeons. Most dungeons run group starts formation from there and people get teleported to the final town.

You go where the majority of the people are that are looking for runs. In most cases, it's Doomlore unless there is a boss bounty out then you will find runners offering runs in the town closest to the boss bounty.

Me Small Darn

Me Small Darn

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2007

In Memorium

1. Deadly Paradox
2. Shadow Form
3. Channeling
4. Spirit of Failure/Opptional
5. Cry of Pain
6. Either Nightmare
7. Radiation Field
8. Death Charge/Another heal

You need Celeritys for the run. And maybe rock candies or another sweet.
My only problem is getting through the door at Selve, just because of the Touchers. As for the runner I had. He ran it with A/Me till Thommis, then he brought out the A/E. Only way I know how to do it.