UWSC A/D Vale: Shadow Refuge v.s. Way of Perfection

Placed in this subforum since it's about a farming build -- if it would be a better fit in the Assassin class discussion, feel free to move this thread.

Anyways, for an A/D scythe Vale build, which selfheal do you prefer and why?
I find Way of Perfection to be somewhat risky since it relies on critting and balling up the ghosts correctly (sometimes they glitch and scatter, especially with the last group up on the hill) ... others say that Shadow Refuge is annoying because you have to recast it every 8 seconds, but on the other hand it has a 100+ hard heal at the end if you're attacking (and chances are, you will be attacking.) An unlucky nightmare spawn will strip you of your WoP for several 10's of seconds, but because of Refuge's short recharge/duration you can have it up again very quickly.

Also, I don't need the "if you're good then it doesn't matter" type comments. Even if you're good you probably have some sort of preference! I'm also not interested in /N builds because of how slow they are (and I dislike poop green HP bars.)

I use neither, this is what i use. If the necro you get is decent you don't need too much healing.

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But, if you were to use one of those 2, WoP is much better with A/D.

what aga said... just make sure the necro knows when you use Chilblains (i hate bein vale sin & dumb necro notices they used IW when ur at 1/3 health & u used it already :S) & make sure you get then nicely so u hit all 3

ohhh & when i vale i like the necro to bring GDW over splinter... idk i like the kd :S

i use both just in case instead of mystic and urals hammer. though i think i'll give that build a try. must hit for crazzzzzy damage. with the 3 self heals i think you can solo vale, not that you'd want to. but in any case, a/d is faster than a/n for sure. though i saw some guy as a/e with ebon vanguard assassin, flame djinn, sliver, and stoneflesh and said it was his favourite

Use both;

deadly + sf + mystic sweep + Optional + refuge + WoP + AoHM + WoTM


It's a fairly reliable bar, put in either Asuran Scan if you're mediocre, Ebon Ward if you're good, or Death's Charge if you're laggy

what's this asuran scan if you're mediocre business! i'm pretty sure you hit higher with asuran scan than the ward. though if you balled all 3, it might be a different story

I use the same bar as aga if i have a decent necro. If the nec is bad enough to warrant a selfheal (other than DC), I bring WoP.

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