So OK, GW2 might be subtitled "Blighted Empire(s)", and the next WoW expansion is probably named "Cataclysm".
Looking forward to more exciting news, but can it get any better? SCNR.

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beanerman_99
I am sure D3 and GW2 will go along nicely. Neither has monthly fees and most people do not care that much about grinding. The only question is really which one you buy first.
The Old Republic is a tougher decision though. It's all about how many hours is that game storywise and how many months of subscription does that translate to. Again, grinding it is not as compelling. Hopefully it does not end up being a super-expensive solo RPG in which you may ignore the fact that the other things on the screen are real people. Bioware will have to prove first that they not only can enter the MMO space, but also create compelling co-op play. Something ArenaNet has the edge on both competitors. D3's edge is the franchise name among hardcore gamers and the easy to handle gameplay. GW2's edge is the co-op play and the competitive costs. Old Republic's edge is Bioware's story telling abilities and the franchise name among everybody. |
Lonesamurai
Cacheelma
I think they do care. Look what happened with Warhammer Online; about 1 week after Warhammer Online announced its release date, Blizzard announced WoTLK's release date to be 3 months later. WoTLK was rushed, and ended up shipping with zones like Crystalsong that didn't even have any content in them. After WAR's release, Blizzard came out publicly about how they were looking at implementing certain features (which WAR had) such as queueing for BGs from anywhere. The lead WoW designer also talked about some of his poor experiences in WAR regarding grouping, pvp, and public quests. After WoTLK released they also made public statements about how people who had given the reason: Warhammer as leaving for WoW, had mostly returned to WoW. Previously they had never commented about competing games, yet suddenly there was this huge burst of commentary about WAR.
When WAR released in ~August, about 3 days after I canceled my WoW account for reason: Warhammer Online (they did bother to put that option available in the Why You Quit survey), I received an invitation to the WoTLK beta. I don't think that was a coincidence. |
Amnel Ithtirsol
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IlikeGW
Mordakai
So you're saying Blizzard did care about Warhammer Online. That has NOTHING to do with whether they care about GW and Anet or not. So Ctb's points still stand.
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Rocky Raccoon
"@Tr0nc3k Yes, there will be some news about GW2 later this year.1:27 PM Jul 20th from Seesmic in reply to Tr0nc3k"
Right, how many years have they said this? They're trying to be incognito and generate hype but instead they've made promises over and over and are moving more into the failed media campaign of something like DNF. |
shoyon456
When are you and others who espouse the same opinions over and over going to give it up? You are all acting like jilted lovers, who after the romance is over go out of their way to denigrate their former love. There are way more facts that GW2 is in the works and will be released than to the contrary.
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Buster
FoxBat
Because wether it is a mmo or not you are ultimately competing for players free time.
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Amnel Ithtirsol
I'm sure what the other poster was commenting on was Anet's lack of PR or communication to the GW1 playerbase. Most of us are very certain that GW2 will of course eventually come, but the general dissatisfaction with Anet at this point brings people to call into question the very existence of it.
EX: Campaign every 6 months - That didn't last long Anti grind philosophy - last time I checked, I cant get into a HA group cause I'm not ranked, but I cant get rank until I win in a group a few times (although, this is more due to the game getting stale) Anti grind philosophy - Ursan and PvE title linked skills that will prevent an individual from joining a group until they get their rank up Broken farming - Shadowform, they buffed it this time LAST YEAR, and it is still an overly efficient form of Speed Clearing all sorts of "elite" areas GW2 website, news, beta, etc... by the end of 2008 - Still haven't seen a single screenshot and its halfway through 2009 High quality support continued for GW1 while GW2 is produced - Bless Linsey's little heart for working day and night, but that small team recently opted out of even producing a July skill update More open about the update process - Other than removing heros from GvG/HA and making new henchies, we don't know what "PvP love" really means The fact is, I think people and myself would be really understanding of some of the neglect GW1 has gotten, if we could see anet still had magic fingers with GW2. Right now, it just seems as if Anet can't manage a game they already have, and doesn't care what their current players think about it. |
Buster
Only subscription based games really have this problem in large quantities. Plenty of people can buy D2 and play normal mode just once or twice, get bored but still think they've gotten their value of it. Similarly you can just breeze through the gw main campaign once or twice and be done with it. This is fine for the companies because they already got your basic $60. They can make more off of microtransactions or secondary accounts from the hardcore base, but those guys aren't the sole marketing focus.
WoW and the like really aim for hooking people with that $15 a month. Since most gamers are unwilling to pay that for more than one game at a time (and maybe two max), subscription-based games really are competing for player's sole attention. |
Calvar Draveir
Vel
Tahlia Tane
Most of us are very certain that GW2 will of course eventually come, but the general dissatisfaction with Anet at this point brings people to call into question the very existence of it.
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Most of us are very certain that GW2 will of course eventually come, but the general dissatisfaction with Anet at this point brings people to call into question the very existence of it.
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Anti grind philosophy - last time I checked, I cant get into a HA group cause I'm not ranked, but I cant get rank until I win in a group a few times (although, this is more due to the game getting stale)
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Anti grind philosophy - Ursan and PvE title linked skills that will prevent an individual from joining a group until they get their rank up
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GW2 website, news, beta, etc... by the end of 2008 - Still haven't seen a single screenshot and its halfway through 2009
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TottWriter
Thalador Doomspeaker
Originally Posted by Movement of the World
In the year 1127 AE, Emperor Usoku, successor to Kisu, took a firm hold of his nation. He raised the Canthan military, spending millions in gold to arm his troops, and then swept the countryside. He defeated the Luxons and the Kurzick, incorporating these disparate people back into his nation. Usoku unified Cantha behind a strong national identity and began to drive out all non-humans. His regime was ironclad, tyrannical, and fierce. Those Canthans who did not agree with the emperor's dictates were given no choice but to leave their homeland, seeking refuge and sanctuary in Elona and Tyria.
As a result, Cantha became extremely isolationist. Once Orr rose from the ocean, those tendencies were reinforced by an inability to safely sail the western seas. Any ships venturing near the Strait of Malchor are sunk by the black ships, then dredged from the ocean floor by the Orrian dragon and commandeered into service. Thus, completely cut off from Kryta, Cantha vanished entirely. Travelers, refugees, and even Xunlai agents residing within Tyrian [sic] heard nothing more from Cantha. Sporadic sailors have washed ashore on the southern coast of the Maguuma jungles [sic], but that is the only evidence that Cantha even exists past the cataclysmic event that cut it off from Tyria. It can only be assumed that Usoku's successors continued his dictatorial, isolationist rule, and that Cantha continues beneath the iron fist of the emperor, as ever. |
QueenofDeath
Lonesamurai
Perhaps you better look up the definition of MMO. D2 is as much of a MMO as GW and any other MMO out there. And if you want to get really technical GW isn't even a MMO by their own designers words. They call it a CO-OP RPG nothing anywhere close to an MMO by your definitions. Anywhere a mass gathers and online and can form a group together can and is considered an MMO.
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Abedeus
Because if there's very few info about a game that is some time away, it could mean it doesn't exist!
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Well they're working on a new game... makes sense to me. |
This is an attitude of players that ArenaNet can't do much about except get rid of the rank. I totally agree that this kind of elitist attitude ruins the game. |
I don't ever recall any people being rejected from a group for not having a high enough PvE title rank. |
The plan was to do public testing somewhere in 2008, like they did public testing early in the original Guild Wars. They've decided that they would do public testing in the same way most MMORPG's do; by having a test very close to release. |
Questioning the very existence of a game because you haven't had enough info for your tastes is just being plain obtuse. |
They said they would support the game, I don't know what 'high quality support' means. Guild Wars is an old game. Is it really that surprising that you don't enjoy that much anymore? How many games do you end playing as much as Guild Wars and still enjoy it? |
JR
Because we believe A.Net in every way. It's not like they don't have any other franchise except for Guild Wars and their last game was a crappy expansion pack that broke the game even more than it already was.
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They are "saying" they are working on a new game. Just like the creators of Duke Nukem Forever said that few times. But they had screenshots and gameplay by the end...
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4 years is old? Neverwinter Nights was almost 6 years old when they stopped making patches, the servers are still running thanks to GameSpy and the game isn't making more money than GW. Diablo 2? I know that WoW helps a bit, but they also still support Warcraft 3 and Starcraft. Ragnarok Online? 6 years old and still there will be a huge future content pack, rebalancing the mobs and skills and adding another world to the game.
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Mordakai
Konig Des Todes
Nodakim
Leather Square
Mordakai
dunky_g
Well, isn't that the whole reason (or one of the reasons) Ursan was nerfed in the first place?
Anyway, we've gotten way off-topic, there's a whole thread about Ursan here http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10395579 I shouldn't have taken one point someone was making out of context like that, my bad. But maybe someone can explain to me how every GW2 speculation thread becomes a "bitch about Guild Wars" thread? |