cleave change

beagle warrior

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i was just thinking that cleave is meant to be a high damage spamable skill, the problem is that its spamibility doesn't make up for its like of spiking ability in pvp. so my idea is to change cleave to something like this...

Cleave
4a
Elite Axe Attack. If this attack hits, you strike for +10...26...30 damage and gain 1 adrenaline.

by adding the gain adrenaline clause it allows for more spamming of cleave along with spamming of the other skills used in its "mini spike" (ex: dismember).

what do you guys think?

king_trouble

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Even gaining one adrenaline could provide some balance issues combined with low adrenaline cost.

Lishy

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Even gaining one adrenaline could provide some balance issues combined with low adrenaline cost.
Warrior's Endurance + Power Attack

Wut's so bad?
Cleave needs a buff.
Unless it reveals more of Livia's Cleavage, it'll still be the shittiest Cleave ever.

beagle warrior

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Originally Posted by king_trouble View Post
Even gaining one adrenaline could provide some balance issues combined with low adrenaline cost.
i dont see why since you could just bring FGJ! for adrenaline gain right now. this would just combine the two skills the same way eviscerate does with exectioners strike and dismember

Lux Aeterna

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Cleave sounds boring so you will never make me care.

Run primal rage scythe, is WAY TO GO.

Fabez

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I'm not sure if we need a "Dragon Slash"-esque skill for Axes, as for my suggestion...

The skill closest to Cleave in functionality is Executioner's Strike:
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Cleave (4a)- If this attack hits, you strike for +10...26 damage.
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Executioner's Strike (8a)- If this attack hits, you strike for +10...34 damage.
Increase the damage to +10...34 (the same as Executioner's Strike) and give it a 1 second activation time: there's the low-cost spammable skill you're looking for.

beagle warrior

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Increase the damage to +10...34 (the same as Executioner's Strike) and give it a 1 second activation time: there's the low-cost spammable skill you're looking for.
it already is a low-cost spammable skill, what i was trying to do was increase the spammability even more

IronSheik

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I like Fabez's suggestion, it isn't eviscerate, but it had great spike capability.

moriz

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the thing is, why use cleave, when you can use whirling axe? sure, whirling axe deals less damage, but it does something useful on top of it.

Evasion Twenty

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Because enemies dont usually mob in PvP, besides AB.

Axe is better in JQ if you must ^_^

IronSheik

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Because enemies dont usually mob in PvP, besides AB.

Axe is better in JQ if you must ^_^
Lol what does this have to do with anything, if you mean whirling axe....it's single target.

Evasion Twenty

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Right, thought it was triple chop. Similar icons lol

beagle warrior

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the thing is, why use cleave, when you can use whirling axe? sure, whirling axe deals less damage, but it does something useful on top of it.
thats exactly the point, right now cleave has no added benefit but i think that with my suggestion cleave will gain a spot in pressure builds

Mad Lord of Milk

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thats exactly the point, right now cleave has no added benefit but i think that with my suggestion cleave will gain a spot in pressure builds
CLEAVE IS FOR PVE. PvP already has enough Axe Pressure builds.