[pRma] DoA FoCway, - Technically Challenging,

Silent Enemy

Silent Enemy

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2009

Deep Down The Rabbit Hole !

Systematized Delusions [sD]

A/Me

Now im gonna be very honest - this is not a build for the newer groups - it requires OP (On-Point) spikes and healing,
and is very demanding on tanks to pull properly, - i present this too you all. to present a challenge,
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Sliver,


Equipment: +10vs demons shield. +10vs Earth Shield. and +5E 20%enchant weapon,
Runes: Full Blessed Insignia. Superior Shadow arts, Attunement runes,
Optional: +45 HP (while enchanted) . 20% reduced Cripple Duration, Shield.


Recall,


Equipment: +10vs demons shield. +10vs Earth Shield. and +5E 20%enchant weapon,
Runes: Full Blessed Insignia. Superior Shadow arts, Attunement runes,
Optional: +45 HP (while enchanted) . 20% reduced Cripple Duration, Shield.


Failer,


Equipment: +10vs demons shield. +10vs Earth Shield. and +5E 20%enchant weapon. +5E 20%enchant Longbow,
Runes: Full Blessed Insignia. Superior Shadow arts, Attunement runes,
Optional: +45 HP (while enchanted) . 20% reduced Cripple Duration, Shield.


VoR Caller,


Equipment: 40/40 Domination Set, +10vs Earth Shield,
Runes: Full Radiant / Survivor. Superior Domination, Minor Fast Casting, Attunement,
Optional: None,


FoC Mimic,


Equipment: 40/40 Curses Set, +10vs Earth Shield
Runes: Full Radiant / Survivor. Superior Curses, Attunement,
Optional: None.


FoC Parasistic,


Equipment: 40/40 Curses Set, +10vs Earth Shield,
Runes: Full Radiant / Survivor. Superior Curses, Attunement,
Optional: None.



UA Defiler,


Equipment: 40/40 Curses Set, +10vs Earth Shield,
Runes: Full Radiant / Survivor. Superior Curses, Attunement,
Optional: None.


Spirit Bonder,


Equipment: 40/40 Protection Prayer's Set, +15-1 +15-1 High Energy set. +5E 20%enchant weapon. +10vs Earth shield,
Runes: Full Radiant / Survivor. Minor Protection, Minor Divine Favor, Attunement,
Optional: None.
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Some Screenshots from our (so far) best Times Acchieved Using this teambuild,

http://img7.hostingpics.net/pics/314566gw527.jpg
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/8892/gw177p.jpg

The above times. were acchieved starting in veil, and having abit of a rough time on the tendrils + gloom,
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We did not create the split's, but this way of using the split's - and the team setup - are all [pRma]

Credit to the Respectable individuals who helped in the Creation of this: [pRma] [agro] [MiNi],
Thanks to psyborg Angel and Legendary Galadriel - for originally creating hte Trentchway Tactics,

matthijs123

matthijs123

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Netherlands

Desolation Lords [DL]

A/

Tactics would be nice, and some screenshots maybe? Although this doesn't look like the fastest build around, it might come out surprising

Silent Enemy

Silent Enemy

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2009

Deep Down The Rabbit Hole !

Systematized Delusions [sD]

A/Me

Tactics Works around a 3way split - that is. tbh - alittle more than just ''difficult''. to explain,

were averaging 54 minute runs with it so far. undependant on wich zone we start in - this however has something to do with the fact. that its rather new. and we have new people along on allmost every run,

We do daiily run - i will take some screenshots today.

Life Bringing

Life Bringing

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2008

Fissure of Woe

[LOD]/[GS]/[DL]/[LOD*]

N/P

Tbh, 54 isn't that fast. Other guilds can get 54 with more reliable builds, without completely gimping themselves by dropping a healer. I can't imagine that your rate of completion is anywhere near as high as it could/should be.

However, seeing as agro had a part in this, it probably does work. I still think you'd do better by bringing more healing.

matthijs123

matthijs123

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Netherlands

Desolation Lords [DL]

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Life Bringing View Post
Tbh, 54 isn't that fast. Other guilds can get 54 with more reliable builds, without completely gimping themselves by dropping a healer. I can't imagine that your rate of completion is anywhere near as high as it could/should be.

However, seeing as agro had a part in this, it probably does work. I still think you'd do better by bringing more healing. 54 is nice, but as you mentioned, the rate of completion will be lower then other builds which can get the same times, but we'll see It's a new build, needs some practise.

Silent Enemy

Silent Enemy

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2009

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so far weve failed 1 run - and had 12-14 runs thats gone flawless.

as far as ''gimping'' you only gimp yourself taking out the healer. if you rely on that.
we like to rely on spiking and pulling correctly first time,

Celebrian

Celebrian

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

Stop Stealing [agro]

W/

this works just fine, just for the record.

Anyways we're currently in the making of a new DoA guide with all the updated tactics. Dont know if we're going to include the trenchway tactics as its pretty hard to pull off for the average team. It will be focused around the "manlyway" build as well, where the completion times are very much identical even with only 2 tanks.

thanks for the builds pRma!

Sacratus Ignis

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2007

SCAR

E/

Looks interesting thx for posting.

Silent Enemy

Silent Enemy

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Join Date: Apr 2009

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thanks for the builds pRma! Your welcome kenny :P - could have just asked
Looking forward to see the new guide. even tho i know the run

Schnellburg

Schnellburg

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

America -5 GMT

Me/

Agreed, this looks very interesting. I'm interested in tactics and pictures are well. Isn't veil an issue with the hungers?

Schnellburg

Schnellburg

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

America -5 GMT

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Im basically guessing they just spam spirit bond on the tank over and over, similar to Infuse->Seed->Infuse. Looks promising. Congrats.

Schnellburg

Schnellburg

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

America -5 GMT

Me/

Yeah i was just wondering about the 3 big hunger groups in Veil. I'm not doubting it won't work, it does just sound like it is more difficult then it should be. And to be honest, I'm surprised if Spirit Bond provides enough healing to keep the tank up. I mean they do have quite a bit of touch skills, but would Dark Aura trigger Spirit Bond, or does the touch skills? If both then I hope it is a quick spike.

Zozio

Zozio

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2008

N/A

Ye, Dark Aura triggers Spirit Bond whereas touch skills don't.
This is enough to keep the tank up even if the Bonder has to got the perfect timing to not cause scatter and to keep the tank alive ofc.

Manek

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

France

pRma

W/A

Current time,doing shit at gloom & tendrils,starting in veil & taking chest:

http://img7.hostingpics.net/pics/314566gw527.jpg

ashes

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2007

Beertown ;P

RoP

E/Mo

Thanks for posting, and nice interface btw xP

gerg-nad

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2006

Minnesota

[OhNo]

This does not appear to be a HM build as all the screen shots do not show HM. Update: Guess I did not know about the Icons.

Based on the skills and the path, the biggest time improvement appears to be a Veil split with NT to the trench and the rest take the incoming mobs. I suspect the UA and Failer do the trenches.

Silent Enemy

Silent Enemy

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2009

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^^ the icons are changed in the texmods we use. the icon showing the Shield = HM

viens87

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

Riga

SCAR

Me/

50/50% chance to fail UA .. so it is danger

ZodiacFear

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2008

Rt/

The PvE version of UA doesn't have a fail chance with less than 5 Divine Favor..

Zozio

Zozio

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2008

N/A

There's no chance to fail UA in its pve version.

Glory_Blade

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2009

im to pro to join [pRma]

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Quote:
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Tactics Works around a 3way split - that is. tbh - alittle more than just ''difficult''. to explain Oh no probs i will explain for you how to do trenchway. Go into veil take a right and agro the golem group, use price of failure and necrosis to kill 1 right before you kill 1 tho cast SF let it drop and weild a vamp wep as soon as your about to die kill it have the UA NT down, you die he UA's you and now your in the trench (the UA gets out by another UA). Now that your in the trench go down and take a left SoH (shadow of haste) as close as you can get to the group of fiends then run back and wait for them to pass where you SoH'd, then end SoH with deadly and move on to the lord go straight and take a left go 2 little cutouts in the wall so you don't agro the group of hungers that patrol. Now cast SF then SoH, run in and longbow the lord then quickly hit deadly and jump out (the lord will follow you to your spot) then cast price of failure and necrosis the lord down with casting lb sig for energy. Now that you killed that you can move on, watch where the hungers end by the next lord (mes) SoH as close as you can to them then run back and wait for them to go past your SoH mark then end SoH with deadly then take a left at the first trench on the left. cast SF then SOH 1 longbow hit then deadly out(should follow) kill then move on. SoH like described above on the next group then you will come to a 2 way split where you can go left and right. Go right agro the group go along the left wall going to the lord and don't pop hungers and longbow the lord out and kill. You have a group on you now at the 2 way intersection go left now when the fiends are gone SoH then run back to where the lord was then deadly out and run into the empty trench(nothing will pop) skip the hungers with SoH (as described above). then find the spot where you can't agro any groups and not pop any in the middle of the 3 way split of where you came from to the lord and to where deadmaw is, wait for it to be clear (REALLY CLEAR) then go and agro him he will sig of judgement you then pull him to the middle where you won't agro anything (not where the lord was) but the middle of the 3way split in the trench, kill him then your done with that. Now you are rdy to get out, go towards deadmaw go as far up till you pop groups, wait for them to come to you SoH as far as you can towards deadmaw then run to where the lord was(be fast or you die) then deadly out and meet up with the group and help with tendrils.

tbh this is the easyest roll to do in doa it takes no skill whatsoever, i learned it in 1 conset and am now doing it fast. GL and HF

Silent Enemy

Silent Enemy

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Join Date: Apr 2009

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Glory_Blade View Post

tbh this is the easyest roll to do in doa it takes no skill whatsoever, i learned it in 1 conset and am now doing it fast. GL and HF ''Keyword'' being easy. why is it that youve spent the past 4 months trying to figure this out if its so easy then ? :P

i rest my case,
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Given your recent return from a lengthy ban,posts like this are hardly in your best interest if you want to retain posting privileges.

I'm sure Glory will read this post too therefore this also refers to you.

Behave yourselves(Calista)

Schnellburg

Schnellburg

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

America -5 GMT

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Actually we started a week ago. But thanks for jumping to conclusions. It is a fun little run to do, and a change from the standard tactics. Thanks for sharing.

Glory_Blade

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2009

im to pro to join [pRma]

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Silent Enemy View Post
''Keyword'' being easy. why is it that youve spent the past 4 months trying to figure this out if its so easy then ? :P

i rest my case,
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Given your recent return from a lengthy ban,posts like this are hardly in your best interest if you want to retain posting privileges.

I'm sure Glory will read this post too therefore this also refers to you.

Behave yourselves(Calista) Keyword there "1 conset".... now i got that out of the way....

ty calista i can read but do i choose to...... ty for my last ban i mean what did i do w/o GwG for that week.... ugg worst week of my life FOR SURE.

payne

payne

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

england (currently located on the south coast)

R/

nice build, shame my guild hasnt got into DoASC yet
have to try it once we get our website up and running - looks pretty fun similtaniously