AP discord supporter?
Barrage
Well I've been doing a lot of HM stuff with my friends and I was doing a mission with a fellow assassin and we decided to run a twin discord team. We were both running the same AP caller (the standard) and i saw the overlapping this created. So I was fiddling with some PvE skills and came up with a AP team supporter.
Assassin / Warrior
12 Deadly Arts 12 Tactics
Assassin's Promise
"You Move Like a Drawf!"
"You Are All Weaklings!"
Ebon Standard of Wisdom OR Courage
Shields Up!
Protector's Defense
OPTIONAL SLOT ( I honestly don't have a skill to put here, Shield Stance is an option if you have an spear/shield set you can switch to)
Resurrection Signet
Ok as for usage, this is of course used with a full party of discord using Necromancers. Since there are two AP Callers in your party(if you use it in the context i listed, I haven't attempted it without this second AP caller). I noticed that my necromancers did not stand up well to HM melee hits all that well. So I packed the Shields up and Protector's defense skills. Then the You are all weaklings skill to even further hamper their attacks. The wards are there for basic reasons, I personally use Wisdom to help with casting. Now Protector's defense Requires you to stand still, so cast up the ward of your choice and then use it when your necromancers are bunched up. So, when i used it, it worked fairly well. Was wondering what you all thought about ir.
Assassin / Warrior
12 Deadly Arts 12 Tactics
Assassin's Promise
"You Move Like a Drawf!"
"You Are All Weaklings!"
Ebon Standard of Wisdom OR Courage
Shields Up!
Protector's Defense
OPTIONAL SLOT ( I honestly don't have a skill to put here, Shield Stance is an option if you have an spear/shield set you can switch to)
Resurrection Signet
Ok as for usage, this is of course used with a full party of discord using Necromancers. Since there are two AP Callers in your party(if you use it in the context i listed, I haven't attempted it without this second AP caller). I noticed that my necromancers did not stand up well to HM melee hits all that well. So I packed the Shields up and Protector's defense skills. Then the You are all weaklings skill to even further hamper their attacks. The wards are there for basic reasons, I personally use Wisdom to help with casting. Now Protector's defense Requires you to stand still, so cast up the ward of your choice and then use it when your necromancers are bunched up. So, when i used it, it worked fairly well. Was wondering what you all thought about ir.
Fate Crusher
6 Discord heroes should be able to handle everything tht is thrown at them. maybe a little tweeking with your discord builds to suit the area can fix any problems.
whenever an friend and i do this sort of stuff, the "supporter" usually goes with party-wide skills for extra damage or healing. usually it would be /paragon for the heals and the bonus damage or condition spreading. that and /rit (so a human can organise the weapons skills, rather than the stupid AI).
but they can go /monk even and bring party wide healz if you think the area is too hard for the heroes.
whenever an friend and i do this sort of stuff, the "supporter" usually goes with party-wide skills for extra damage or healing. usually it would be /paragon for the heals and the bonus damage or condition spreading. that and /rit (so a human can organise the weapons skills, rather than the stupid AI).
but they can go /monk even and bring party wide healz if you think the area is too hard for the heroes.
Killamus
I usually go 15 deadly, 12 motivation, with Leader's zeal, ballad of restoration, aria of zeal, and "We Shall Return!", along with AP and your choice of PvE skills. Ballad of restoration heals quite a bit, especially when you're using it every 5-8 seconds.
MercenaryKnight
I don't know your hero builds but you should have most likely 2 copies of aegis and 2 protective spirits for hardmode. I like to bring a curser hero with enfeebling blood just cause it helps a lot.
Also one of your assassins (if you want to have an easier time no matter the hard mode area) could run a moebius/ db sin with save yourselves instead. The ap sin shouldn't really bother with the support skills since discord heroes only need 1 skill... discord.
Pack all the utilities on the heroes and bring pain inverter and another pve skill finish him.
I like to do ap, ymlad then cast pain inverter on a different target that does high damage (eles usually) and wait for the primed target to be spiked and repeat. Generally I can kill 2 enemies at once (or close to it) just by using pain inverter on a fresh target.
Also one of your assassins (if you want to have an easier time no matter the hard mode area) could run a moebius/ db sin with save yourselves instead. The ap sin shouldn't really bother with the support skills since discord heroes only need 1 skill... discord.
Pack all the utilities on the heroes and bring pain inverter and another pve skill finish him.
I like to do ap, ymlad then cast pain inverter on a different target that does high damage (eles usually) and wait for the primed target to be spiked and repeat. Generally I can kill 2 enemies at once (or close to it) just by using pain inverter on a fresh target.
Ginger Hunter
It looks ok and you should use whatever you think works. I like to to use the following on my sin when i run a discord caller:
AP
Necrosis
Finish Him
Ebon Vanguard Assasin
Enfeebling blood
Suffering
Rip enchantment
(optional)
12 deadly arts, 12 curses
I find it helps the heroes alot, because you are supplying the conditions and 1 more aoe hex. Rip enchant is pretty useful for removing any pesky enchants and supplies one more condition. Personally i dont like Ymlad, so i replaced it with necrosis for more spammability at a lower energy cost. I also replace pain inverter with ebon assasin, simply because i usually run discord with my friend and he carries pain inverter :P
AP
Necrosis
Finish Him
Ebon Vanguard Assasin
Enfeebling blood
Suffering
Rip enchantment
(optional)
12 deadly arts, 12 curses
I find it helps the heroes alot, because you are supplying the conditions and 1 more aoe hex. Rip enchant is pretty useful for removing any pesky enchants and supplies one more condition. Personally i dont like Ymlad, so i replaced it with necrosis for more spammability at a lower energy cost. I also replace pain inverter with ebon assasin, simply because i usually run discord with my friend and he carries pain inverter :P
Carnivorous Cupcake
Weaker than the conventional one. Weakness can be brought by Necros and +24 armor/40% chance to halve recharge time isnt really that important to lose knock lock and deepwound for.
Evasion Twenty
I use spear and extra conditions to help.
aga
remicks
Nerf Me Haha
In my opinion it isn't vital to run AP caller with discord, sometimes I run ms/db since it puts out huge damage and supply the condition (DW from golden fang), another build I love to run is for A/P:
"go for the eyes!"
vicious spear // vicious attack (can't remember it's name xD)
spear of lightning / disrupting throw
"i'm the strongest"
assassin's remedy
way of the master
"incoming!"(E)
sunspear rebirth sig
Very fun build to play, and realy speeds up for process with "incoming!"
Good luck, PM me ingame if you need more help // wanna try some HM stuff
Sin Punk
"go for the eyes!"
vicious spear // vicious attack (can't remember it's name xD)
spear of lightning / disrupting throw
"i'm the strongest"
assassin's remedy
way of the master
"incoming!"(E)
sunspear rebirth sig
Very fun build to play, and realy speeds up for process with "incoming!"
Good luck, PM me ingame if you need more help // wanna try some HM stuff
Sin Punk
Nitestride
I'm not ready yet to try these out, but I wanted to ask yet another n00b question just to make sure I understand the theory being used here:
An AP Discord build is used when the player is an Assassin/Paragon, and is using the 3-Necro Discord heroes and wishes to synergize with those heroes. I would have thought that this build has as it's purpose the inflicting and spreading of Conditions and/or Hexes, but it seems like the discussion here is focused on using the Para skills to heal and restore Energy rather than feed the Discord requirements.
Do I have that right?
An AP Discord build is used when the player is an Assassin/Paragon, and is using the 3-Necro Discord heroes and wishes to synergize with those heroes. I would have thought that this build has as it's purpose the inflicting and spreading of Conditions and/or Hexes, but it seems like the discussion here is focused on using the Para skills to heal and restore Energy rather than feed the Discord requirements.
Do I have that right?
Nitestride
Quote:
Originally Posted by Killamus
Quote: Originally Posted by Killamus I don't use the N/Rt versions of it Here it = a Discordway Necro build?
Also - thank you for the rest of the good information.