Magic: Limited to the Laws of Physics, or not?

draxynnic

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09 Aug 2009 at 13:23 - 41
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Originally Posted by GmrLeon View Post
Well, actually, I think it depends entirely on your perspective regarding certain theories. If you're into the Many Worlds approach, which suggests tons of universes that exist due to our choices or another way of looking at it would be, due to the existence of chance, as each decision has a chance of you saying yes or no and certain events are entirely dependent on chance in general..It could be possible that the pocket universe already existed, and it needed the right circumstances to manifest, i.e. Glint's child hatching, and both being targets for attack.
That's actually a different phenomenon altogether - parallel universes from the Many Worlds approach are really no more 'pocket' than any other. TARDIS-like squeezings of a large space inside a smaller space are the domain of general relativity.

Gmr Leon

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09 Aug 2009 at 17:33 - 42
Eh, true, but whenever applied to another, fantasy, world, it could be different. It is indicated in the Manuscripts that Tyria exists within a multiverse, after all.

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Originally Posted by The Manuscripts.
In the center of the Rift , deep inside the Mists, stands the imposing walled fortress known across the multiverse as the Hall of Heroes. This structure is the pinnacle of the afterlife.

Konig Des Todes

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09 Aug 2009 at 19:18 - 43
As I was trying to point out, I don't think it acts differently in this fantasy "world." As for the multiverse, there could be three meanings:

1) "Universe" and "world," along with "realm" are all interchangable, and that just means there are multiple worlds/realms out there. We know that world and realm are interchangeable, as there is a primary quest in Nightfall which calls Tyria a realm.

2) The multiple universes (or would it just be "verses" as uni means one...) are (uni)verses which have no particular similarities (basically, just (uni)verses existing side by side).

3) The multiple (uni)verses are copies of each other, only changing from, as Leon brought up, choices which stem different (uni)verses.

As is the case for reality, the third choice means (uni)verses are made by the second. This also means the Mists would be limitless. Space being limitless is understandable, but something being limitless is harder to grasp, which puts an uncertainty in that.

I personally think that, in this case, the "multiverse" would be the first case. I say this because, if I recall correctly, while what Leon quotes says "across the multiverse" it is said the Rift connects to the worlds. If worlds and realms were not interchangeable with universe, then it would say that the Rift connects to the (uni)verses, as that would be more true than worlds (though it would also connect to the worlds within the (uni)verses.

Gmr Leon

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09 Aug 2009 at 22:04 - 44
Another quote:

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Originally Posted by The Manuscripts.
This place is known as the Rift, and there is nothing to which it does not connect, nothing that cannot be reached from inside it.
In the paragraph it says nothing of worlds, just what I have quoted above.

Konig Des Todes

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10 Aug 2009 at 01:13 - 45
I didn't mean it says the Rift is connected to worlds in the Manuscripts. >_>

Gmr Leon

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10 Aug 2009 at 22:35 - 46
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Originally Posted by Konig Des Todes View Post
I say this because, if I recall correctly, while what Leon quotes says "across the multiverse" it is said the Rift connects to the worlds.
Then what were you getting at with this? I honestly can't think of any in-game references to the Rift, at all..It's a tad odd, actually, and yet, simultaneously, not.

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10 Aug 2009 at 23:02 - 47
what was I getting with that? Not the location of the quotation, but the wording of what was said. If it does somewhere say worlds, as I recall, then it would give a little (keyword: little) boost for the first possibility.