600 Ele ran me through SoO HM today <BUILD REVEALED>

MpG

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2009

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06 Aug 2009 at 01:47 - 1
Yes. When I joined the team I was really sceptical about an ele running this. I was actually going to leave the team, but the leader ensured me that the run is even faster then with 600/smite. Well, why not give it a shot - I thoght.
We enter the dungeon I noticed that the runner changed his Obsidian armor to a cheap one (not even 15k). After he cleared the first group fast (I also run this dungeon with my 600 and this was much faster) I was pretty shocked by the fact that this build wasnt even similar to Terra Tank. Using monk skills - what the ... ?
To my surprise the runner cleared the dungeon really quick ( can't tell exact time, but since I do this run with 600/smite I can tell this was much faster).
He didn't die even once.
He didint use consumables
He used monk skills to heal himself with the primary proffesion being Elemetalist


Now the good news is that we were allowed to follow him so I noted 7 skills he used. I will list them below. The team consisted of E/Mo, Smiter Mo/N and healer Mo/P with WoH elite.

Here are the skills I managed to write down:

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Ward of Stability
Shield of Abrorbtion
Spirit Bond
Protective Spirit
Obsidian Flesh
Glyph of Swiftness
Light of Deldrimor

I have tested it today with 15 armor but it didint work. I managed to kill one group. (been playing ele for 4 years now and it wasnt my fault). I tried different places. Still no results.



1. Any ideas on how to make this work ?
2. Got the skills, now If we can get this to work the whole SoO running will be revolutionized. The price of the run will drastically drop since eles will be able to run it. This can even lead to the price of BDS dropping , since Eles, Sins and Monks will be able to do the run now. Do you agree ?





Mason717

Mason717

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2008

Lion's Arch

Desolation Lords [DL]

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06 Aug 2009 at 02:57 - 2
I don't see how this can be faster considering obbi flesh makes you run 50% slower. I know he's just using it in battle, but he still has to wait for it to come off.

Songbringer

Songbringer

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

EastCoast

E/Me

06 Aug 2009 at 02:58 - 3
If I am not mistaken 600 ele has been around awhile. I have seen them run CoF. He is running Perma Obsi Flesh with 600 hp and using smites to kill. It just a modded 600 build. My guess on skill 8. Sliver to help speed killing up along with smites but I honestly don't know. I would have to go look at my ele's 600 build to get an idea. My question is why the 2nd monk. How many maintained enchants did he have on himself. If the 2nd monk was just to heal smiter then thats what people being run are for...

So many questions left unanswered here you really can't say revealed. If the person who was running this comes through here I would like to purchase a run at w/e the cost to see you do it succesfully.

Did he have degen? If not I am going to guess he had atleast mending on. As well as had balth spirit being maintained by one of the heroes. I would also guess his 8th skill was essence bond. I would also say he could have had watchful spirit succor..All those enchants would help him but having to take a 2nd hero for enchants would suck unless it really cut the time of run down.

Since my friend and I can average 40-45 min runs with our fastest being around 37-38 if it wasn't 10 minutes faster then that it wouldn't be worth it for me to lose the slot for a person to use ele varient. However, nice build for those without a monk.

Horace Slughorn

Horace Slughorn

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2008

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06 Aug 2009 at 06:03 - 4
A great option for people who cant get a monk half-way through gw:en

x sithis x

x sithis x

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2009

[Pro]

N/

06 Aug 2009 at 07:26 - 5
i have a feeling the blank was balt spirit

Chocobo1

Chocobo1

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

New Zealand

CoA

N/

06 Aug 2009 at 07:31 - 6
Nice find, not really build revealed because idk what the heroes are running, but still interesting. If it is sliver armor hes using, then interesting.

The forth fly

The forth fly

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

england

Mo/

06 Aug 2009 at 11:27 - 7
i got a run by a ele the other day the M/N is a normal smiter im not 100% sure of the M/P skills but 2 were para running shouts

superraptors

superraptors

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2008

W/

06 Aug 2009 at 12:53 - 8
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Originally Posted by x sithis x View Post
i have a feeling the blank was balt spirit cant be balthz, probably essence bond since he will he 1 source of energy short if taken balthz

Lord Sahem

Lord Sahem

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2008

Germany

Fear Friday [13th]

E/P

06 Aug 2009 at 13:30 - 9
Screen of a testrun with my ele, you can see all the skills of the 3 persons so I don't need to write them down :P

/edit: I was wearing a 15-armor

superraptors

superraptors

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2008

W/

06 Aug 2009 at 13:53 - 10
how long did it take? and could probably drop balthz spirit from your bar and give it to your 3rd hero

Lord Sahem

Lord Sahem

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2008

Germany

Fear Friday [13th]

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06 Aug 2009 at 13:59 - 11
Only considering /age it would have taken several hours, because I went to a friend while standing afk :P

Since I did this run on 4th of June, I don't remember that good how long it took me to finish this, and even if I could tell you, it would be slower than the usual 600/smite run, because I died like 20 times at the end to figure out how to survive :P

You could replace balth spirit with e.g. lod and give it to tahlkora - would actually be a good idea :P

/edit: Is it really necessary to flame MpG? I bet you wouldn't have known the build when someone asked you before my last post...
He just wanted to tell us there's a way to run SoO with an ele and asked how that can work, so if you have nothing productive to say just don't say anything and stay away from the thread -.-

srcroft3377

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2008

06 Aug 2009 at 22:43 - 12
I got a SoO run from an ele/m today that was using: ward of stability, mind bender, protective spirit, spirit bond , lod, glyph of swiftness, Obs flesh, and Essense bond. He had 2 heros m/n and m/p. The run was much faster then 600/smite and seemed to kill fendi faster too.

P.S. I agree with Lord Sahem, not everyone is as cool as you...nothing nice to say? Don't say it!

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

07 Aug 2009 at 03:32 - 13
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P.S. I agree with Lord Sahem, not everyone is as cool as you...nothing nice to say? Don't say it! This. Theres no need to be a prick just because you knew about a build the first second it came out and it takes a month before someone posts about it.

Posts like this will be deleted, both in this thread and in all others.

SimplyAmazing

SimplyAmazing

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

Cho's Estate

Agents Of Indecision

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07 Aug 2009 at 17:26 - 14
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Originally Posted by MpG View Post
The price of the run will drastically drop since eles will be able to run it. This can even lead to the price of BDS dropping , since Eles, Sins and Monks will be able to do the run now. Do you agree[/B] ?

No the price wont drop... Monks, Sins, Rits, Ele's have always been able to run it, it's just a basic 600 ele, they've been around for a long time... the Mo/P monk with WoH, is just for extra healing. I've run SoO on my rit and ele, a few times. If anything is faster than monk it would be rit because of VwK. I'm sure the ele was fast, i know because i use it. But it's not going to be faster than monk, and if it is, only a little. There has been people running this with Rits, Ele's, and I've even seen a necro. All of the spellcasting classes can 55/600. All you need is Low AL armor, Spirit Bond/Prot Spirit, all the basic Enchants, and If you cant throw, spell breaker/obsidian flesh on your bar, you put it on a hero. In fact, I prefer using my 600 Rit to run Ooze, Kathandrax, SoO, CoF, Rragars, and anything else that you 600, uw, etc. It's much much faster. Ele is good and works, but not very fast. VwK = Win.



It's nothing new, it's not going to lower the price of the run, or the price of the bds. It's still a fairly difficult run, only because of Fendi, and the BDS will still always be rare. The only thing that lower's price of runs, are Runners, they catch the CoF disease, Just like darkrime, Arachni's, Kathandrax.... the builds get posted on PvX wiki, everyone and their mother starts running it, and nobody can wait for Customers, so they start lowering the price of the run so they dont have to compete with other runners. If the price of BDS drops, it will be because of the fact that a lot of people are doing SoOSC's (speed clears) now.

pug_ster

pug_ster

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

I dunno

N/Me

07 Aug 2009 at 19:33 - 15
How do you use vwk? What skills do you use to protect yourself from spells?

Spiritz

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

DMFC

07 Aug 2009 at 19:45 - 16
sometimes a 2nd monk is used if a zone/dungeon has foes with skills like reversal of damage - that skill can kill a smite bonder as the dmg is also sent back to them.
Remember on a standard 600 tank ( regardless of profession ) the usual damage is done via the smite`s bondes - im surprised no1 has mentioned this.

@pug - vwk users when going 600 usually have either 1 or 2 monks - the team build is changed as the smite or extra monk will carry spellbreaker to cover the tank.

@mpg - the 600 has lowest armor possible as the tank needs to take as much damage as possible - compare the damage input of ar 15 to ar 60 and you`ll understand better - it also means more intake means holywrath and retribution returns almost 99% back to dealer.

SimplyAmazing

SimplyAmazing

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07 Aug 2009 at 19:56 - 17
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Originally Posted by pug_ster View Post
How do you use vwk? What skills do you use to protect yourself from spells? i've posted a detail guide on my rit build that i use on pvx wiki, although it's old an outdated. i've posted a detailed guide on the newest rit 600 build i use on these forums under "post your dungeon farming build".

Bof

Bof

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2009

SOHK

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09 Aug 2009 at 07:01 - 18
I would be amazed if this could finish the dungeon. It does not have great energy management like the 600 with storm chaser. I have a feeling that if anyone tried this and actually made it to fendi then the ranger spawns would destroy their energy.

Lord Sahem

Lord Sahem

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2008

Germany

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09 Aug 2009 at 08:37 - 19
Well they do - so you have to save shield of absorption until they spawn - your energy reaches 0 but you won't take any dmg until you have enough energy to protect yourself again

superraptors

superraptors

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Join Date: Dec 2008

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09 Aug 2009 at 08:47 - 20
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I would be amazed if this could finish the dungeon. It does not have great energy management like the 600 with storm chaser. I have a feeling that if anyone tried this and actually made it to fendi then the ranger spawns would destroy their energy. to begin with the 600 build does not need a ranger, the build with ranger is for less experienced or lazy people

if your better with timing you would run arcane echo instead and can charge an extra customer

Starmidder

Frost Gate Guardian

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09 Aug 2009 at 17:55 - 21
http://guildwarsguru.com/forum/showt...06#post4428106

Bof

Bof

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2009

SOHK

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10 Aug 2009 at 23:47 - 22
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Originally Posted by superraptors View Post
to begin with the 600 build does not need a ranger, the build with ranger is for less experienced or lazy people

if your better with timing you would run arcane echo instead and can charge an extra customer Yet the fastest time ever posted on this run was by a monk with ranger and smiter. It's like the Mo/D alternative build for this. I still think the energy management is going to be nasty at Fendi. Even if you do get enough energy back to cast another spirit bond to save yourself you will not build up enough energy to cast glyph of swiftness and obi flesh with only 1 person hitting you. I would much rather do this the safest way with just as much speed as the others.

kiddster

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

Ohio

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11 Aug 2009 at 13:47 - 23
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Originally Posted by Lord Sahem View Post
Screen of a testrun with my ele, you can see all the skills of the 3 persons so I don't need to write them down :P

/edit: I was wearing a 15-armor Looks like that was done in Normal mode. Not Hard mode like all the runners do it under.

Trader of Secrets

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

09 Sep 2009 at 19:56 - 24
actually it was done in HM if u just look around. but anyways i cant realli make out skill 1 of the hero smiter, wat is it?

Schnellburg

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09 Sep 2009 at 20:07 - 25
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Looks like that was done in Normal mode. Not Hard mode like all the runners do it under. LOL is all i have to say. Look at the Gold Helm all the way to the right on top of the skill bar. That means it was done in HM. Besides NM might be a bit tougher considering they aren't doing as much damage, or attacking as fast.

Lord Sahem

Lord Sahem

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2008

Germany

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10 Sep 2009 at 14:34 - 26
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Trader of Secrets

Jungle Guide

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19 Sep 2009 at 22:46 - 27
well tried it out, took me like 1:30. i never ran a dungeon or this one. had a few deaths and had to run around to light the things. works pretty well.