Candy cane pricing..

I've seen a number of people criticize the candy canes, saying that 1) you shouldn't be at a -60dp very often, if at all...and 2) using a candy cane is weak. I certainly admire that you're a good player who rarely dies, and want to play the game based solely on your own skill, but that hardly means everyone else has to. I don't do PvP, but I've read on here that they don't work there, so who cares if someone else wants to remove their dp while they're running around in an area playing PvE? Everyone plays this game differently. It's kind of like people who use a strategy guide and people who view that as "cheating." Or cheat codes. If someone wants to get through the game a little easier, what do you care? Play the game with the integrity you think it requires, and let everyone else do the same. If there's a market for candy canes, sell them! Help out the people who aren't as good as you. I'm a fairly casual player, and got where I am mostly because my husband groups with me for tough areas. (No, I don't ask him to "run" me...I do hate seeing level 3 at Marhan's Grotto) Sometimes I die, and I haven't used a candy cane yet, but I don't see a problem with doing so. I think the demand will go up as EVERYONE learns what candy canes do, but right now at least, the supply is still more than demand, so I think it will take a while.

It's called solo farming. With some spots you cant always afford to have 12 in a weapon skill. The lowest i've ever gone is 10 in sword/axe. So in those cases its true that the weapon (be it req 8,9, or 10) would do the same dmg which would be under 100%. The dmg bonus would still make sense, because its still more dmg than a clean one. As for as why I even care about the req 8......well I dont really, req 9-10 works just as well for farming. The point of me mentioning it was req 8 was 1)to show its not a crafter/collector item, 2)to show it has some value to it, lower reqs sell for more.

As far as you claiming I was "ripped off" I bought gargoyle skulls for 20g each. 20x250 = 5000g. So unless 5k is to much to pay for a req 8 15^50 longsword I think I got my moneys worth.

Back on topic
It Seems like candy canes arnt selling to well atm. But I still think they may become popular in a month or two, I have been doing FoW chest runs lately and it suprises me how many runners dont have any candy canes. So i'm thinking maybe the majority of the population didnt bother with hoarding them, which means candy canes could possibly become very popular if people ever start thinking they "need" candy canes.

True, I used to solo farm griffons with a sword warrior and relied mostly on poison and bleeding tricks, in which case a candy cane weapon would do. And for that matter, a candy cane weapon would work with illusinary weaponry too. But that's nowhere near as good as my earth elementalist who can drop three groups of griffons in under thirty seconds. Farmed the UW with a freind, him 55 monk, me pyro nuker, before the nerf. I do solo FoW chest runs... blah blah blah. I've been around since launch, traveled all over, had lots of fun, made lots of money, and more importantly, made friends. I saved the candy canes and the candy cane weapons fro them. I got my own skulls, transfered them into my own candy canes, and just plain like to get things myself. I don't buy items from other, though I'm not saying I will turn down a good deal, just like the sense of accomplishment from finding my own stuff. I've helped loads of people through many difficult spots, but I won't take a single second of help from them, ruins the challenge, and therefore the enjoyment. I replied that you got ripped of in the first place out of concern anyways, thought you might want to track down the guy who was trying to make a quick buck off of you.
But you know what , we can go back and forth like this forever. I know I really don't care anymore, and I doubt anyone else here does. We're just wasting space trying to prove our points. It's obvious we can both farm, both don't really need the candy canes ourselves, and differ on what is valuable.

On the topic of Candy Canes.

How many Candy canes do you think are floating around? I see people selling who will put their supply in the sales pitch. You know what I mean, Wts cc 500gp each 300 left! Do you think that there are maybe 300 per stockpiler online? Maybe lower, maybe higher? Will that effect future prices? If you sell 100 cc to someone, is that person planning on using them? Or are they stockpiling them themselves for a time when they think the price will go up. In which case supplies aren't actually dwindling, and we don't really have as much of a future market as we hoped. Which, in it's own way will be funny, becuase those who paid for the stock pile might be forced to break even. How many people paid for their stock? Looking at it now, was it worth it? I gathered my own because I knew I would want some for my guild when they travel for the first time though FoW (they've never been). But I stocked piled 1000 because I kinda liked collecting them, and the possibility that excess could be sold for profit, 100% of which is mine because there was no overhead. Prices will only go up when there is an actual demand that exceeds the supply. And when will that be? Most of us here won't use them because we are used to doing things ourselves, we have so far haven't we? No candy canes back before they nerfed Thunderhead and Hell's Precipice. Remeber that, lol. I miss the challenge. But my point is this new batch will be able to buy candy canes to remove dp, and you know what, I bet they get hooked on the ease. So, vets will not buy it, but green players will. And they will become our future buyers, but not at a good price until those with lower stocks burn through their stashes. Lol, did any of that make sense to anyone? I kinda rambled my thoughts out through my typing.

Not only that. Candy cane bow is the best option to finish off critters when touring the underworld as a trapper. With no points in markmanship, a 15-15 dmg bow with NO requirement is a) priceless and b) brings up the most enjoyable (because astonished) comments from your fellow PuG members

I use my Candy Cane Bow all the time when trapping, in GvG also, if I am devoid of energy.

I think it was a great little Wintersday addition.

just bought 191 CCs for 300gold a piece in LA today, this is great cnsidering that their usual sale price is 600g.

I just doubled the amount of gold i had in my inventory.

But i am not selling until they reach near the 1K or 1.2K mark.


4x profit....

I'd read on from post #37 on this thread:
http://guildwarsguru.com/forum/showt...t=98004&page=2
to see that the CC bow isn't all that helpful, even with no requirement

Not amazingly helpful, Echo, but every little helps. With the Marks 4 or 5, or whatever I have when I am trapping, I do more damage with the CCB than I do with the fleshcleaver I wield when trapping, or any other bow; therefore, IMO, it is the best weapon for trapping, in my experience.

Did it occur to anybody that this may be a purchasable(yes i can't spell... ) item in chapter 2?

This may be just a teaser from Anet for what's about to come. But I really doubt the chance of that happening as it ruins the point of DP...

I didn't read the posts from before... so please don't flame if this has been discussed already >.<

i love his reasoning.

i doubled my gold by spending it (it is gone from your inventory if you check)

and you are counting on it going to at least 1.2 k for four x profit

simple fact is you have to subtract the initial investment from the selling price to get the profit figure.

IF they go to 1.2k and you sell you have made 900 gold on each (3x) profit not (4x)

I'm seeing candy canes at 800 now. Does this seem like the level they will stop at too anyone else? I can't see me ever getting any more than that for them. I think that 700 seemed like the limit and 500 seemed reasonable. I want them to be high of course, but I just don't think they should get much higher... seems wrong somehow. And I have a question for everyone. How long does it take you to sell your candy canes, and how much do you tend to sell them for? Thanks. Also, what is the best place to sell them? ToA for ppl going into UW and FoW, or even doing villany quest? Maybe the Ascension trials? Or is it easier to sell in a bigger city like LA? Thanks again.
Oh, and thanks Moderator for taking care of the flame threads.

I don't see how they could get much higher. It seems to me, that's a lot to spend for eliminating dp once. Anyone who could drop 1k each time they want to, is someone who probably doesn't need it anyway. I imagine the people who might be able to spend that much would only want a handful for "emergencies" anyway. Like a mission they don't want to have to restart, or maybe a new character to help them along at times. I could be completely wrong though, watch them climb to 3k!

You know, this post just made me realize something. I hope they do go to 1k, becuase I want to sell them to all those E-bayers. That might be a good cash sink. Anyone who pays for gold rather than earn it is looking for an easy fix, right? Those are the types of players who would be looking for an easy way out of dp. I mean, in UW, FoW or SF, getting killed isn't all that bad, because you just hop back into a fight and remove it fast. But these people are used to getting something fast without effort. I bet you they are our future market. They'll buy their armor and weapons first, and afterwards, have trouble actually killing anything, then we swoop in with our stockpiles and take the gold away from them so they actually have to drop more money to cheat, or actually have to play the game like the rest of us.

But there you go, our market is the ppl who are used to easy street... E-bayers.

the person who is new to running who has multiple accounts with millions and prefers the CONVENIENCE of finishing a tough run at full health.
who by the way has so much gold they are LOOKING for some thing to spend it on.

to whom paying 10k EACH for 1000 is chump change they will never miss.

at the other end someone on a long hard missiom when everybody has DP and they see a full mob guaranteed to kill them weak as they are a 1k candy cane to party members is dirt cheap to salvage 2 hours work.

Is this you? Please tell me you played for that money. In anycase... I have 1000, wanna buy them for 10k each?

i wish

but there are people that rich..

i have 1100+ i collected on the off chance they might have value in 6 months or so and i carry a few with me but have not used one yet.

i am saving my gold for chapter 2 goodies for now.

special price to you of half price (5k) in lots of 250

as for the first question i have never used ebay (or others ) for anything.

i am a grindmonkey/explorer at heart

also a packrat with a lot of junk

i give away the best stuff as i cant use it and the merchant wont give me much

i would rather give it to someone who can use it than get a bit more gold

Wow, you're just like me. I hate sitting around and selling the stuff I inevitably pile up, so I tend to give it away too. Ok, ok, you drive a hard bargain, I'll give you all 1000 for 1k each.

I know, i knwo, you're right, still a big ass profit, and yes i did double it by spending it even if my inventory is empty because CCs at 600g fly fast

i am so glad i saved my CC's. i paid a runner 10 CC's to get me from rankor to warcamp to citadel and copperhammer. actually i only paid 8 CC's cause the runner kept dying at one point .

I dont see what the big deal is. I mean, I seen people selling hammers, swords, and any just about everything else under the Tyria sun, for 1000's. And doing so when the item has a stated value on it. I collected about 250 CC'c. I started out only going to collect a few, maybe 20 or so, but the fact that they stacked and only took up 1 inventory slot and that they were easy to get, well...... Now, I was hoping that I could get maybe 250g ea. for them. If I dont oh well, its not like I invested anything but time getting them. Some people say time is money, but if thats the case then are you not wasting money by looking at your computer screen at this very moment.

I didn't get very many, only about 30 or so, but I haven't needed to use any and don't really plan too. I liked them for the novelty. ^_^ I got all the Candy Cane Weapons for the same reason, simply because I think it was a cool idea and I wanted them. I missed out on the Santa hats though...Lame.

Well you are right on the profit part, but he is right about doubling his money. If you have 3k and buy 10 cc's for 300each, and sell them for 600 each. You now have 6k. Doubled your money. I think he meant to say his money quadrupled instead of profited if he can sell it for 1.2k each. Then he would be right.

I just talked to a guy in the game who was selling candy canes in droks. When asked if he was successful in selling any he replied yes. When asked about the prices he sells at, he replied 500-750 depending on how many someone is buying. I hope this helps.

I just wanted to point out one itty bitty little flaw. He has to actually sell them to see any kind of profit. I really hope you do actually double your money. But If you sit on them too long, and the price drops to 300, you've only broken even. And if they drop below that... you've lost a bit of money there. But I think you'll (the original poster) have no problem selling them anyways. Good luck.

Being that they are consumable items, I don't forsee a price drop for a while. People who can afford to invest in them are still buying them up at lower prices. So eventually, the majority of people selling them will be pushing higher prices...

can't use any of those in pvp

Canes are going for 400 each in bulk on Guru Auction.

I sold 100 Candy canes for 50k, twice. People are willing to pay 500 or more, ive seen them go for 1k on the first day the update ended!

Sold all at 1.2.

I've been selling off a bit of my stock. Sold for 500 each. Was able to sell a few at 700, but they go so much faster at 500. Was able to make 200k in about an hour, maybe an hour and a half.
I've been thinking about it, and I hope they do go up to a new standard in a month or two, that's why I'm holding on to about half my stock for now. But, I don't know that they will ever get too high because there has to be a limit as to their usefulness. If you buy one at 500, and it saves you from being booted from the UW, great. But if your return in profit from the run is low, then you won't be willing to cut so deep into your profit. So I beleive that we will find out soon what the upper limit to the price is.

HAHAHHAHA
Okay, when the new patch to undo wintersday happened. THEY DID go up to 1k each, and i sold 50 of them. i have 5 candy canes left. RIGHT N0W they are at 800-1k i think. Im holding up (my last 5 cc) so that they go for 2k or 3k in a few monthes. Anyway, I have 17 candy cane weapons and 6 ginger shields, 6 pepermint shields . I think im going to be rich!

Sadly, next celebration (Hopefully easter), they will release a new "CANDY CANE" like item, that removes dp. THis will cuase candy cane's prices to drop very much. Smart idea is to sell all your candy cane stocks before they drop.

Although to everyone who also or just invested there money into Candy cane weapons. Will have a bigger chance of getting lots of money out of that investment!

Ive made my share off of CC's... from 750-1k each... Had 150 now have 70 left... So im good, i keep the rest for myself.

I was about to write a letter in support of the cash sink nature of the Candy Canes... but then it hit me... they really aren't cash sinks.
My brain was following the path that said that since the ccs cost a lot, and are used up, that the ccs are a cash sink... removing excess gold from the game.
But then the obvious hit me... I have the gold... ppl gave me their gold for my ccs. I farmed skulls, got 1000 ccs, could have tripled that, it was so easy, but so very boring. I thought since it was so easy, they must have meant it as a cash sink.
A cash sink removes the gold from the game... like FoW armor. You pay for the materials. If you buy the ectos from a trader... cash sink... from a player... NOT a cash sink.
So thats when I started laughing. If they intend to have a cash sink... a true one... they really will make med kits or potions or something like that. It'll have to be exspensive... so that the excess gold will really start to disappear, but not too expensive, becuase they want people to actually buy them.
Look at what they did with keys. The key often turns out to be worth more than the item you get for it. There is proof that they are constantly working on ways to get rid of our gold... maybe this candy cane business is all research. Candy canes don't really change the game too much.
Now if they are really smart about the cash sink, they'll add mod and possibly green item traders. That would affect the last player controlled part of the economy. Once they can delete our gold there, they will finally have their equilibrium.