Returning and rusty player. I have a 9th lvl Necro/R. I would like a new secondary class to help get energy. I only own the first box so don't have access to the newer classes.
Any suggestions for getting energy are welcome --even if they involve specific items or quests. THX!
NECRO needs energy
feralone
Konker2020
As a Necro, you have all the energy management that you need.
Throw some points into Soul Reaping, you get 1 energy per rank in SR per death of anything close enough to trigger it, but it only triggers 3 times within 15 seconds. At level 9 you should have about as many points in SR as you would in whatever attribute you are using for damage.
Throw some points into Soul Reaping, you get 1 energy per rank in SR per death of anything close enough to trigger it, but it only triggers 3 times within 15 seconds. At level 9 you should have about as many points in SR as you would in whatever attribute you are using for damage.
MagmaRed
Depending on your playstyle and skill chioces there are a few options. At level 9, you won't have access to many skills unless they have been unlocked already. A few things to consider:
1) Radiant Insignias on your armor can provide an extra 8 energy
2) Runes of Attunement can provide +2 energy each
3) Weapons can boost energy, not sure what is available to you at level 9, but max weapons offer 10+5+5 for staffs, and 12+5 for a sword/focus (yes, casters do use sword/axe/spear at times)
4) SKILLS - these vary a lot by games and classes available. The ones most likely to be available and useful to you:
N/E for Glyph of Lesser Energy. Even at 0 Energy Storage it reduces 2 spells by 10 energy.
N/Me for Channeling, Power Drain, Inspired Hex, Inspired Enchantment, Drain Enchantment, Leech Signet, Energy Tap, etc. Inspiration Magic is designed mainly around energy management.
But as noted, as long as things are dying, Soul Reaping should be handling most of your energy needs. If not, you either need to put more points into Soul Reaping, or modify what skills you are using, and/or how you are using them.
1) Radiant Insignias on your armor can provide an extra 8 energy
2) Runes of Attunement can provide +2 energy each
3) Weapons can boost energy, not sure what is available to you at level 9, but max weapons offer 10+5+5 for staffs, and 12+5 for a sword/focus (yes, casters do use sword/axe/spear at times)
4) SKILLS - these vary a lot by games and classes available. The ones most likely to be available and useful to you:
N/E for Glyph of Lesser Energy. Even at 0 Energy Storage it reduces 2 spells by 10 energy.
N/Me for Channeling, Power Drain, Inspired Hex, Inspired Enchantment, Drain Enchantment, Leech Signet, Energy Tap, etc. Inspiration Magic is designed mainly around energy management.
But as noted, as long as things are dying, Soul Reaping should be handling most of your energy needs. If not, you either need to put more points into Soul Reaping, or modify what skills you are using, and/or how you are using them.
feralone
right now i get 2 energy back with each death and it doesn't seem like much. Guess i better slow down with the button mashing or rearrange those skill points. Hmm, or maybe buy a rune to improve it....
feralone
I just played this toon for about 8 hours yesterday. She was created when the game was first released so she had alot of skills which, for instance, my newly created toons did not have access to. I will check out ME and these radiant insignias and play around with SReap too. TY so much!
thepermasin
well as a necromancer, your mainly summoning minions, curses, blood magic... if you dont have good energy manegment from that, Mesmer has some good skills that give you energy, hence Energy Tap and some skills can interuput a foes spell and give you energy, Power Block. if you have any more questions, ask me ign
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Aeon221
A higher energy cap (more energy at the start) is not the same thing as energy management (more energy replaced). In almost all cases, you'd be better off with Survivors (which keep you alive) on your armor than Radiants (which add an unimpressive 8e to your total cap).
Necro spells are expensive, so you do need to pump up your soul reaping.
You can also use Animate Bone Minions to create little batteries, even at zero death magic. Popping them up costs you 15e for two of them. They absorb damage until they die, and when they do you trigger soul reaping for both of them. Minion armies work great for powering necros, as you generally create them when your energy needs are low (at or near the end of a fight) and they generally die when your energy needs are high (the middle of a fight).
There are also some great damage elites in Death and Soul Reaping that you can use with a build along those lines -- Discord, Icy Veins, Toxic Chill etc. And you can even go /mo or /rt and split some atts into healing, protection, restoration, or channeling to support your team with some great skills.
Necros just have oodles of energy. Once you understand how they work, you'll never run out.
Necro spells are expensive, so you do need to pump up your soul reaping.
You can also use Animate Bone Minions to create little batteries, even at zero death magic. Popping them up costs you 15e for two of them. They absorb damage until they die, and when they do you trigger soul reaping for both of them. Minion armies work great for powering necros, as you generally create them when your energy needs are low (at or near the end of a fight) and they generally die when your energy needs are high (the middle of a fight).
There are also some great damage elites in Death and Soul Reaping that you can use with a build along those lines -- Discord, Icy Veins, Toxic Chill etc. And you can even go /mo or /rt and split some atts into healing, protection, restoration, or channeling to support your team with some great skills.
Necros just have oodles of energy. Once you understand how they work, you'll never run out.
syphonus
At level 9 I wouldn't even worry about it. Once you have bigger numbers in soul reaping you shouldn't have any problems; necs have the most unbalanced energy management in the game.
waeland
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Originally Posted by feralone
I have a 9th lvl Necro/R. I would like a new secondary class to help get energy.
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2) If you really needs energy management from secondary class use elementalist and Glyph_of_Lesser_Energy.
dilan155
put points into soul reaping and then dont spend the rest of the points on like 3 different other attributes. Necros are known to have one of the best way of gaining energy in PvE, also like already pointed out, higher energy isnt the same as great e-management, the first is worse in a way because you have to wait for it to fill up, the latter is better.
Glints Bane
First it sounds like you might be using some high energy cost skills which isn't unnatural for a necro. But i would say don't worry to much about energy until you get all attribute points and max armor. then start buying insignias and runes to help that out. I generally have about three radiant insignias (head, arms, feet) and two survivor insignias (Chest and legs.) I dont wear radiant runes and dont have any trouble with my energy. the reason for this is that I have points in soul reaping. As long as you kill stuff energy shouldn't be a prob.
x sithis x
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Originally Posted by syphonus
; necs have the most unbalanced energy management in the game.
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monk have 24 divine skills
warriors have 38 str skills
sins have 18 crit skills
mes only has 9 fc skills
eles gave 12 es skills
paras have 23 leadership skills
rits have 23 spawning skills
dervs have 22 Mysticism skills
ranger have 19 Expertise skills
so i mean necros lack of skills makes up for how good it is so i say people stop flaming about an over powered attribute
& to OP just put some attribute points in soul reaping
works every time lol
majikmajikmajik
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Originally Posted by syphonus
At level 9 I wouldn't even worry about it. Once you have bigger numbers in soul reaping you shouldn't have any problems; necs have the most unbalanced energy management in the game.
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You dont have all your skill points yet so what good is more ene gunna be? you can get up over 50 ene with your base 20ene, ene for armor, then +10-20 on a staff depending on stats.
Rushin Roulette
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Originally Posted by Aeon221
A higher energy cap (more energy at the start) is not the same thing as energy management (more energy replaced).
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Any other class and your advice would be true, but not for a necro.
If you still have trouble and are still running out of energy, then you can always take Signet of lost Souls for a quick (easily met) conditional Heal and energy regen.
waeland
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Originally Posted by Rushin Roulette
If you still have trouble and are still running out of energy, then you can always take Signet of lost Souls for a quick (easily met) conditional Heal and energy regen.
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Bob Slydell
For a while when my Prophecies Necro was lower level I used a wand obtained from a guy outside of Gates of Kryta. The wand in question was the "Truncheon" you see as the 2nd item: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Camryn_Jamison
That lasted me all the way to the Crystal Desert. I know its -1 Energy Regen but I never had energy problems using it.
That lasted me all the way to the Crystal Desert. I know its -1 Energy Regen but I never had energy problems using it.
zwei2stein
You can make N/E and use Glyph of Lesser energy, which is well viable in covering your needs and requires no att points, just stop using it when you hit around level ~15, after that you can afford enough point in soul reaping to make it obsolete.
Do not get lured to investing to high energy insignia/runes, it is well wasted gold for you at your current level and you are much better served with health runes/insignia. Higher energy cap will not help you when you get running low on energy, better energy regen will.
First, necromancer should not bet running anywhere close to those theoretical 16 SR.
Seccond, if you start wasting your energy by overspilling cap, you are not really using your skills so much that they demand high energy returns and can as well lower SR and raise some other lines.
Do not get lured to investing to high energy insignia/runes, it is well wasted gold for you at your current level and you are much better served with health runes/insignia. Higher energy cap will not help you when you get running low on energy, better energy regen will.
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Originally Posted by Rushin Roulette
Actually, for a Necro a higher energy cap is better energy management (as long as you dont use a high energy set to manage this). The necro Soul Reaping bonus is so unbalanced that if you had a low energy pool, then you would be wasting the SR triggers and you would only be getting 20 energy till your bar is full instead of a possible 48 energy at 16 Soul Reaping attribute points.
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Seccond, if you start wasting your energy by overspilling cap, you are not really using your skills so much that they demand high energy returns and can as well lower SR and raise some other lines.
Rushin Roulette
If you have a bar comprising of only Curses Skills for a Curser, or only Death Magic skills for a MM, then you might as well invest anything left over into SR which would still max to 12 points. Add a minor Soul Reaping Rune and you will be getting 13 energy per kill which is still 39 energy every 15 seconds.
The 16 SR attribute was actually only meant as an example for what is possible. Ive not found an area where Ive really been too low on energy for more than a few seconds at a time without a bunch of E-Denial Mesmers or special area effects (Mursaat Towers for example are annoying if you stand in their effect for more than 3 or 4 casts).
The 16 SR attribute was actually only meant as an example for what is possible. Ive not found an area where Ive really been too low on energy for more than a few seconds at a time without a bunch of E-Denial Mesmers or special area effects (Mursaat Towers for example are annoying if you stand in their effect for more than 3 or 4 casts).
Marvollo Gaunt
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Originally Posted by feralone
Returning and rusty player. I have a 9th lvl Necro/R. I would like a new secondary class to help get energy. I only own the first box so don't have access to the newer classes.
Any suggestions for getting energy are welcome --even if they involve specific items or quests. THX! |
b. Try to find a high(er) energy off-hand/wand. or runes/inscriptions.
zwei2stein
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Originally Posted by Rushin Roulette
If you have a bar comprising of only Curses Skills for a Curser, or only Death Magic skills for a MM, then you might as well invest anything left over into SR which would still max to 12 points. Add a minor Soul Reaping Rune and you will be getting 13 energy per kill which is still 39 energy every 15 seconds.
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pamelf
Signet of Lost Souls and high Soul Reaping attributes is the best energy management you can have as a necro. You really shouldn't need much else.
Arghore
Since the answers are allready given: ak, Soul Reaping, Insignas, Runes, Weapons (staff, wand, focus with e bonus) ...
I would advice (as a lvl9) to try and stick with Soul Reaping and either blood/ curses/ death (spreading out will only make you weaker) ... Also, make sure you dont use Superior Runes and perhaps only 1major rune (for either blood/ curses/ death) ... with the correct head gear you can get a +1+2/+1 or a +1+1 / +2 in those attributes...
Then make sure you dont put all radiant/attunement on the rest of your armor, might be great to have tons of energy, but its not going to help you when you are flat on the floor
... ak. die all the time because your HP are very low...
I would advice (as a lvl9) to try and stick with Soul Reaping and either blood/ curses/ death (spreading out will only make you weaker) ... Also, make sure you dont use Superior Runes and perhaps only 1major rune (for either blood/ curses/ death) ... with the correct head gear you can get a +1+2/+1 or a +1+1 / +2 in those attributes...
Then make sure you dont put all radiant/attunement on the rest of your armor, might be great to have tons of energy, but its not going to help you when you are flat on the floor
... ak. die all the time because your HP are very low...
feralone
Wow. I can't believe how active and helpful this forum is! TY all for helping me with my totally newb question. I have invested more points and runes in Sreaping and this has helped alot. I also gained access to more skills (and 10th lvl) which has also helped. I *was* using higher energy skills for damage because that is all i had access to. Now, I have a couple new skills that really help with damage and cost less. I like the minion battery idea but i'm not focusing on minions -- skill is too slow and minions don't last very long so it makes me VERY impatient with whole process, lol.
I don't understand alot of what y'all have said, but i'll refer back in a week or two and see if i can understand it then=)
I started an ELE/M to see what benefits they might offer...and kinda fell in love with Ele...O.o Luckily i have lots of time right now as i'm unemployed...
I don't understand alot of what y'all have said, but i'll refer back in a week or two and see if i can understand it then=)
I started an ELE/M to see what benefits they might offer...and kinda fell in love with Ele...O.o Luckily i have lots of time right now as i'm unemployed...