[pRma] FoW Splitway - Technically Challenging,

Silent Enemy

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Here we are again after a few weeks we return with more goodies for the Speed hungry community

we at [pRma] Proudly present: the FoW challenge

This is not for Inexperienced teams. as our policy in any elite area is: clean spike or /resign - we dont rely on healers to back us up. wich many may have seen in our last Teambuild found here: http://guildwarsguru.com/forum/showt...php?t=10391522

*The Currently best time We have Acchieved using this Teambuild is 15 minutes. screenshot can be found here: http://img7.hostingpics.net/pics/257213gw531.jpg

Anyways. Enough Chit Chat - Lets get on with it shall we ?

The T1



The T2



The Forge Tank



The Forge Rit



The Forge Manly



The Forest Tank



The Forest Rit



The Forest manly


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*The Build Requires Expert Pulling.
*The Build Requires On-Point Spikes
*The Build is NOT Pug Friendly,
*The Build works around yet ANOHTER 3way split.

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All Credit for Team tactics. Splits and Builds goes to:
Manek Loves Manek, Zozio Ownz You, Kiriyama Specter, Ly Xang Yiu, and Tenshi Parabola

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i think Finish him is better for T2

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how did u make ur interface look like that?

Bristlebane

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That's nice I guess.
But making team builds relying on a number of godmode Perma SFs to pull it off is not impressive.

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i know u use texmod for ur UI
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Originally Posted by Bristlebane View Post
That's nice I guess.
But making team builds relying on a number of godmode Perma SFs to pull it off is not impressive. As i clearly Stated this is not for the average team. im not posting this for the average speed clear community to try. this is a challenge to the guilds focussed primaryly on challenges and Speed Clears,

So - back on Topic

Athrun Feya

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Zodka and I are in the process of making a 4T build - well its been made, routes were drawn up a week ago, just needs to be tested.

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Zodka and I are in the process of making a 4T build - well its been made, routes were drawn up a week ago, just needs to be tested. cant wait to see what you crazed [agro] folks have cooked up now

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Doesn't look too complicated actually.


I'm gonna PuG it and see how unpuggable it is hehe. ^^

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Another option for this method is using an SF Nuke Team, which has the capabilities to split at forge.

Currently [THCS] has a record of this using a 3 perma system (t1,t2, and forest clearer). The group has been recorded to be finish at 14 minutes, so we are currently working on that.

Screenshot is on our forums at http://guildwars-thcs.com/forum/index.php?topic=495.0
@ Carnivorous Cupcake: Good luck, pugs can't spike for thier lives

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Originally Posted by king_trouble View Post
Another option for this method is using an SF Nuke Team, which has the capabilities to split at forge.

Currently [THCS] has a record of this using a 3 perma system (t1,t2, and forest clearer). The group has been recorded to be finish at 14 minutes, so we are currently working on that.

Screenshot is on our forums at
http://guildwars-thcs.com/forum/index.php?topic=495.0
@ Carnivorous Cupcake: Good luck, pugs can't spike for thier lives If you actually opened your eyes you would see that screenshot says 15mins, second off, we do split. we split even before forge. and theird off. we dont need to nuke were manly enough - well post a 12-13 minute screenshot within hte week, the 15 mins. was because forest team was slow. and forest tank died,

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sf eles look more fun then your boring ass same old 100 blades spike everyone uses now :P

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sf eles look more fun then your boring ass same old 100 blades spike everyone uses now :P if you look closer. its far from the same. we dont use MoP [mark of Pain], neither do we use a monk, alot more challenging. AND fun

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hmm splinter barrage rits 100 blades wars that doesnt look very new to me but ok i still say the eles is more impressive for a 15 min run

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Yeah, this reminds me of when CoP was still a viable option, we dropped the monk during runs if we had a good group that knew how to spike. Also SF eles/mes/necs can also split like CoP used to if that is what your refering too

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the way we use it - is rather new. and i can tell ya right now. by the time the E nuke team split at forge ? were halfway done with forest. and our forge is allready done, as a wise man once said - It's all in the split's

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Why would you splitso late at forge, it so much easier to split at tower and have on group clear the way while the other work on rastigan. Also by the time the group gets to forest it's already done

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we split after the first pull :P

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So is griffons happening while the rest of the team is still in forge?

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So is griffons happening while the rest of the team is still in forge? forge is userally done by /age 7, so we help out with griffons,

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Do this without SF, then come see me.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Silent Enemy View Post
forge is userally done by /age 7, so we help out with griffons,
I'm interested to see your tactics to get to forge and do it. I believe my best out of forge was a 9. When exactly does everything split and what is killed? I'm guessing forge team skips the tower pull, the little group after tower, and the entire battlefield pull?

Also, in the couple runs ive done with a t3, everything except the shepards were killed by about 8-10 minutes(can't remember exactly). When the MT arrived, the shepards were balled and the wars just ran in and spiked, then proceeded to do griffons. Is the forest and the run overall that much faster than that? I'm fairly sure our Mt had a bit of trouble at some point which lead to about 12 out of forge(we've only run this twice).

Quote: Originally Posted by fenix View Post
Do this without SF, then come see me. Stop trolling. Everyone knows PvE is broken, which is why the goal is speed and not completion.

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lets be clear about one thing - people who wants to disguss sf ? take it to the sf argument thread found HERE: http://guildwarsguru.com/forum/showt...php?t=10393302

- im sick of input from the WRONG people. these builds we at [pRma] are posting. are for the speed hungry community. who enjoys sf. if your not amongst them. /be gone

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Originally Posted by Life Bringing View Post
I'm interested to see your tactics to get to forge and do it. I believe my best out of forge was a 9. When exactly does everything split and what is killed? I'm guessing forge team skips the tower pull, the little group after tower, and the entire battlefield pull?

Also, in the couple runs ive done with a t3, everything except the shepards were killed by about 8-10 minutes(can't remember exactly). When the MT arrived, the shepards were balled and the wars just ran in and spiked, then proceeded to do griffons. Is the forest and the run overall that much faster than that? I'm fairly sure our Mt had a bit of trouble at some point which lead to about 12 out of forge(we've only run this twice).



Stop trolling. Everyone knows PvE is broken, which is why the goal is speed and not completion.
we stopped using the terms MT and T3. because we split the team in two, its now forge tank. and forest tank,

forge team splits off as soon as second pull is dead, (at tower), and forest tank has allready split off at the beginning to do plains pull,

* everything is done simutainiously.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Silent Enemy View Post
by the time the E nuke team split at forge ? were halfway done with forest. and our forge is allready done, as a wise man once said - It's all in the split's hmm they posted 15 min run you posted 15 min run its the same time how are you gonna say yours is faster/better :P

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hmm they posted 15 min run you posted 15 min run its the same time how are you gonna say yours is faster/better :P Very true. 15 mins is 15 mins regardless of tactics and builds. Good idea though, we have been running something similar in our alliance, but we do it for fun and sit around 20ish mins or less.

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When i run FoWSC with my m8's i prefer to just take:
MT: A/me with daggz/deepwound move/epidemic
T3: a/me clears forest.

works quiet well and its very very easy.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Silent Enemy View Post
the way we use it - is rather new. and i can tell ya right now. by the time the E nuke team split at forge ? were halfway done with forest. and our forge is allready done, as a wise man once said - It's all in the split's How could you say it's faster if you haven't seen the alternatives? As a wise man once said "FASTER IS BETTER"

13 Min Full Run - Current Record by THCx
There's a little challenge for you, look forward to seeing that 12 - 13 min screenshot you spoke of.
http://guildwars-thcs.com/forum/inde...66.0;topicseen

The video can be found here in high quality:
http://www.guildwars-thcs.com/fowsc-13min.htm

ZiRk

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Hey Mallyx [icU]

13 min FoW record was set by icU phew months ago.

here is the screen: http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/6333/gw748.jpg

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ZiRk View Post
13 min FoW record was set by icU phew months ago.

here is the screen:
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/6333/gw748.jpg Sorry I don't think that record is valid anymore, since Cryway has been nerfed since then.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ZiRk View Post
13 min FoW record was set by icU phew months ago.

here is the screen:
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/6333/gw748.jpg THCS holds the current POST nerf fowsc record, it would have been alot easier for us with the 100 armour ignoring damage COP used to give.

Id love too see a 13 min screen after the nerf

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Quote:
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THCS holds the current POST nerf fowsc record, it would have been alot easier for us with the 100 armour ignoring damage COP used to give.

Id love too see a 13 min screen after the nerf 2 me/mo isnt about CoP, but fast cast so dont tell me it was a cryway teambuild, because it wasn't. the main dmg dealers were the 2 rits. so i guess the record is 13 min by icU and not THCS...

1 more thing THCS, try to do ur 13 mins without 3495786976729089078567 cons...

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and sinway can prolly hit below 13 minutes with an experienced guild. it's new though so time will tell.

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Can we post this on guru? It's quite an accomplishment for the guild You're so pro.

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Quote:
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2 me/mo isnt about CoP, but fast cast so dont tell me it was a cryway teambuild, because it wasn't. the main dmg dealers were the 2 rits. so i guess the record is 13 min by icU and not THCS...

1 more thing THCS, try to do ur 13 mins without 3495786976729089078567 cons... What difference does it make? When you've made enough money what else are you going to spend it on other than buffs that you can afford, items and armor you probably already have.

So should there be 2 records? Cons and No-cons? You guys make me laugh. The 7 minute UW record used more cons than us and on top of that they used powerstones every couple mins. Guess what? It's still the record.

That other 13 minute record by icu is respectable but as mentioned, it is no longer valid because we matched it post-nerf after several tries with different team builds. I'm sure we could go faster as well, not to mention our terras were A/E not E/A...

Unlike most people who are spoonfed by PvX we come up with our own builds and willing to share and welcome any to add input, etc. or compete.

I'm sure we could beat 13 as well and if it makes you guys feel any better maybe we'll do it without any personal cons for the whiners lol.

Sinway could possibly beat 13 mins, we have our own variation of that too and we share the builds, videos, etc.

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Well, i'd just like to say congratulations to THCS on their fow record. Very impressive, and in quite an innovative way as well. This has turned somewhat into a epeen fest, so i thought i might drop off our fow screens. While the time is not below 13, i have yet to see a 15 without a t3. We've been working on exactly what we want our t3 to do, and you should be hearing from [GS] in the future on fow times
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/pv...WSC_15_min.jpg

Katsuya

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For those who think using candy is cheating:

Anet dispatches items and consumables for all players to use and enjoy as they see fit. If, for instance, somebody was to use a candy apple to keep themselves alive at the last second, is that cheating? Or did they deserve to just die?

Well, no, they deserved to live. So it's a valid use. If you were running away from aggro and used a cupcake to survive, then yes, use it to your advantage. Consumables are there for everybody to use, no matter what the reason.

I don't seem to recall teams not accepting people because they use cons. People are either bitter because they can't afford to buy these consumables, or else are just grasping in the dark for some petty excuse.

So, if the candy is cheating then so is armor of salvation, essence and grail. Because they aren't needed, but people prefer to use them.

If by all means these guilds complaining about such petty nonsense, then I welcome them to use as much as the other guilds do and best their time that way. oh, you don't need them, you say? Then stop yapping about those who do. It's valid and those who say its not have obviously been QQ to themselves too long to see properly.

So let's stop picking needles out of haystacks.

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Well, i'd just like to say congratulations to THCS on their fow record. Very impressive, and in quite an innovative way as well. This has turned somewhat into a epeen fest, so i thought i might drop off our fow screens. While the time is not below 13, i have yet to see a 15 without a t3. We've been working on exactly what we want our t3 to do, and you should be hearing from [GS] in the future on fow times
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/pv...WSC_15_min.jpg Very nice, you didnt black out any names.