Powered Skills sollution

Roupe

Roupe

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

IN PVE
Have the Elite skills & some others be "spent" for the entire account x days after skill bar selection, the chosen skill bar lasts as long as the player doesn't return to a town/outpost/mission. A spent skill cant be reselected until its cooldown has ended.

This will force players to create different builds with different skills, or play less. Farmers can only "abuse" their farm combination as long as they don't return to an outpost.

Razon

Razon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2008

Mo/

Are you serious?

HellScreamS

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2009

wouldn't you like to know?

^yea KFC just subscribed to me for 1 year^

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I wish I would get what you meant -_-

Xenomortis

Xenomortis

Tea Powered

Join Date: May 2008

UK

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roupe View Post
IN PVE
Have the Elite skills & some others be "spent" for the entire account x days after skill bar selection, the chosen skill bar lasts as long as the player doesn't return to a town/outpost/mission. A spent skill cant be reselected until its cooldown has ended.
No. Just, no.
I do not want to be forced out of a build that I may be testing in various areas.
I do not want restrictions on what and how I play.
I do not want these stupid, destructive ideas to go any further.

Xsiriss

Xsiriss

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2008

This is as bad as,if not worse than the idea of having to pay for the skills...Seriously they're skills not cons and the only problem from SF is UWSC,ergo leave the skill alone and do something to UW.

silavor

silavor

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

Canada

Keepers Of Twilight

Quote:
Originally Posted by Roupe View Post
Farmers can only "abuse" their farm combination as long as they don't return to an outpost.
You do realize this means farmers get ONE run, then, right? We return to an outpost after all our farmable monsters die, unless we're killing something like the vaettirs.

/not signed. Ever.

mathiastemplar

mathiastemplar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2008

Denmark

Jade Reapers [JD]

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Just stupid.. no need to punish anyone for abusing OP'd skills.
You have less fun when others farm/have more money/abuse skills more than you?
I hope not.

BrettM

BrettM

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2008

Fuzzy Physics Institute

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roupe View Post
IThis will force players to create different builds with different skills, or play less. Farmers can only "abuse" their farm combination as long as they don't return to an outpost.
And what happens to people who aren't farming?

Say you screw up a mission and get returned to outpost. Then you have to pick a new elite and rebuild to retry the mission? How is that going to work for newer players, who may not even have more than one elite yet? Even for a Legendary Skill Hunter, there are only a handful of elites in each line, many of which are worthless, so they would quickly run out of elites when doing multiple missions in the course of "X" days. (Z-quests, for example.)

What about people exploring in a new campaign, moving through explorables and adding new outposts to their map? Rebuild each time you enter a new outpost? And each time you enter an outpost to pick up a quest reward and get the next quest in a chain? Ridiculous!

Are you SO fixated on how some people are farming that you can't spare two seconds to think about the players who are doing other things?

Definitely /notsigned

Targren

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

Primeval Warlords[wuw]

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Wow. If you hate the game that much that you would destroy the entire build system concept (one of the greatest things about guild wars), just friggin' QUIT the goddamn game already. We're better off without you.

/notsigned

Roupe

Roupe

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

I'm actually a bit sarcastic.

No I dont hate the game, but I dislike the increasing horde of lazy zombie players that are spamming/begging everywhere. Thank God for turn off chats and ignore options.

Yes, one wouldn't want to fail a mission- In the event that this suggestion would ever be realized. Yes it would make the game much more difficult and tedious.

But the pay off would be a significant reduction to all these spam that skills are overpowered. End of spam that farmers or runners are degrading the game. Spam about paying others to speed accomplishments -people would probably increase this.

Guild wars are much more than the a set of skills & has a whole lot more to offer below the surface.

Xenomortis

Xenomortis

Tea Powered

Join Date: May 2008

UK

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roupe View Post
But the pay off would be a significant reduction to all these spam that skills are overpowered. End of spam that farmers or runners are degrading the game. Spam about paying others to speed accomplishments -people would probably increase this.
At the cost of game murder.

Examine closely what you are suggesting. The backlash would be huge and Guild Wars and A Net would suffer greatly for it.

gremlin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

GWAR

Me/Mo

I really don't see a logical reason for this so not signed.

Whatever others do in the game is pretty much up to them and doesn't bother me in the least.

nanase ren

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by Roupe View Post
IN PVE
Have the Elite skills & some others be "spent" for the entire account x days after skill bar selection, the chosen skill bar lasts as long as the player doesn't return to a town/outpost/mission. A spent skill cant be reselected until its cooldown has ended.

This will force players to create different builds with different skills, or play less. Farmers can only "abuse" their farm combination as long as they don't return to an outpost.
I got an idea for u you can only use your keyboard buttons once a week so they wont be over used. You woouldnt enjoy that would u? after 1 day u cant play or get so pissed off u would rage quit.
So yeah your idea stinks to the max to be fair u should /uninstall Guildwars Now and leave the thread before more Hunt u down.

Btw after u wrote that messages i dout u can replay ya used ya keys to many times to type so cant wait for ya reply next week Tard

ImDReaperslash

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2009

This is what's going to happen:
"I'm so tired of WoW, I want to play another MMORPG"
"Wow, what's GW? It's cheap and looks good, let's try it"
*Buys Prophecies*
*Wait for 4 hours until all updates are installed*
"Kewl, lets play a Ranger. what's this? this quest says I should go back to Ashford but I can't use any of my skills??"
"Screw this, gw sucks, I'm gonna try Maple Story"
"Wow, hopping mushrooms - it's like a dream come true"
*Gets addicted and dedicates all his life and money for a pixel hair change*

Stop "suggesting" things without thinking them over.

dilan155

dilan155

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2007

living room

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this is one of the worst ideas ive heard in a very very long time, do you realize what this would to new people who don't have a hundred different skills. also this would force you into using elites and skills that are absolutely useless and/or doesn't work for the situation at all. Im sure there are poeple who play GW for so long that they might exhaust all of their skills in that particular profession, im not one of them i hardly play. There isnt a huge farming problems, only a couple of problem area namely UW with its UWSC, if you add additional counter measures in to the UW that would solve a lot of things.

Aldric

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

[IG]

R/

This idea is so ridiculously bad that i'm going to assume its a troll since no-one with half a brain could think that through and consider it a good idea.

not only is it /notsigned but its so retarded i wish it was /notread

nanase ren

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2009

ya know wat i think if he hates the skills like they are he should make his own private server and PLAY BY YOUR SELF instead of screwing people over

TheManowar

TheManowar

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2009

Italy

II REVOLUTION II

W/Mo

I think that the best way it's even the most obvious: the old, good nerfing; nerf the combination so good players won't see no more perma-sin steal their place in a group.

FengShuiDove

FengShuiDove

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheManowar View Post
I think that the best way it's even the most obvious: the old, good nerfing; nerf the combination so good players won't see no more perma-sin steal their place in a group.
Get out of here with the same tired old "omg faer the perma-sin" crap. Believe it or not, it doesn't need to be brought up in every single thread. I know right? Revolutionary.

The problem with this idea is that there will ALWAYS be more potent/powerful skills for certain areas or PvE in general. Spiteful Spirit, for example, is one of the most universally useful skills in the game. Nobody really calls it broken now, do they? And yet you're forbidding use and forcing another Curses elite which would be VASTLY inferior for general gameplay.

Unique builds are fun for people who know how to create synergized, functional builds. But have ya ever been in a PUG? Unique builds are not always necessarily functional or fun to play. Most of the time, they're flat out stupid. At some point, even good players would be forced into using these ridiculous, hobbled together builds.

And that's not fun at all.

/notsigned

TheManowar

TheManowar

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2009

Italy

II REVOLUTION II

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by FengShuiDove View Post
The problem with this idea is that there will ALWAYS be more potent/powerful skills for certain areas or PvE in general. Spiteful Spirit, for example, is one of the most universally useful skills in the game. Nobody really calls it broken now, do they? And yet you're forbidding use and forcing another Curses elite which would be VASTLY inferior for general gameplay.
Ok, I'll accept this, but then don't whine about "perma-sins and SF are evidently destroying the game", if you say there will be always builds overpowered for PVE, then there's no solution, so stop crying and accept the reality. My opinion is simply that if really anet would decide to resolve the situation, the simplest way would be nerf the combination, and that's all. Or do you prefer the rising of some ideas like the one this thread is about?
P.s.: it's seems to me that the main problem right now is SF, not SS, on which I have nothing against

reaper with no name

reaper with no name

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2009

FaZ

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Ok, then, what is my dervish supposed to do, then? There's only a handful of builds for him that don't completely suck, so under this suggestion I'd pretty much be forced to suck most of the time.

But even worse than that would be the problems for the paragons. They only have one really good build. What are they gonna do, huh?

Instead of enforcing balance, all this would do is create more imbalance, only the more versatile classes (such as the necromancer) would become the overpowered ones.

Reverend Dr

Reverend Dr

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Super Fans Of Gaile [ban]

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There are tons of dervish builds that "don't completely suck." But as you seem adamant upon believing is that if something is not at the tip top of perfect efficiency then it sucks, by your definition every single class only has a handful of builds that don't suck.

But the OP's idea is downright terrible. Guild Wars doesn't need some new and fancy system for balance, the balancing just needs to be in the hands of people that really do understand the game well.

Master Ketsu

Master Ketsu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

middle of nowhere

Krazy Guild With Krazy People [KrZy]

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Different day

Different variation

Same terribad "HURR DURR LETS LIMIT OVERPOWERED SKILL USAGE WITH SOME SHITTY TIME SYSTEM DERP DERP" idea

/unsigned.

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

So basically your solution to preventing abuse of overpowered skills is to simply block people from using them EVERY TIME THEY GO OUT?

Definately the worst solution to this problem, possibly the worst suggestion to come up in a long while.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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You mean have skills have uses, so you are forced to use other skills? O_o...

Targren

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

Primeval Warlords[wuw]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by MithranArkanere View Post
You mean have skills have uses, so you are forced to use other skills? O_o...
My favorite has to be tying skills to consumable items. Like it's not plainly obvious they got that stupid idea from WoW (Flash Powder anyone? Even WoW realized how stupid that idea was...)

Ugh

Ugh

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2009

R/

What would my ranger do after I run out of Barrage or BHA?

BrettM

BrettM

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2008

Fuzzy Physics Institute

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ugh View Post
What would my ranger do after I run out of Barrage or BHA?
Enraged Lunge. Or switch secondaries, pick up a spear, and start going through the para elites.

Coverticus

Coverticus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Zodiac Elites [TZE]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ugh View Post
What would my ranger do after I run out of Barrage or BHA?
An interesting way of exploring those little used secondary elites as BrettM has mentioned.

Would also make pugging a scream - enter group, ping your healing bar. Cue "WTF dude, why do you have Signet of Spirits in your bar for????". Reply "I has no choice "

/notsigned

dilan155

dilan155

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2007

living room

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Terra Jim View Post
An interesting way of exploring those little used secondary elites as BrettM has mentioned.

Would also make pugging a scream - enter group, ping your healing bar. Cue "WTF dude, why do you have Signet of Spirits in your bar for????". Reply "I has no choice "

/notsigned
lol that would be hilarious.

Reverend Dr

Reverend Dr

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Super Fans Of Gaile [ban]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ugh View Post
What would my ranger do after I run out of Barrage or BHA?
Use an elite worth bringing?