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Brutal Mauling

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MisterB
MisterB
Furnace Stoker
• #2
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Since this is an attack skill, some Paragon Shouts and Chants that affect "allies", but not "party members", can be triggered.
Other pets can't do that.
Pets are bad.
zelgadissan
zelgadissan
Forge Runner
• #3
From the page of the black bear:
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The attack skill that the Black Bear uses is slower than a normal pet attack, causing the Black Bear to have a lower damage per second than other pets (including the Polar Bear). However, it can also trigger effects that requires an attack skill to be used, like some Paragon skills provide.
Personally I don't think it's worth it, but it's at least something to consider.
Evasion Twenty
Evasion Twenty
Lion's Arch Merchant
• #4
Doesn't it lower it's DPS, if you have no shouts or anything? Personally, it should be removed.

Don't discriminate pets!
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Bob Slydell
Forge Runner
• #5
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Originally Posted by Evasion Twenty View Post
What purpose does it do?

http://www.wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Brutal_Mauling

All it does is make the bear have LESS dps imho, because of the 4-second activation, and does no extra damage.
I think wrong wikipage is wrong TBH... doesn't the bear have a 4 second delay in attacks naturally? So it cancels it out, me and some friends actually had a debate about this during school back when gw was popular still and a friend wanted to tame a bear in pre, i dunno.. do whatever.

Though.. bears were introduced in prophecies in 2005 (duh) when paragon shouts weren't a though for another year and a half basically. I wonder if anet had plans for paragon based shouts or chants in the original game or something. Why else would the bear just use a plain skill?
BrettM
BrettM
Desert Nomad
• #6
Recall that Brutal Mauling will interrupt Charm Animal, making it difficult to charm a black bear in Pre-Searing. My guess is that the skill was designed for just that purpose. IIRC, black bears don't use that skill in Post when they are charmed.
nkuvu
nkuvu
Lion's Arch Merchant
• #7
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Originally Posted by BrettM View Post
Recall that Brutal Mauling will interrupt Charm Animal, making it difficult to charm a black bear in Pre-Searing. My guess is that the skill was designed for just that purpose. IIRC, black bears don't use that skill in Post when they are charmed.
You're thinking of Breaking Charm.
Stc95
Stc95
Frost Gate Guardian
• #8
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Originally Posted by BrettM View Post
Recall that Brutal Mauling will interrupt Charm Animal, making it difficult to charm a black bear in Pre-Searing. My guess is that the skill was designed for just that purpose. IIRC, black bears don't use that skill in Post when they are charmed.
Brutal Mauling doesn't interrupt Charm Animal, Breaking Charm does, and only bears in Pre-Searing have it. Brutal Mauling is only for buffs that effect an attack skill. Mostly Paragon shouts like Anthem of Flame/Weariness.
Ugh
Ugh
Krytan Explorer
• #9
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Originally Posted by Chrisworld View Post
doesn't the bear have a 4 second delay in attacks naturally?
Pets attacks once every 2 seconds.
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Originally Posted by Some guy on wiki
You guys are free to believe me or not but I remember that in the betas of GW the bear was the only pet to inflict BLEEDING and it was likely caused by this attack. For some obscure reason they removed this from him (overall pet balance i guess). I'm affraid I have no screen-shots of this but I thought it would relieve those of you who can't sleep at night wondering what this does/may have done.
Credible? ^
MrGuildBoi
MrGuildBoi
Desert Nomad
• #10
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Originally Posted by wiki
According to the German in game description, it is a "Beastly attack that will make target bleed for 5 seconds". However, that previous description is erroneous since Brutal Mauling doesn't cause Bleeding and is a standard attack.
from unofficial wiki
snaek
snaek
Forge Runner
• #11
it was probably just another one of those "we had an idea in mind but were too lazy to implement it or completely remove it so we just left it as is".
Evasion Twenty
Evasion Twenty
Lion's Arch Merchant
• #12
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Originally Posted by snaek View Post
it was probably just another one of those "we had an idea in mind but were too lazy to implement it or completely remove it so we just left it as is".
Thanks for describing update snaek


They should really take care of their messes.
notskorn
notskorn
Lion's Arch Merchant
• #13
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Originally Posted by Evasion Twenty View Post
Thanks for describing update snaek


They should really take care of their messes.
Why? Its not a big deal and it doesn't really affect the game at all
BrettM
BrettM
Desert Nomad
• #14
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Originally Posted by nkuvu View Post
You're thinking of Breaking Charm.
D'oh. My bad.
MagmaRed
MagmaRed
Furnace Stoker
• #15
Not only does it work with the various shouts/chants, but it can also cause monsters to use interrupt skills like Cry of Frustration. If they use the interrupts on the pet, it leaves you and your team safe from them. Again, not reliable, and not useful for most situations, but it is another thing the skill can do.
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imnotyourmother
Desert Nomad
• #16
WOW is this why people want to charm a bear. It takes forever with a new person cause they simply do not know what "run in the other direction" means so the bear can not use break charm and you get your bear.

This is very hard now. Never was like this before.

So if you put the pre bear into the menagerie then what bear do you get back?