Has it changed at all? I forget what they said before anyways...
I have a macro for SF that I can toggle to loop forever. So I could ideally leave my PC for days and come back and my sin would still be maintaining SF. Is this a questionable practice?
ANet's stance on macros?
BLOODGOAT
Targren
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Originally Posted by BLOODGOAT
Has it changed at all? I forget what they said before anyways...
I have a macro for SF that I can toggle to loop forever. So I could ideally leave my PC for days and come back and my sin would still be maintaining SF. Is this a questionable practice? |
Dawn Angelheart
If it gives you an advantage over other players, its bannable i think.
Farcry Deathblade
i hope they change their policy for guild wars 2...i've been playing WoW for the past year (dropped it because it became too much of a grind after naxx) and I admit I've become a bit of a macro-kiddie!
Link6590
Good thing GW is generally anti-grind 
And if a wow debate comes up
WoW PvE > GW PvE
GW PvE > Wow PvE
Now i must leave if it escalates...
Only mods (UI edits) are the only 3rd party things allowed to directly influence the game.
And if a wow debate comes up
WoW PvE > GW PvE
GW PvE > Wow PvE
Now i must leave if it escalates...
Only mods (UI edits) are the only 3rd party things allowed to directly influence the game.
Evasion Twenty
Yes, it doesnt make u better or worse, just mods the look of the game, that only affects you.
However it cannot be supported if anything gets broken
However it cannot be supported if anything gets broken
Bob Slydell
Basically, the macros that are allowed are ones that help you while you play at the computer. The macros that are not allowed are the ones that let you automate what your character does while you are away from the comp (at work, school or whatever your doing while not at the PC)
drunk n angry
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Basically, the macros that are allowed are ones that help you while you play at the computer. The macros that are not allowed are the ones that let you automate what your character does while you are away from the comp (at work, school or whatever your doing while not at the PC)
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BLOODGOAT
I'm not saying I'm going to leave the computer while my toon spams SF just for show. It's mainly a perfect-timing setup for the off-chance I happen to forget to renew. My statement was just an embellishment to emphasize what my macro really can do.
Marty Silverblade
I'd stop using this if I were you. Having a 3rd party program that can use skills for you (even 'I just forgot to renew') gives you an unfair advantage against other players. Besides, what's next? Eventually, if this is allowed, people are going to keep pushing the boundaries on what is acceptable, and arguments/qqing will begin.
BLOODGOAT
If maintaining SF during absence of mind is an unfair advantage then I'm inclined to believe binding a hotkeys to quick-select party members and cast Prot Spirit on them is also an unfair advantage, as anything else would be.
This is too blurry.
This is too blurry.
Yol
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with this in mind it makes me question putting my account to "offline" and going to work while i'm deathleveling (would that be thought of as botting?)
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Yang Whirlwind
Basically you should refrain from doing anything that can be interpreted as botting. The scripts they run to monitor the servers cannot tell the difference between a keyboard macro and a bot program.
The official view seems to be that if you click like clockwork you are not doing it by yourself and need to have your account banned!
The official view seems to be that if you click like clockwork you are not doing it by yourself and need to have your account banned!
Bob Slydell
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with this in mind it makes me question putting my account to "offline" and going to work while i'm deathleveling (would that be thought of as botting?) lol but yes macros if caught using will get your account banned whether it is a perma ban or temp is up to the anet team.
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careyt
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If maintaining SF during absence of mind is an unfair advantage then I'm inclined to believe binding a hotkeys to quick-select party members and cast Prot Spirit on them is also an unfair advantage, as anything else would be.
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Darcy
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Originally Posted by Farcry Deathblade
i hope they change their policy for guild wars 2...i've been playing WoW for the past year (dropped it because it became too much of a grind after naxx) and I admit I've become a bit of a macro-kiddie!
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jray14
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If it plays when you're not at the computer, it's bannable. Nothing questionable about it.
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Darcy
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Originally Posted by jray14
What if you use a macro just to maintain SF but do all the other stuff yourself while at the computer?
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jray14
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Originally Posted by Darcy
Bannable! Anet makes no exceptions about macros. If you can leave your keyboard and the character's actions will continue without your presence, you are in violation of the rules.
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I'm thinking the relevant part of the EULA is this, under item 7:
"The Game(s) is designed for official play only as offered through the Service by NC Interactive at the Web Site and not through any other means. You further agree not to access, create or provide any other means through which Game(s) may be played by others, as through server emulators. You agree not to use any hardware or software, including but not limited to third party tools, or any other method of support which may in any way influence or advantage your use of the Service which is not authorized by NC Interactive, including but not limited to the use of 'bots' and/or any other method by which the Service may be played automatically without human input."
On one hand there's the "without human input," so that "along with human input" would seemingly be okay. Then again, there's "influence or advantage" and the classic "including but not limited to" phrase that could potentially make anything not-okay. Oh legaleze, gotta love it.
Marverick
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I don't think they will change their policy. The ArenaNet mindset is fixed on a level playing field for all. That is a large part of what made GW such a success (besides the FTP). Macros give one player the advantage over someone not using macros. Once you allow one such macro, where do you draw the line.
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Notorious Bob
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If it plays when you're not at the computer, it's bannable. Nothing questionable about it.
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Anet have repeatedly stated that there is absolutely nothing wrong with using keyboard macros (one's that simply mimic keypresses) - i.e. if you have a timed macro for the drunkard title pursuit.
Heck, ANet even gave away a Logitec G15 gaming keyboard (with macro capability up the wazoooo!) away as a GW prize a while ago.
And this same question was asked and answered then to!
BLOODGOAT
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Bannable! Anet makes no exceptions about macros. If you can leave your keyboard and the character's actions will continue without your presence, you are in violation of the rules.
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See? Very blurry, yes?
Yang Whirlwind
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Actually this is not really true.
Anet have repeatedly stated that there is absolutely nothing wrong with using keyboard macros (one's that simply mimic keypresses) - i.e. if you have a timed macro for the drunkard title pursuit. Heck, ANet even gave away a Logitec G15 gaming keyboard (with macro capability up the wazoooo!) away as a GW prize a while ago. And this same question was asked and answered then to! |
When he explained that he had simply been using macros to support, the official response was that it did not matter - it was still not allowed.
I have even seen the actual wording he received from support regarding this matter.
Do not use macros under any circumstances - or you risk having your account banned!
hattara
Here's a discussion of macros from Gaile's wikipages. Does that clear anything up?
tadevil
Lol, why would you need a macro to keep SF up? Badplayersarebad. Why don't we all make macro's for our entire builds so all we have to do is have a caller and everyone else T-space to the next foe, don't be so god damn lazy the game's easy enough as it is.
Not only that but you can just leave it to macro and go AFK, let's say you finish your role in UWSC and have to take a dump, don't worry the macro will keep you alive. Against the rules, yes? Not everyone can stay alive with SF while AFK and taking a dump now can they I see that as an advantage.
On another note; some forms of macro are allowed, as far as I'm aware only while deathleveling are they allowed, everyone gets disconnected every now and then, aNet told me there's nothing wrong with using an auto to reconnect you while in deathlevel but that's as far as it goes.
I was told you're also allowed to have a macro for spamming frenzy so you die quicker but I don't believe that to be true, that would be an advantage although one everyone can use. Never the less unacceptable in my opinion.
Not only that but you can just leave it to macro and go AFK, let's say you finish your role in UWSC and have to take a dump, don't worry the macro will keep you alive. Against the rules, yes? Not everyone can stay alive with SF while AFK and taking a dump now can they I see that as an advantage.
On another note; some forms of macro are allowed, as far as I'm aware only while deathleveling are they allowed, everyone gets disconnected every now and then, aNet told me there's nothing wrong with using an auto to reconnect you while in deathlevel but that's as far as it goes.
I was told you're also allowed to have a macro for spamming frenzy so you die quicker but I don't believe that to be true, that would be an advantage although one everyone can use. Never the less unacceptable in my opinion.
Snograt
It's still a grey area after all these years. Basically, macros are bad but some are badder than others.
I think it's a case of each case being judged on its merits. There are no black and white rules.
I think it's a case of each case being judged on its merits. There are no black and white rules.
imnotyourmother
don't do it.. + you will get DC'd after 24 hours. Ban is the op word.. ban ban ban