Looking for monitor above 19"

Nereyda Shoaal

Nereyda Shoaal

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Deldrimor Warcamp

Mo/W

So... I'm looking around for a new monitor which appears to be mission impossible
Wide screens are absolute "no-no" and I'm trying to avoid them at any cost since they are nothing compared to old 4:3. However the market for 4:3 over 19"... basically doesn't exist? There are few 21" Eizos on the market but the cost is like omg
Is there something wrong with 19"+ 4:3 flat screens or am I looking at wrong resellers?

Abedeus

Abedeus

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Niflheim

R/

Why do you hate widescreens? You see more, have bigger HUDs and you can watch movies easier without those big black bars.

KZaske

KZaske

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Boise Idaho

Druids Of Old (DOO)

R/Mo

I love wide screen and have been using them over almost three years. There are a few old games that don't support them but there is a web site (isn't there always?) that can help with that. http://www.widescreengamingforum.com....php/Main_Page
Back to your question, looking at Pricewatch (http://www.pricewatch.com/monitors/) I see some 4:3 monitors over 19 inches. Are you looking to just go down the the local store and buy it?

Quaker

Quaker

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Aug 2005

Canada

Brothers Disgruntled

The market for non-widescreen monitors has vaporized. Why would you not want a widescreen anyway? Anything that you do that you prefer to do in a 4:3 aspect ratio can still be done on a 16:9 ratio with space left over on the sides.
Just go for a widescreen that has the same overall screen height as a 19" 4:3 ratio.

The original 4:3 ratio just came about because computer monitors originally used the same CRTs and electronics as TVs, which are 4:3. There is no special benefit to a 4:3 ratio. It's time for you to join the 21st century where even the TVs are 16:9 now.

headlesshobbs

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

Seems everyone misses the point. Widescreen = stretched image. Some software or images don't get the fair 4:3 treatment and it becomes uncomfortable for some people to deal with. There are normal ratio lcd's out there but it's pretty hard to pick up any yet you can check places like best buy (they usually have a display area) or go to ebay, craig's list or newegg. Also if you know a shop that sells computer parts and hardware, ask the people if they have anything, sometimes they might be able to order one.

Personally, I don't like what this does to the wallpapers I kept over the years.

Quaker

Quaker

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Aug 2005

Canada

Brothers Disgruntled

Quote:
Originally Posted by headlesshobbs View Post
Seems everyone misses the point. Widescreen = stretched image. Some software or images don't get the fair 4:3 treatment and it becomes uncomfortable for some people to deal with. There are normal ratio lcd's ......
Personally, I don't like what this does to the wallpapers I kept over the years.
Widescreen does not = stretched image. Where did you ever get that idea. I don't see any stretched images.
The only software that might have problems would be some old games that play full screen and don't have widescreen resolutions. They'd have to be very old - even Half-Life supports widescreen.
Any software that runs in a window is not going to be stretched.
About the only thing that might be stretched would be your old wallpapers. Get new wallpapers, or set them to "centered" or edit them with any graphic editor to add bars or crop them.

16:9 is now "normal ratio" - 4:3 is last century's "normal"

Elder III

Elder III

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2007

Ohio

I Will Never Join Your Guild (NTY)

R/

Also, some of the games that did not have wide screen support in the last few years added it in the first patch (Rainbow Six Vegas for example) - I can't think of very many games in the last 5 years that don't have wide screen support.

KZaske

KZaske

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Boise Idaho

Druids Of Old (DOO)

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by headlesshobbs View Post
Seems everyone misses the point. Widescreen = stretched image. Some software or images don't get the fair 4:3 treatment and it becomes uncomfortable for some people to deal with. There are normal ratio lcd's out there but it's pretty hard to pick up any yet you can check places like best buy (they usually have a display area) or go to ebay, craig's list or newegg. Also if you know a shop that sells computer parts and hardware, ask the people if they have anything, sometimes they might be able to order one.

Personally, I don't like what this does to the wallpapers I kept over the years.
If you would be so kind as to check out the site I previously mentioned you will find that almost every game since 2003 supports wide screens in some way. As for wallpapers, You can always edit them for 16:9. Personally, I don't like using wallpapers. Desktop icons on top of wallpaper normally equals nasty eye sores (shutters).

Blackhearted

Blackhearted

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

Ohio, usa

none

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by headlesshobbs View Post
Seems everyone misses the point. Widescreen = stretched image.
There's something you should know about modern widescreen LCD monitors that noone has mentioned yet. Most of them, or most of them that aren't poor, very low end models atleast, usually have a form of something called Aspect Ratio Control. Which, to put it simply, takes that 4:3 image of a game or other fullscreen software that doesn't support widescreen and keeps it from being stretched. The method the monitor uses may vary, but they all get the same result. A proper 4:3 image when you absolutely need it.

Crazystars

Crazystars

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2009

the only thing that I dont like about my Samsung is that some of the settings on my monitor are locked, like contrast, and I cant really see my posts highlighted as yellow when on top of the white background. Do you know of a way to force it through software?

Quaker

Quaker

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Aug 2005

Canada

Brothers Disgruntled

Without knowing the exact model of Samsung, I don't know what say. I've never had a monitor, Samsung or otherwise, where the you couldn't adjust the settings. There are some that "lock" the settings so they can't be accidentally changed, but there's always a way to unlock them, somewhere in the menus.
RTFM.

Chasing Squirrels

Chasing Squirrels

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2008

Hey guys I got a question about cleaning lcd screens. What do you use to clean your lcd without damaging it? Also it would be cool if it could be household stuff.