PvP/PvE Skill Toggle Button
grafinvonwandernd
Since the addition of all the PvP versions of skills it makes it hard to set up a skill set for PvE in one's guild hall. I do not PvP often, and I use my guild hall for a quiet place to set up my PvE skills. When I go out to PvE my skills can some times be much different than what they were in the guild hall. Same as when a person who does PvP is sitting in Kamadan trying to sell their items, and they would like to work on their PvP skills while waiting. I would like to see a toggle switch to change between PvP and PvE skills in the guild hall and other outposts much like there is a toggle switch for going from Normal Mode to Hard Mode. Even perhaps having the PvE only skills crossed out like in the PvP outposts if you choose the PvP version of skills. This would be great to avoid confusion.
headlesshobbs
Having to jump between posts just to check which skills are pvp/pve is rather excessive and totally unnecessary. This is something they should have done before the system was put in place.
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Marty Silverblade
I suppose it could be useful but I think it would be only an insignificant amount. /notsigned.
MrGuildBoi
TBH, just know your skills not that hard to remember. It only takes a second to do skills in an outpost too.
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/notsigned, not needed.
Owik Gall
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Although this is unlikely. :/
Although this is unlikely. :/
grafvonwandernd
Personally, I do not feel like memorizing the 1235 skills which can be used in both PvE and PvP, especially when many of those are split between PvE and PvP variants. I like the idea because it would allow me to work on either PvE or PvP builds efficiently regardless of where I am (guild hall, PvE outpost, or PvP outpost).
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Dawn Angelheart
I dont actually think you have to remember that many skills that are split into pvp/pve.
If having it in pvp in the gh is a problem, and you dont Pvp much(and you dont want to remember 1225 skills), then just remember the Pve skill version of said pve/pvp skills, then when you read the pvp versions you will auto know the "real" or pve skill discription.
If having it in pvp in the gh is a problem, and you dont Pvp much(and you dont want to remember 1225 skills), then just remember the Pve skill version of said pve/pvp skills, then when you read the pvp versions you will auto know the "real" or pve skill discription.
Reverend Dr
The PvE split versions of skills are just flat out more powerful than the PvP versions, so I really don't understand how someone can get confused when setting a bar for one version even when the skill description may be from the other side of the split.
grafinvonwandernd
Many of the PvP version of PvE skills are completely different, like Signet of Creation. They aren't just different in how much damage they do.
grafvonwandernd
Personally, I am just not a fan of the inconsistency of how the skills are switched between PvE and PvP versions. Take a ritualist for example who has many PvP variants of skills. In addition with these, fairly common skills which a spirit spammer would use are vampirism and summon spirits, both of which are PvE only. If a ritualist goes to Heroes' Ascent, their skills change to PvP skills and the PvE only skills get a little lock icon over them. However, if this character goes to a guild hall, their skills change to the PvP variants, but the PvE only skills do not get the lock icon. Rather inconsistent in my opinion. If the PvE only skills are not going to be locked out in the guild hall, the other skills should not switch to PvP versions. I would just like it where you can choose if your skill bar is PvE or PvP in an instance such as this. It is already partially implemented with the Isle of the Nameless in that you can enter this explorable area with a PvE or PvP skill bar. However one cannot change their skills around in the Isle of the Nameless as it is an explorable area and not a town, an outpost, nor a guild hall.
Puebert
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Originally Posted by Reverend Dr
The PvE split versions of skills are just flat out more powerful than the PvP versions, so I really don't understand how someone can get confused when setting a bar for one version even when the skill description may be from the other side of the split.
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Skills that are totally different in PvP than PvE are not good for new players.
MrGuildBoi
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Originally Posted by Puebert
I would agree with this if not for skills like UA, Signet of Creation, We Shall Return, Aegis, Armor of Unfeeling, etc.
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Reverend Dr
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Originally Posted by Puebert
I would agree with this if not for skills like UA, Signet of Creation, We Shall Return, Aegis, Armor of Unfeeling, etc.
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spirit of defeat
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Originally Posted by MrGuildBoi
TBH, just know your skills not that hard to remember. It only takes a second to do skills in an outpost too.
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If you really remember all that shit your have to much time....
On topic
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gameshoes3003
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I'm always bothered by this as well.
I'm always bothered by this as well.
grafinvonwandernd
Now we need something for having Heroes in the guild hall. Believe it or not anet, the guild hall is used for more than just GvG. Perhaps have your heroes available once you hit the PvE toggle.
Zahr Dalsk
Herp derp, the occasional GvG player is more important than ANY PvE player! Cause hurrdurr esports!
Bugger that. ArenaNet, GW is meant to be a game. Treat it as such, and cater to the gamers here, not the GvG users. We're where your income is going to come from for GW2; you would do well not to alienate us.
Bugger that. ArenaNet, GW is meant to be a game. Treat it as such, and cater to the gamers here, not the GvG users. We're where your income is going to come from for GW2; you would do well not to alienate us.
Premium Unleaded
They've already alienated a large portion of the PvP community, so don't get your hopes up.
Zahr Dalsk
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Originally Posted by Premium Unleaded
They've already alienated a large portion of the PvP community, so don't get your hopes up.
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Personally, when I want PvP, I'll play an RTS or FPS. You know, genres that involve actual skill and thinking. I play GW for nice, relaxing PvE gameplay.
Akaraxle
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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk
Herp derp, the occasional GvG player is more important than ANY PvE player! Cause hurrdurr esports!
Bugger that. ArenaNet, GW is meant to be a game. Treat it as such, and cater to the gamers here, not the GvG users. We're where your income is going to come from for GW2; you would do well not to alienate us. |
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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk
I really don't care what they do to the PvP community, so long as the core player base (of which I am part) is treated well. As it has been, with things such as Zaishen Quests, but this latest update is something of a step backwards. It speaks of the days when PvP balance interfered with PvE and ArenaNet was still treating GW as a primarily PvP game.
Personally, when I want PvP, I'll play an RTS or FPS. You know, genres that involve actual skill and thinking. I play GW for nice, relaxing PvE gameplay. |
If you played before, you're an imbecile and should be flamed by just about every troll in existence.
JR
If you are setting up your bar to PvE, then why not do so in a PvE outpost? I don't really buy the 'it's quieter' argument, just turn of all chat or zone to a less populated district to begin with.
Eragon Zarroc
not important enough to be worried about.
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Zahr Dalsk
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Originally Posted by JR
If you are setting up your bar to PvE, then why not do so in a PvE outpost? I don't really buy the 'it's quieter' argument, just turn of all chat or zone to a less populated district to begin with.
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I shouldn't have to suddenly abandon it all and go to some other outpost, AND have to change district as well. I should be able to tap G, press the Guild Hall button, and be right there in my PvE guild hall.
grafinvonwandernd
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Originally Posted by JR
If you are setting up your bar to PvE, then why not do so in a PvE outpost? I don't really buy the 'it's quieter' argument, just turn of all chat or zone to a less populated district to begin with.
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Mort Mythoryk
wouldn't be that difficult, and it something they should have implemented.
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Akaraxle
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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk
Because I spent lots of ingame gold buying and upgrading a Guild Hall.
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Also, if you earned so much gold that means you played a lot, and if you still don't know what the hell your skills do after all this time you should consider playing something less mentally challenging, like throw-the-stick.
That said, I wish that at this point guilds could be made either PvE or PvP. It's obvious nowadays' PvErs are complete carebears and don't wish to try - let alone be touched by, heavens forbid - anything PvP related.
~ Dan ~
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Should be an easy, obvious no brainer feature to implement.
Should be an easy, obvious no brainer feature to implement.
Silent Hunter Xx
Would be nice to have but i cant see it happening
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Short
Waste of devs time, you can always switch to a PvE outpost and overall you should know your skills tbh.