Protective Bond/Essense Bond

Pony Slaystation

Pony Slaystation

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2008

Cardboard Box

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I was bored today, and while goofing around, I had a (not so great) idea. I thought that I could have 3 monk heroes, each with 14 protection prayers, using Protective Bond and Essence Bond on me. Protective Bond, at 14 protection prayers, drains 3 energy per hit. Since they are all maintaining it, they each should lose 1 energy each time I am hit. I thought I would be able to counter that by having each of them maintain Essence Bond on me, which would give them 1 energy each time I get hit, balancing it out. I tried going into Tombs, just for fun, and I was surprised that they still lost energy whenever I was hit by an attack. I was taking damage, so Essence Bond should have been triggered. My question is, when multiple people are maintaining Essence Bond, is the energy gain divided amongst them?
Example - 2 people are maintaining Essence Bond... would each person only gain 1 energy every 2 hits?

Winston

Winston

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

Melbourne, Australia

You can only have a particular bond on you once.

MisterB

MisterB

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy

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Originally Posted by Pony Slaystation View Post
My question is, when multiple people are maintaining Essence Bond, is the energy gain divided amongst them?
No. Each caster gains energy when their target takes damage. If damage is reduced to zero, however, there is no energy gain with Essence Bond. I haven't bothered with Protective Bond, so I don't have an answer to make it work in this case.

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Originally Posted by Winston View Post
You can only have a particular bond on you once.
That is false. Only one effect applies to the target, but multiple casters may each receive the benefit from the same skill on one target.

Winston

Winston

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

Melbourne, Australia

Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterB View Post
That is false. Only one effect applies to the target, but multiple casters may each receive the benefit from the same skill on one target.
That's interesting, I happily stand corrected

Schnellburg

Schnellburg

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

America -5 GMT

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pony Slaystation View Post
I was bored today, and while goofing around, I had a (not so great) idea. I thought that I could have 3 monk heroes, each with 14 protection prayers, using Protective Bond and Essence Bond on me. Protective Bond, at 14 protection prayers, drains 3 energy per hit. Since they are all maintaining it, they each should lose 1 energy each time I am hit. I thought I would be able to counter that by having each of them maintain Essence Bond on me, which would give them 1 energy each time I get hit, balancing it out. I tried going into Tombs, just for fun, and I was surprised that they still lost energy whenever I was hit by an attack. I was taking damage, so Essence Bond should have been triggered. My question is, when multiple people are maintaining Essence Bond, is the energy gain divided amongst them?
Example - 2 people are maintaining Essence Bond... would each person only gain 1 energy every 2 hits?
No, whoever cast Essence bond on you will gain 1 energy every time you are hit except when you are taking Zero damage.

IronSheik

IronSheik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2008

Wolfenstein: Goldrush

Zombies Go Nom Nom [Nom]

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In theory, yes, but remember essence bond you must be taking physical/elemental damage.

A lot of damage in the tome is from chaos/dark damage, which does NOT trigger E-bond.

You also must be taking 0<

Jongal

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2008

I hate to say it, but your idea is not so new. Assasins use it to rush atfh.

I only found a german link, but you can see the build anyway:

http://www.wartower.de/forum/showpos...43&postcount=6 (posted two month ago)

Quaker

Quaker

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Aug 2005

Canada

Brothers Disgruntled

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pony Slaystation View Post
Protective Bond, at 14 protection prayers, drains 3 energy per hit. Since they are all maintaining it, they each should lose 1 energy each time I am hit.
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Quote:
My question is, when multiple people are maintaining Essence Bond, is the energy gain divided amongst them?
No, they will each gain 1 energy.

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IronSheik

IronSheik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2008

Wolfenstein: Goldrush

Zombies Go Nom Nom [Nom]

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Actually ^^^ No, Protective Bond energy loss IS divided if all are casted on the same entity.

So three copies of 3 energy loss per hit would equal 1 energy lost per hit.

If the requirements of essence bond are being filled, the energy loss balances out.

Pony Slaystation

Pony Slaystation

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2008

Cardboard Box

Guilds are irrelevant. This... is...... BUILD WARS!!!

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by IronSheik View Post
In theory, yes, but remember essence bond you must be taking physical/elemental damage.

A lot of damage in the tome is from chaos/dark damage, which does NOT trigger E-bond.
That answered my question. Thanks.