Getting back in to the game: Playing necro, need a hero build.

bugallnot

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2009

Havent finished EOTN yet, actually havent started so this is what is my first priority as far as builds go. I need something that "works by itself" and can provide a backbone strong enough to take on more or less any non hardmode zone (shouldnt be too hard )

While I used to be a lexicon as far as skills and builds goes thats not the case anymore as I can hardly remember which skills does what. Got some balthazar faction so EOTN skills can be unlocked quickly if need be

Doesnt have to be über fast or anything, just needs to be real strong.

tom999

tom999

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2009

House of Lord Darcia [HoLD]

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i find this works well and doesnt need EotN skills

http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:N/Me_SS_Nuker

bugallnot

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by tom999 View Post
i find this works well and doesnt need EotN skills

http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:N/Me_SS_Nuker
Was primarily looking for a 3 heroes + me team build

Elmindreda Farshaw

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2007

Shiverpeak Search and Rescue [Lost]

http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:Team_-_Discordway

bugallnot

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2009

Been looking at that one and sabway, primarily going to play normal mode for now so wouldnt sabway be better?

(And how long in to EOTN do i need to get in order to unlock third necromancer hero?)

What kind of build should I be playing along with the discordway build? Seeing how im a necro myself I figure perhaps even some kind of Searing Flames build would be cool.



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Dawn Angelheart

Dawn Angelheart

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2008

We Bought Plan C On [Ebay]

W/E

you hsould be playing a build that spreads conditions and hexes, to aid in filling the conditions of discord. if your running 3 discord heroes, just run SS nuker yourself. usually does great.

saloking

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2008

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why dont you just run MM unless you dont like to run MM ofcourse :/
you get the third necromancer hero when you go in the path of the asura, i believe?

syphonus

syphonus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2007

The Dirtiest Parts Of My Mind

Phlying Skwirls[PS]

N/

An AP caller is ideal for discord.

bugallnot

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2009

After doing some research i've figured out that I wont be getting a fourth necro till like 3\4'ths in to the EOTN campaign. I'll be doing either discordway or sabway with me as a third necro btw.

So, uintill then. What kind of hero would be reccomended?

Carnivorous Cupcake

Carnivorous Cupcake

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2009

Lolrus League [lol]

A/E

bugallnot


I would recommend a spirit spammer ritualist or a ranged physical (ranger or para).


Spirit spammer will create an additional wall of spirits to soak up the damage while also adding considerable ammount of damage. A physical hero will additionally trigger barbs or mop if you have them equipped but a spirit spammer would probably be better.

bugallnot

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2009

While the spirit spammer is indeed strong this is normal mode. So wouldnt it allso be kindof overkill? Then again I could probably pull 2 groups at a time with a setup such as that

Nitestride

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2009

FL

[AGED]

A/E

bugallnot: Livia isn't too deep into EotN - a bit annoying, but I was able to do the LONG run for the EotN outpost west into the Asura area, and get the Gadd quest line, and then find Gadd and unlock Livia.


Which brings me to my question about this topic:

I'm running a Dervish primary. I now have all 3 Necro heroes, and the skills to support a SABway:

1)
** SS Necro
** =========

Necromancer / Ritualist

Attributes
-----------
Curses 12 + 1 + 1
Channeling Magic 10
Soul Reaping 8 + 1
Restoration Magic 2

Skills
-------
Spiteful Spirit
Barbs
Mark of Pain
Enfeebling Blood
Splinter Weapon
Rip Enchantment
Signet of Lost Souls
Death Pact Signet


2)
** Necro Healer
** ============

Necromancer / Ritualist

Attributes
----------

Soul Reaping 12 + 1 + 1
Restoration Magic 12

Skills
--------

Weapon of Remedy
Weapon of Warding
Mend Body and Soul
Spirit Light
Protective Was Kaolai
Life
Foul Feast
Flesh of My Flesh


3)
** Jagged MM Necro
** ================

Necromancer / Monk

Attributes
-----------

Soul Reaping 9 + 1
Death Magic 12 + 1 + 1
Protection Prayers 9


Skills
-------
Jagged Bones
Animate Shambling Horror
Animate Bone Fiend
Death Nova
Putrid Bile
Protective Spirit
Aegis
Signet of Lost Souls

This may be the ultimate n00b question, but:

Do I need to bring henchmen in addition to these heroes to fill up an 8-person party, or should this be able to be us 4 only?

Xenomortis

Xenomortis

Tea Powered

Join Date: May 2008

UK

N/

Asking for builds is I think, against the rules here. Anyway, since MoP has come up:

The core of the AP-MoP caller is PvE skill free (unless you include the Ebon Sin):
Mark of Pain, Barbs, Rigor Mortis and Assassin's Promise.

Ebon Vanguard Assassin Support is however, an easy PvE skill to get. Simply get to the Eye of the North, take the "Charr Invaders" quest from Mullenix, complete it then do the "Service: Practice, Dummy" quest and you get the skill as a reward.

Filler skills can include Enfeebling Blood, Reckless Haste, Shadow of Fear (not with RH though) or whatever might work until you get the useful PvE skills (You move like a dwarf, By Ural's Hammer, Mindbender etc.).

As for heroes, I tend to bring a Minion Master with Empathic Removal and Prot Spirit, an ER prot Ele and a Paragon. Give a spear to the MM so he'll attack the marked target.
Or you can be unimaginative and use Discord teams.


But to be honest, it doesn't matter much what you run. You'll be going through Normal Mode on your first run, so feel free to experiment. SS builds work and require no PvE skills, they're just not very quick. Very easy to play though. SS doesn't require any specific hero setups to work either as unless you bring Barbs and Mark of Pain, it has no synergy at all.


Spirit spamming has come up, it's strong and easy, but can be a bit slow at times. Apparantly the attack times on the spirits from Signet of Spirits has been fixed (improving the skill), but I haven't tried it lately.

bugallnot

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2009

Yeh, been running with 4 heroes only this far. Tried adding up 4 henchmen aswell but well, theyre quite useless At the moment im just looking forward to the secound half of EOTN where I have unlocked them all

Calista Blackblood

Calista Blackblood

Permanently Banned

Join Date: Oct 2007

Northern Ireland

Nowhere To Run Nowhere To [Hide]

N/

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And Nitestride the answer is take 4 henchmen also.