question about Sabway and Discord way

whos better for HM Vanq? right now im using Discord way.

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what will work better in NM missions/quests

Sabway or discord


thanks

It depends on what prof you run. Physicals (Para, War, Ranger) go best with Sabway, while Caster profs go better with Discordway. (Sin/Derv not mentioned as physicals because of 4 energy regen)

If you're going for speed, Discordway blows away anything else by miles.

Don't know if this is me or not, but Discord was far superior on my War than Sabway ever was. Maybe I just couldn't get it to work right, but I'd classify Sabway as obsolete. Argument should be Discord vs. Arkfenway/spiritway.

from what little experience ive had with them, I would say discord by a long shot.
and i know that alot of the people in my alliance use it for vanqing so i would go with discordway.

I think Discord is so much better. Sabway is good and all but Discord is just much faster and easier.

I tend to use sabway just to get through campaigns just because it doesnt require much to work, but when im going to vanquish i get them modded up for discord, cause its better

Using an Assassin's Promise caller, with "You Move Like a Dwarf!", Ebon Vanguard Assassin Support and "Finish Him!", you never have to worry about changing your Discord build. Just steamroll through anything NM or HM.

Im a mesmer, and im running Sabway. It works perfectly. Ive did my Canthan Vanquisher with Discordway. Now im doing Elonian Vanquisher with Sabway and Sabway is way more stable. In Discord way you almost always die in the 1st 2 groups.

Sabway works even great if you have 2 Sabways in your team. But i changed the builds a bit to my preferences. I will post them here:

Sabway MM:
[Jagged Bones][Animate Bone Minions][Blood of the Master][Putrid Flesh][Extinguish][Protective Spirit][Aegis][Signet of Lost Souls]


Sabway SS:
[Barbs][Enfeebling Blood][Rip Enchantment][Spiteful Spirit][Reckless Haste][Mark of Pain][Signet of Lost Souls][Flesh of My Flesh]


Sabway Restorer:
[Xinrea's Weapon][Splinter Weapon][Mend Body and Soul][Spirit Light][Protective was Kaolai][Life][Signet of Lost Souls][Flesh of My Flesh]

On a warrior, I would say Discord is faster

im assassin, its matter for vanq?

Leg. Vanq + LMON without discord or 'true' Sabway (was a curses nec myself + brought along a MM/real! monk/gwen), so it's possible to do it all without both gimmick builds and not a lot of effort. Your mileage may vary.

i think discord is easier for any build probably support builds but sabway is way easier to manage. your best bet is to get another alliance member or someone else to run with you so you can run sabway heros and discord heros. btw im still working on vanq elona. I have 13 areas left so im open to playing with you. my IGN is Aurora Firenza. Im at 15 max titles and ive used sabway almost exclusively until recently

i have not done NF X:

its the last campaiign i have to finish, thanks for offering.

btw if im in area that can have 8 in party, its matter if im take hench? or i just me and my heroes should go

Sabway is not shut down and faceraped in areas with good/insane hex/condition removal (*glares hatefully at Kourna*).

One stripped AP is enough to pretty well cripple a non-caster AP-caller for a while..

Both are kind of boned(no pun intended) without corpses, Discord less so.


Having used both[0], I find that, where it works, Discordway excels in speed, and sabway is slower but far more robust. Depends on your playstyle.

[0]In the past. I've got a nice balance team that works now.

I beleive Death Blossom spam is much faster as a sin for NM because of the yummy criticals, so sabway would be recommended. you can modify it however you want, maybe involve Strength and Honour or something.

But for HM, the higher level of the creatures reduces your chances for a critical plus their health and armour (i think) are buffed and so the armour ignoring damage would also be favourable. Discord can also be done within casting range and therefore is better for successful pulling of groups and such.

discordway is better for sin

bring asuran scan for hex

I found discord better in general but as someone pointed out when you encounter mobs with hex removal skills you can run into trouble as they shut your attack chain down

So far I found "ether seals" to be the most annoying mobs in this category but also mesmers generally & monks with hex removal too

BTW IME trying to add a cover hex doesnt always work as the AP hex can be removed before you get the cover on - it can be easier to use the cover first, let it get stripped then add AP while there removal skill is still recharging & preferebly another cover on top if you have one on your skill bar

Another thing I noticed recently is that a sin I teamed with running discord seemed to kill things quicker than I did as a monk (obviously this was a subjective obversation on my part & I could be mistaken) - if this observation was correct then either he had a better overall build than my pvxwiki build or alternatively his sin +attribute runes made a difference

i would also say discordway is better, because its faster, but it does have its draw backs like condition/hex removal. but over all i prefer discordway.

Yes, AP removal hurts, but not that much if you bring alternate hexes. My Discord-feed bar is now:

Assassin's Promise
YMLaD!
EVAS
FH!
Signet of Deadly Corruption
Enduring Toxin
Mark of Death
Rebirth

If I know I'm up against hex removal, I'll start with Enduring Toxin and wait for removal, then Mark of Death, then AP. Alternately, if there's only one hex removal in the group, I'll start with AP and cover immediately with Toxin.

If you're an Assassin, you can play so many different builds it's not funny. You can use literally any melee weapon or a spear with great effectiveness, but bring an attack skill that causes a condition (Golden Fang Strike, Wounding Strike, Cruel Spear, Apply Poison, Gash, etc.) and Asuran Scan or AP (if you're just trying to feed). Even if you're against hex removal, you can pump out ridiculous damage with ridiculous party support on Discordway.

Sabway is most stable if you have a minion wall, but against large HM groups you won't have the wall for long and since it has less spike potential you'll be dropping enemies slower.

Also, as Marty said, Arkfenway is pretty hawt. It's a good alternative to Discordway in many cases.