pc 2 oldschool shields

can someone tell me what these two gloom shields are worth please?

1. r11 str, +45 enchanted, -5/20 both mods inherent

2. r9 tac, physical dmg-2 stance ,+44 stance both inherent

both gold and max

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Anyone? I know tactics is not real popular but I thought maybe the first one was worth something

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tbh with so many inscription ones around, I don't really see either of these going for much. R11 Str might have been a bit if it was 45 -2, the -5 mod makes it a bit of a crappy shield.

Maybe 10-15k on either, but I dunno if you'd get that.

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