is it possible to perma without nf?

spartan4595

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2008

E/Me

hi im pretty new to sin and i have all campaigns but nf which has been the biggest pain since i started playing .but anyways i was wondering if its possible to perma without nf. also please dont say go get nf or delete ur sin. thanks alot

Slasher of Darkness

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2008

Lots of places~

D/

I'm not rly sure, cause NF has the 2 key skills, Glyph of Swiftness (I think it's in NF) and Deadly Paradox.

Ccat

Ccat

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

Glyph of Swiftness is in EoTN.

No I don't think it is. Celerity in place of GoS can be done without because it is 25%, but 33% missing might just fail to make ends meet.

Sindo

Sindo

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2008

West Kentshire Pony Club [Pony]

Me/

I think it would work if you used a Celerity and Arcane Echo Shadow Form.

Nox Lightbender

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2009

AoE

Mo/

its completely possible to do it without nf because the 3 skills you need to keep up shadow form are from factions and eye of the north. Plus the main way to kill enemies is with sliver armour which is also factions. Just make sure you have the right equipment e.g 20% enchant staff with +20 energy over all. Should have 62 energy with that and right armour.

Lukyboy

Lukyboy

Elite Guru

Join Date: Nov 2007

The Mirror of Reason [SNOW]

D/A

In theory, yes it is possible
With Glyph of Swiftness and an Essence and 16 Shadow arts and the right equipment
It's not very pratical though, because you need an essence everytime you go out farm stuff, which is gonna cost you quite alot of money

mathiastemplar

mathiastemplar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2008

Denmark

Jade Reapers [JD]

W/

Yes, it is possible.
without NF you can:
Use cons with GoS.
Use cons with Ghostly Haste+Pain/any spirit.
Use cons with Archane Echo.
gl hf.

Ccat

Ccat

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

Honestly with the amount of money you'd be spending on consumables could probably be used to convert to IRL money and buy Nightfall. Just saying.