Perfect

nitx

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2009

chi

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Hi,When plp talk about perfect what does it really say?
Is it a mod or uppgrade or?
thx for a answer from a noob lol.

M @ T

M @ T

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

South of heaven

S E X Y Shinigami[SEXY]

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They are referring to stats on weapons and sheilds;

For weapons:
* Req 9
* 15^50
* Sundering 20/20
* Health +30

For Shields:
* Req 9
* -5/20
* Health +30

It doesn't mean that the mods are the best, for instance there have been oh-so-many threads about Sundering and -5/20 and both are obsolete. But in the market, Sundering and -5/20 sell better and easier.

Hope it helps, Mat.

Wynthyst

Wynthyst

Site Contributor

Join Date: Aug 2006

Gems of Destiny

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It doesn't necessarily mean those specific mods, but should always mean max mods on a req 9 or lower weapon.

Zan Usi Quan

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Brussels - Belgium

Temple of Love

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wynthyst View Post
It doesn't necessarily mean those specific mods, but should always mean max mods on a req 9 or lower weapon.
Indeed it doesn't, but most players refer to those mods when asking for, or selling weapons as "Perfect".

imnotyourmother

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

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The Knitters Guild

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M @ T has it correct. I comes down to what is the fastest way to sell an item. This does not refer to the "APPLICATION" in which a weapon or offhand or shield will be used.

A 55 monk will want a kewl looking sword but not a sundering +30 health.
Nor will a War want a 20% Enchanting with +5 Energy sword.

Pleikki

Pleikki

WTB q8 15^50 Weapons!

Join Date: Nov 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wynthyst View Post
It doesn't necessarily mean those specific mods, but should always mean max mods on a req 9 or lower weapon.
Nah imo it has nothing to with req. as soon as it has Perfect modifiers

nkuvu

nkuvu

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Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pleikki View Post
Nah imo it has nothing to with req. as soon as it has Perfect modifiers
So a 15^50, +30 health, 20/20 sundering weapon would be perfect even if it has a requirement of 13? I disagree with that.

I'm not saying the req 13 weapon wouldn't be usable, but I wouldn't call it "perfect."

BrettM

BrettM

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Join Date: Aug 2008

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All of the previous posts just go to show that if you advertise something as "perfect" then somebody is sure to respond with "lol noob, that's not perfect" because there are so many views on the subject. You're better off to just avoid the word when selling and ignore it when buying. The stats are all that matter.

Konker2020

Konker2020

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2009

Exiled Forcez [Ex]

Basically, everyone is correct because it is based on the viewpoint of each person.

I would consider a perfect weapon a req9 gold weapon with max mods regardless of what they are, generally just avoid the term.

Quaker

Quaker

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Aug 2005

Canada

Brothers Disgruntled

This topic has been discussed many times before. It basically comes down to that the specs given by [email protected] are what most people think "perfect" means. The reality is that, in the beginning, "perfect" meant that all the various mods were max - for example, a req9, max dmg sword with +5 energy and 20% enchant would be "perfect". But, because the stats given by [email protected] were the most common and sought after, those became known as the only "perfect" and that's the way it is now.
The best way to avoid trouble is - if you are buying something, to check what the stats actually are and don't assume anything. If you are selling, don't advertise a item as "perfect" unless it has those stats. Also, if you are selling something, it is actually best not to try to make the weapon perfect before you sell it by adding or changing mods. Most people are really only interested in the skin and may not be interested in the particular mods. If someone is looking to buy a "perfect" weapon, they are just noobs who don't understand that they can make any weapon perfect (or whatever they want) by adding/changing mods themselves.

N E D M

N E D M

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Officer's Club

Gameamp Guides [AMP]

perfect =
+3 -1 vamp mod for melee
+1 -1 zealous mod
+5 -1 vamp mod for bow
+10% furious mod
20%/20% sundering mod
+5 armor pommel/handle/grip
+30 health pommel/handle/grip
+15% when health is over 50% inherent or inscription
+15% versus hexed inherent or inscrip
+20% while hexed inherent or inscrip
+20% while health below 50% inherent or inscrip
+5 energy mod for martial weps
etc etc im sure there is a wiki page somewhere

Stop The Storm

Stop The Storm

Keeping DoA Alive

Join Date: Jan 2007

England

Were In [DoA]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by nkuvu View Post
So a 15^50, +30 health, 20/20 sundering weapon would be perfect even if it has a requirement of 13? I disagree with that.

I'm not saying the req 13 weapon wouldn't be usable, but I wouldn't call it "perfect."
so a rq 13 fellblade with 20/20 +30 15^50 is not a perfect rq 13 fellblade?

Ghost Dog

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

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Originally Posted by Stop The Storm View Post
so a rq 13 fellblade with 20/20 +30 15^50 is not a perfect rq 13 fellblade?
Not when this game was good.

Stop The Storm

Stop The Storm

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Join Date: Jan 2007

England

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dont really understand that comment. if the games so bad, why play it? why come on guildwarsguru?

Konker2020

Konker2020

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2009

Exiled Forcez [Ex]

... and so begins the raging and trolling of disagreement, which is why I said it is all based on each players perspective on the situation. His question has been answered, /closethread please?

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by N E D M View Post
perfect =
+3 -1 vamp mod for melee
+1 -1 zealous mod
+5 -1 vamp mod for bow
+10% furious mod
20%/20% sundering mod
+5 armor pommel/handle/grip
+30 health pommel/handle/grip
+15% when health is over 50% inherent or inscription
+15% versus hexed inherent or inscrip
+20% while hexed inherent or inscrip
+20% while health below 50% inherent or inscrip
+5 energy mod for martial weps
etc etc im sure there is a wiki page somewhere
Hate to be picky, but +3/-1 applies to all melee weapons EXCEPT scythe and hammer, which are +5/-1, like bows.

M @ T

M @ T

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

South of heaven

S E X Y Shinigami[SEXY]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaker View Post
The reality is that, in the beginning, "perfect" meant that all the various mods were max - for example, a req9, max dmg sword with +5 energy and 20% enchant would be "perfect". But, because the stats given by [email protected] were the most common and sought after, those became known as the only "perfect" and that's the way it is now.

The best way to avoid trouble is - if you are buying something, to check what the stats actually are and don't assume anything. If you are selling, don't advertise a item as "perfect" unless it has those stats.

Also, if you are selling something, it is actually best not to try to make the weapon perfect before you sell it by adding or changing mods. Most people are really only interested in the skin and may not be interested in the particular mods. If someone is looking to buy a "perfect" weapon, they are just noobs who don't understand that they can make any weapon perfect (or whatever they want) by adding/changing mods themselves.
Best advice for this thread in my opinion.

PS. Paragraphs make it easier to read

Darcy

Darcy

Never Too Old

Join Date: Jul 2006

Rhode Island where there are no GW contests

Order of First

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In GW, "perfect" has no real meaning. It is used by sellers and owners to describe a wide variety of weapon setups. It is used the same way you would use "cool".

Shadowhaze

Shadowhaze

Nothing, tra la la?

Join Date: Oct 2007

I always think of "perfect" in the terms M @ T stated. I'd hazard a guess and say a lot (if not most) people think of it it terms of this these days.

I've seen things advertised many ways though (ex - perfect r12 this, perfect green that). It all depends on what a person deems perfect.

And yes, check the stats of an item that's being advertised as perfect. That is a given.

Snograt

Snograt

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Join Date: Jan 2006

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[GURU]GW [wiki]GW2

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"Perfect" means "I want a lot of money for this."

OoO Rift OoO

OoO Rift OoO

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snograt View Post
"Perfect" means "I want a lot of money for this."
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