05 Sep 2009 at 16:12 - 2
2 x sliver sin
6x runner sin
drop 500g on 2 lvl to pay for BU.
(Death's Charge all U can and use aura to cover U)
9 frogs in 20 runs...non for me
05 Sep 2009 at 16:54 - 3
I prefer Shadow Refuge over Shadow Sanctuary. It has a faster recharge in case there are more incubi than you expected.
06 Sep 2009 at 00:55 - 4
http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:Team...ts_Manly_Spike
Not sure if it's the one you were after =P
10 Sep 2009 at 21:14 - 5
its really not that hard to do...all you have to do is look at the team set up you have 2 runners 6 slivers on lvl 2 u run right or left depending on the spawns of incubi go the route with least amount avoid big mobs and run through cover enchant is a must get to boss #1 sliver go to Kahbus or w/e his name is grab the frogs and sliver him and the frogs till you get the chest to pop. you could have just went to gadd's and found a team looking for 1 more and gone with to learn..
11 Sep 2009 at 04:16 - 6
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Originally Posted by Ġ ō Đ¹
its really not that hard to do...all you have to do is look at the team set up you have 2 runners 6 slivers on lvl 2 u run right or left depending on the spawns of incubi go the route with least amount avoid big mobs and run through cover enchant is a must get to boss #1 sliver go to Kahbus or w/e his name is grab the frogs and sliver him and the frogs till you get the chest to pop. you could have just went to gadd's and found a team looking for 1 more and gone with to learn..
Because Pugs love learners.
I'm wondering if theres a guide for the 2 man, as I'm far more interested in doing it with just one mate rather than several randoms.
11 Sep 2009 at 06:45 - 7
Well, it's just the same. But then you only have 1 runner and 1 sliver. Same builds, nothing changes. It's just hard to get to res shrine now, because incubus only have one person to follow.
11 Sep 2009 at 07:38 - 8
1. you take a runner build with iau
2. you die at second lvl
3. you let DD (sliver) do all the work
4. open chest
5. repeat
11 Sep 2009 at 20:13 - 11
Where do pugs meet and find parties for this SC?
11 Sep 2009 at 22:41 - 12
I would imagine it starts in Gadd's Encampment. The is no other way to access it.
12 Sep 2009 at 04:34 - 13
correcto mundo marty

it really is an easy SC i run people without a partner easily so with 5-8 sins its a cakewalk
12 Sep 2009 at 08:53 - 16
the pugs are pure fail, they agro all incubi and all die instantly, 2 ppl is better imho. it's also faster. I can do lvl 2 in 10 mins, includes bringing the Runnees to the boss ress shrine, wich is the hardest part of the dungeon.
12 Sep 2009 at 14:50 - 17
i dont see how pugs can hardly fail with 5 permas+
14 Sep 2009 at 22:16 - 18
sometimes they do fail but all groups fail everyonce in awhile but all pugs i have gone with made it w/o a problem. i mean you get the occasional party wipe the first time but after we made it
18 Sep 2009 at 04:56 - 19
ARe frogs rarer than VS's in terms of doing a vsf?
18 Sep 2009 at 06:53 - 20
It'd be hard to give a definate answer. Rarity depends on drop rate. To get a worthwhile drop rate, you need a LOT of trials. For something worthwhile, you'd need probably 100-1000 successful runs for each. Since thats basically impossible to do by one person, information you go by would be unreliable at best.
19 Sep 2009 at 02:43 - 21
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Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade
It'd be hard to give a definate answer. Rarity depends on drop rate. To get a worthwhile drop rate, you need a LOT of trials. For something worthwhile, you'd need probably 100-1000 successful runs for each. Since thats basically impossible to do by one person, information you go by would be unreliable at best.
Oooh ooh pick me!
Having done pretty much 50-100 VS farms & over 500 frog runs, I can assure you that Voltaic Spears are the rarer drop of the two. However, getting an r13 Fast Casting or r12 Spawning Power Frog Scepter (50k or less) isn't the same as getting an r13 Voltaic Spear (100k+)...
tl;dr - Frog Scepters drop more often than Voltaic Spears, but aren't always worth more.